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  • I swear, if it is ever revealed that the dark-haired young farm boy with freckles and yellow-green eyes is actually a girl in disguise and is actually the Spring Maiden, I'll scream.

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    • I actually thought similar, to be honest.

      Though, my thoughts were more like "I swear, if this kid turns out to somehow be the Spring Maiden..."

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    • Wut in da name of wut?

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    • My first thought was "here comes Ruby's future Love Interest".

      I thought that was dumb, but then that theory appears.......

      .......that said, if the powers require the target to be biologically female, at least from birth, the kid does have a chance to be the Spring Maiden. Would be interesting, if only to finally see a TG character in this show.

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    • SomeoneYouUsedToKnow wrote:
      My first thought was "here comes Ruby's future Love Interest".

      I thought that was dumb, but then that theory appears.......

      .......that said, if the powers require the target to be biologically female, at least from birth, the kid does have a chance to be the Spring Maiden. Would be interesting, if only to finally see a TG character in this show.

      ... He's, like.. 10.

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    • ChishioKunrin wrote:

      ... He's, like.. 10.

      .....Wait, we know his age already?

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    • SomeoneYouUsedToKnow wrote:
      ChishioKunrin wrote:

      ... He's, like.. 10.

      .....Wait, we know his age already?

      No. The impression I get of his age is that he's a kid who seems a little young to date Ruby. The thought of him being "Ruby's future love interest" made me feel all weird inside.

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    • Oh. He looks around 14 to me. More acceptable.

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    • Can we all agree that he is of some importance to the story in the near future?

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    • I don't know if he will serve some purpose to the plot of Volume 4, but we shall soon see. Preferably within the next 4 episodes.

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    • I feel like I should point this out: judging from the way he woke up like he had just had a nightmare, I think he saw the meeting of Salem and her Council in his dream. Meaning he know exactly what their next move is.

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    • Is this what we're going to call his character page?

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    • I do wonder... what was the point of that sequence other than to show off the beautiful animation of Maya? The agriculture montage could be showing his simple life and..............wait a minute... is he the "simple soul" Ozpin was talking about, and not Ruby? Holy shit I did not put it together until I laid it all out.

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    • WC-83 wrote:
      ...........wait a minute... is he the "simple soul" Ozpin was talking about, and not Ruby? Holy shit I did not put it together until I laid it all out.

      ....That would feel like BS. Especially given that we already have Jaune if Simple Soul=Average Farm Joe.

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    • I felt like the sequence of the young boy transitioning to RNJR was simply to show off the new animation (look how pretty this is, check out our facial expressions, ooh look water) and to set the scene of where RNJR are; he was close enough to hear the Geist when Ruby pissed it off judging by the scene transition, so we got the idea that they were fighting a Grimm near a village. It was a simple farm, not highly technological, so it appeared to be outside the protection of a Kingdom. And it was early morning, so we know that RNJR were specifically looking for the Grimm instead of stumbling upon it halfway through the day (get the 'chores' out of the way early so you can move on to other things and all that).

      It' a common trope in visual media to show something not actually related to the main story in order to set the scene nicely.

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    • Perhaps he is either:

      A) Ozpin reincarnated (think Doctor Who's regeneration) but without his memories. Over the course of the volume, he will regain his memories, grow up and turn into a younger and more wise Oz.

      B) A decendant of The Wizard that gave the Maidens their original powers and is simply waiting for a new generation of women ,cough-RWBY-cough, to become Maidens 2.0

      C) the Spring Maiden as a TG

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    • SpiritedDreaming wrote:

      It's a common trope in visual media to show something not actually related to the main story in order to set the scene nicely.

      The problem is, there's this thing called Law of Conservation of Detail. If something appears, if something is mentioned, it must surely have some importance.

      Thus, if we were shown this random kid, it must have some importance. It wasn't the same as showing people walking on the street, or talking in a park, which are just setting the scene.

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    • Maybe hes the new P for JNPR. Just a thought.

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    • bookmarking atm

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    • SomeoneYouUsedToKnow wrote:
      SpiritedDreaming wrote:

      It's a common trope in visual media to show something not actually related to the main story in order to set the scene nicely.

      The problem is, there's this thing called Law of Conservation of Detail. If something appears, if something is mentioned, it must surely have some importance.

      Thus, if we were shown this random kid, it must have some importance. It wasn't the same as showing people walking on the street, or talking in a park, which are just setting the scene.

      ^^^ Exactly. Plus, when it comes to 3D animation, they had to take the time to build, texture, and rig everything that we saw in that scene. He has a special design, especially his eyes, such pretty eyes.

