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  • Some of them have like nine tabs. It's too much. Imo, it would be better if it was just their main outfit from each volume, as those are what most people care about. For example, Ruby and Blake would just have their first outfits and their current ones. Yang and Weiss would have three tabs because of their V4 and V6 oufit changes and additions. 

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    • The profile boxes themselves need a major trim imo. We already have relationship tabs, why do we need their relationships/affiliations in the profile box?

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    • We can’t just not show the alternate outfits, tho.

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    • ^I agree, unless there was a way to make an "alternate outfit" section with a horizontal "profile" box(similar, not same) for them that's auto-hidden like the transcript I don't see a better way to do it.

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    • Arkantos95 wrote: The profile boxes themselves need a major trim imo. We already have relationship tabs, why do we need their relationships/affiliations in the profile box?

      I do like that section for quick searches though.

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    • Glitchee123z wrote: We can’t just not show the alternate outfits, tho.

      There could simply put a section for characters' outfits in the image gallery.

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    • That seems like one good idea.

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    • The image gallery quite literally exists so that we do not need to clutter the infobox with every damn outfit a character has ever worn. 

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    • I seem to recall this discussion being done before.

      I agree that the outfit tabs have gotten too cluttered. In my opinion those tabs should be reserved for their main outfits for each volume. And the one time outfits(like Ruby's Slayer outfit), uniforms, and sleepwear, should either be on their own page tab or moved to their own section in their respective image galleries. And disguises should only be included in the infobox if there is a particular significance to them, like Maria's Grimm Reaper persona.

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    • I like a good compromise, yes.

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    • I still feel it needs to be either the top grouping within the gallery, or a box in a hidden section above "appearance" on the main character page.

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    • Bumping this because it's still relevant. Seriously, this is just ridiculous:
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    • I'm amazed that no one on the Wiki Staff is even answering this issue.

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    • They don't show up for stuff like this until someone talks shit about them.

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    • Then how about that time Ved showed up to my wall to settle a dispute, even though nobody shittalked him?

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    • Speaking of pictures in templates...Should we add pictures of how characters are portrayed in games, 2D-pictures and comics as well?

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    • No.

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    • No.

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    • if anything, placing a good portrait from that media above the rest of that gallery should be more than enough.

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    • I was wondering if we could copy the format of the galleries of the Steven universe wiki, their galleries include all their alternate outfits, forms and even their sprites from their games and other media.  I think its pretty neat.

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    • Bumping this once again because it's important. Half of RWBY will be sitting at nine tabs once they reveal the new designs for the Atlas arc. Eight tabs is also extremely excessive. 
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    • Don't forget Cinder, who's sitting at 10, most of which were onscreen for less than 10 seconds.

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    • Am I the only wrong who finds nothing wrong with the tabs? I mean i’m not saying we should keep them, just as long as we actually show them.

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    • Glitchee123z wrote: Am I the only wrong who finds nothing wrong with the tabs? I mean i’m not saying we should keep them, just as long as we actually show them.

      I've been arguing for that the whole time.

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    • 73.Anon.52 wrote:

      Glitchee123z wrote: Am I the only wrong who finds nothing wrong with the tabs? I mean i’m not saying we should keep them, just as long as we actually show them.

      I've been arguing for that the whole time.

      It clutters an already overcrowded infobox and just looks unprofessional.

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    • I'm not talking about leaving it in the same info box, I've been talking about making a new one near the appearance section solely dedicated to that, which is auto-hidden. making a total of 0 tabs in the main infobox, which then just shows "current", to which point I just get pushback "that's what the gallery's for".

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    • Because that's literally what the image gallery is for. The pages are already bloated to hell and back anyway.

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    • which is why I'm saying leave it as Hidden content, interested in appearance?;

      1. *click to show section*

      2. Outfit/Visuals, *click to show*

      3. *reads appearance, want's visual*

      4. *Clicks to see Visual*

      Everyone wins, we get to see less, people searching get to see an example of each outfit without needing to see EVERY image.