      Upon first watch, I took it more as a "Hey, meet this kid, he'll be important later, okay let's go see what RNJR's doing." It's a method to make his introduction much less jarring. Instead of flinging him at us at the moment that he becomes important or meets the protagonists, they ease us into it by having us meet him during his normal everyday life when he's not being quite so important. Personally, I think it's a good writing strategy.

      But yeah, what gave me that impression was that I was sitting there through the whole scene like "Okay, so is something gonna happen with this kid? Are we gonna find out who he is? Why're we focusing on him? And now we're at RNJR. Okay, guess he'll be important later and that was just introducing us to him."

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    • You know who else has pretty amazing eyes and is a background character? Radioactive Girl.

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    • ChishioKunrin wrote:

      Upon first watch, I took it more as a "Hey, meet this kid, he'll be important later, okay let's go see what RNJR's doing."

      Fully agreed; we may not even learn who he/she is and their importance to the plot until the end of the volume. I just hope that he doesn't turn into Team RNJR's Chibi-Usa - Constantly being kidnapped and targetted by the League of Evil so that they can save the day.

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    • SpiritedDreaming wrote:
      You know who else has pretty amazing eyes and is a background character? Radioactive Girl.

      But she didn't have 1min 20secs focused just on her and a bit of her life. Plus this kid has more than just cool eyes, he also a pretty dam cool handkerchief or scarf or whatever is tucked into his pocket.

      This kid has some importance. You don't waste time making such a unique looking character (and the environment), focusing on them (in the first episode of a new volume I might add) just to never use it again.

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    • Ok, in retrospect, his eyes are just hazel, I have them and there's nothing really special about them, (though a girl in my class said they were sexy.....in elementary school....yeah... >.>). It's just that we're all so used to seeng solid colored eyes in anime that when we see an actual honest to god hazel iris, people assume it means something.

      That said, he is most certainly important, as he possesses the uncanny ability of tapping into Salem's phone line like the good NSA agent he is. I just wonder when he'll take center stage.

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    • Those dont look Hazel to me. Isnt Hazel supposed to be like brown-greenish. His look more green-yellow.

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    • Ember Celica wrote:
      Those dont look Hazel to me. Isnt Hazel supposed to be like brown-greenish. His look more green-yellow.

      It is supposed to be brown-greenish. That is to say, the iris is green except for the shit brown near the pupil (my eyes are like that, they're dark green on the outside but yellowish brown on the inside, almost like my iris has fat cells). His eyes are definately hazel colored. His eyes are stated to be hazel on the minor characters page.

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    • Not everything on the wiki is 100% correct. My eyes are like that too but mine are just a straight green-yellow. But it doesnt really matter. As long as they are cool looking then they are probably important. xD

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    • Ember Celica wrote:
      Those dont look Hazel to me. Isnt Hazel supposed to be like brown-greenish. His look more green-yellow.

      It's not exclusively brown-green. It can be yellow, light brown, amber, gold....the green part itself can be various shades of green.

      Heck, it can even be other colors, like blue. Or even the dominant color can be the contrary ("Green-Yellow" instead of "Yellow-Green"). What makes Hazel eyes Hazel it's mostly it's characteristics, not just the colors.

      WC: His eyes are stated to be hazel on the minor characters page.

      I was the one who wrote that.....just saying.

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    • .... *Scoots in with a fun fact* When there's a second color around the pupils, that is called central heterochromia.

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    • ChishioKunrin wrote:
      .... *Scoots in with a fun fact* When there's a second color around the pupils, that is called central heterochromia.

      I'm a FREEEEAAAAKKKK!!!! 

      lol jk

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    • WC-83 wrote:
      ChishioKunrin wrote:
      .... *Scoots in with a fun fact* When there's a second color around the pupils, that is called central heterochromia.
      I'm a FREEEEAAAAKKKK!!!! 

      lol jk

      You could say you were a Lusus Naturae.

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      Looks like this character could be female. It's entirely possible for a female to have a more masculine voice. It could be a young female, or simply someone who (surprise) doesn't have noticable boobs. I think the "disguised spring maiden/ozpin" theories are a bit far-fetched.

      It should also be noted that the side of his/her green compost thing has a golden crown symbol with 5 points, and the letters "CK". Someone joked that it's "compost king" from the Chibi episode where JNPR plays the farming game, but I think it could be the initials of a person or business. The only person that comes to mind that could have a last name beginning with K is Sienna Khan, if that spelling is somehow correct. 

      Anyone else have an idea of what the initials could be?