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    • I'm kinda neutral about this. Every wikia format varies. If you stopped by the Resident Evil, you'd see that the charbox for Chris Redfield has TWENTY "outfits" or "appearance" tabs as per game or media in the franchise, lol.

      If it looks ugly here see if a redsign can be managed.

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    • Yeah, and that template looks like absolute shit.

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    • If need be, I think 73's idea has merit. Kinda like what they do on the Jojo Wiki https://jojo.fandom.com/wiki/Dio_Brando#Part%201

      We could have one Tab for the "Major Outfits" as in Their Volume's 1-3, 4-6 and 7- outfits, One for their secondary outfits like Weiss' Snowpea or Blake's Infiltrator, and One for the minor ones like all of Cinder's disguises and the prom dresses.

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    • Somebody already removed the alt outfits.

      How dare you. >:O

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    • They were pointless and just cluttering up the infobox. The image gallery exists for a reason.

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    • it's still bad form without a consensus being reached while the topic is under discussion.

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    • Exactly, don’t do that.

      Edit: Plus, you didn’t even include the infobox images,

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    • 73.Anon.52 wrote:
      it's still bad form without a consensus being reached while the topic is under discussion.

      Because not every fucking decision on this site requires 15 levels of fucking bureaucracy in order to go through.

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    • I don’t know why you guys are acting like I’m the one who did it when only an admin or someone on the staff can even change that to begin with. Do not accuse me of shit I didn’t do.

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    • Arkantos95 wrote:

      73.Anon.52 wrote:
      it's still bad form without a consensus being reached while the topic is under discussion.

      Because not every fucking decision on this site requires 15 levels of fucking bureaucracy in order to go through.

      I see no-admin notification of a policy change or decision being reached, they don't need to clear it, but a heads up would be nice.


      I never said you did it Sky, I said it was bad form.

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    • Alright, guys, who was the one who removed the infobox images?

      And didn’t put them in the gallery? (As far as i’ve seen)

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    • One of the admins, Minomelo, was the one who did the image cutbacks.

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    • Thank you.

      Now excuse me while I contact him.

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    • Any luck getting answers? Just discovered this was an issue, & am honestly a little pissed, because it looks like there were some good ideas being thrown around how to cut down on space, but nope, GET RID OF EVERYTHING.

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    • The official decision was as follows:

      The infoboxes were getting overloaded and by the time the series ended the list of clothing tabs would probably be longer than the rest of the infobox. Descriptions are still written out, but images are left for just the outfits they spend a good chunk of time in during a character arc that aren't situational, like school uniforms.

      The infoboxes are meant to be quick overviews of the character as a whole, emphasis on quick and overviews. Listing every single outfit they've worn in it is not quick, nor is it an overview.

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    • As does listing their entire family tree, all affiliations both former and current, etc despite there literally being tabs for all of these things.

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    • And so is cluttering up the gallery with an unnecessarily high amount of photos.

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    • Glitchee123z wrote:
      And so is cluttering up the gallery with an unnecessarily high amount of photos.

      I don't think you know what the word gallery means.

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    • Seriously, there’s no need to add a screenshot for every time someone or something is onscreen.

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    • Glitchee123z wrote:
      Seriously, there’s no need to add a screenshot for every time someone or something is onscreen.

      Look on the bright side, it was worse back in Volume 1. I know since I took the screenshots back when RT's website wasn't weird with how they handle videos.

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    • Still though, there’s a bit too many screenshots.

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    • We actually don't take a screenshot of someone every single time they appear on screen, believe it or not.

      The screenshots that get taken for an episode's image gallery page (which then get distributed to their proper galleries as well) tend to be taken to

      • Basically summarize what happened that episode
      • Have at least one or two screenshots of significant characters with minor appearances in the episode, just so it can be noted on that character's gallery page that they were present in the episode
      • Have screenshots of noteworthy things

      It's just that an episode that has a fight scene, or even sometimes a mere action scene, has a tendency to have more screenshots simply because so much more happens within a short amount of time. A scene where characters just stand around talking has much fewer screenshots taken, with the decision behind those screenshots being basically bullet points throughout the conversation.

      For example, the conversation in Dead End, after the episode cuts to JNR having been told about Salem and Ozma. Here are literally all of the screenshots of that conversation scene:

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    • SYUTK probably had more in his episode summaries than the galleries had tbh

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    • Sorry I replied so late to this topic, but isn't it possible to take those existing shots of the characters in their various outfits & find a way to include them throughout the Appearance section as they're mentioned, maybe one picture on one side & one on the other, or put them side-by-side or in just a big slideshow gallery if need be? It'd be far easier on visitors to find specific looks than scrolling through all the galleries for specific episodes, & it won't be as upsetting to longtime users who liked how these pages were formatted already for ease of access to all their outfits.

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    • That's actually the idea some have brought up. We are an information sharing site, so adding outfits is a good idea. I tried it but the images messed up the entire page...

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    • Is the problem squeezing the text description between images & the infobox taking up a third of the page until it looks like canned letter sardines, or is it actually something complicated code-wise that won't let them be seen for whatever reason, if not worse?

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    • It's "people have lives outside the wiki and it takes time" ...and the sardines thing. I mean, people are free to edit and help out...as long as they don't burn the wiki down.

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    • Hmmm... Duly noted, then. Already broke my "Don't come back to the Wikia scene" vow with this, & hey, the Color Naming Rule page needs a major update anyways. Who knows, I might even work with the bureaucracy to create another Allusions page. Still, like you said, lives need living, so hopefully that won't take too much time.

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    • EmBELLEm wrote: … as long as they don't burn the wiki down.

      aww... *puts down welding torch*

      CarusELumen wrote:

      Hmmm... Duly noted, then... & hey, the Color Naming Rule page needs a major update anyways. Who knows, I might even work with the bureaucracy to create another Allusions page...

      Major update? how so? did we get new rules?

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    • I'm guessing just adding characters. The page hasn't been touched since Volume 4/5. It still doesn't have characters from V5 like Leo and Vernal and characters from V6 like Maria, Cordovin and Terra.

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    • is that even necessary though? I thought we were only doing new characters if they fundamentally changed the understanding of CNR there.

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    • What? The CNR page is a list of RWBY character names and how their names fit the criteria. And it features characters up to Volume 4. Why would it be unnecessary to add characters from V5 and V6?

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    • nvm, been awhile since I looked at it.

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    • I've suggested that we could probably

      • Have an image gallery header at the end of the Appearance section, which has a single screenshot of each outfit. This would remedy the issue of in-line images squishing the text like a can of sardines. There'd still be images, they'd just be organized into a small gallery.
      • Mention which episodes/volumes an outfit was worn in at the end of its description, so that people can more easily track down additional screenshots of that outfit if they want to.

      As for an Allusions page, we describe characters' allusions on their Behind the Scenes pages already. The Behind the Scenes pages are set up to cover multiple behind the scenes and production-related info to take a load off the Trivia sections.

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    • True, but you could say the same thing about the Color Naming Rule page describing each character's meaning when that's also in their Trivia, right? It's not redundancy, it's just a simpler way to find what you're looking for without going from page to page looking for answers, otherwise there's no point in Weapons or the descriptions of each Semblance or any of that. Not the same level of importance, I realize - even the CNR is officially stated by Monty himself - though same logic that I hope could be understood in the reasoning for why I personally think it would be a good idea to have here.

      Anyways, I like both those ideas about the outfits, personally, & I'm working on the CNR descriptions now. Think there would be anything there to run by staff first if it's all only sticking to the facts & maybe even sourced from where they were found?

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