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    • MiniDaggers wrote:
      WC-83 wrote:
      I'm a FREEEEAAAAKKKK!!!! 

      lol jk

      You could say you were a Lusus Naturae.

      Damn, beat me by 10 minutes.

      CURSE YOU NOTIFICATIONS THAT ONLY SHOW UP WHEN YOU CLICK THE ICON!

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    • XXMintshadeXx wrote:
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      Looks like this character could be female. It's entirely possible for a female to have a more masculine voice. It could be a young female, or simply someone who (surprise) doesn't have noticable boobs. I think the "disguised spring maiden/ozpin" theories are a bit far-fetched.

      Eh.. maybe... Though, it sorta looks to me like the model and the suspenders are just acting weird. We'll probably figure things out more if/when they appear again.

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    • Ember Celica wrote: Maybe hes the new P for JNPR. Just a thought.

      Watch his name be Pepper, or something.

      That's one of three thoughts I have about this kid. The other two are A) He is related to Ozpin in some way. Either by blood, or by... something else... I mean, I can see similarities; messy hair, covered up neck (funny when you realize we've never seen Ozpin's neck before...), not to mention that he has Hazel eyes, which are often mistaken for brown eyes (Ozpin's eye color). I have other thoughts about how this could be, but most are too complex for a discussion thread. B) He is related to the current spring Maiden. I HIGHLY doubt that he's the Spring Maiden in disguise; the voice just doesn't fit. Perhaps he's her protector, or brother, or something.

      We're all just speculating here.

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    • ......Now that I think about it, why does everyone think he's got something to do with Ozpin again?

      I personally think Farmboy is related to the Wizard from the Maiden tale. The Wizard lived alone in the middle of nowhere, and so does this kid. Now, whether Ozpin is also related to the Wizard is something else.

      So, I came up with 3 ideas:

      1-Farmboi is a Reincarnation of the wizard, having what remains of the Wizard's unimaginable power and possibly his memories. This could also explain why he lives by himself in a farm despite being so seemingly young.

      2-Farmboi is a Descendant of the Wizard, having his power(s) thanks to super-powerful genetics. He may or may not be aware of said powers.

      3-A slightly more silly one: The Compost King is the Wizard himself. Yes, the Wizard wasn't an old man, he was a kid all along. Time and alterations to the tales simply made the modern version of the Maidens's tale say he was an old man. (As for how he remains so young......the Wizard has unimaginable power, no?)

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    • SomeoneYouUsedToKnow wrote:

      ......Now that I think about it, why does everyone think he's got something to do with Ozpin again?

      I personally think Farmboy is related to the Wizard from the Maiden tale.

      You answered your own question; people think Ozpin is the wizard. Plus, when asked if Ozpin was alive, Shannon said "it's complicated".

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    • My instant reaction was "OMG, green eyes, if this is an adorable Pyrrha relative I'll cry".

      But the Ozpin/Wizard theories seem much more likely to me.

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    • Another theory here is that the kid can be Ozpin... Okay, that sound dumb when you said it that way, but hear me out : 

      We know Ozpin's power is time-related, as some member of the cast said his cane is used to store time, also, in his fight scene with Cinder, we can clearly see him using time to speed up his attack/defense. So, there are two possible scenarios with this theory : 

      - Ozpin used all his time to fight and/or escape and is back at being a kid

      - He used his time to become a kid again, and run away unnoticed but cannot age back or use his power because Qrow went away with his cane (and thus his time)

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    • Once you add time-travel into the loop, almost anything could happen. What if the boy is Young Ozpin and, when he gets caught up in a fight between Team RNJR and Tyrian (and his hired mercs), he insinctively triggers his Semblance and ends up in the pre-Great War past? Then, we suddenly perceive that everything Ozpin did, somehow having an unnatural idea of what future events would hold, was actually him acting in line with events that he already knew would happen. However, his ability to 'predict' the future was only as good as Team RNJR and Qrow's own knowledge of events and, sometimes, it led him seriously astray.

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    • Kaptainbradukk wrote:

      - Ozpin used all his time to fight and/or escape and is back at being a kid

      - He used his time to become a kid again, and run away unnoticed but cannot age back or use his power because Qrow went away with his cane (and thus his time)

      -Because speeding yourself up definitely will make you suffer age regression. (Srcsm)

      -Problem: This means he also changed his eye color, hair color, skin color, and gained freckles, when he became a kid. Using time to perform age regression cannot cause that.

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    • The hair colour and freckles are easily explained away; something that is common with children and freckles is that as they grow older the freckles fade and blend with the rest of the skin (or, it's a common thing here in Australia, as I know plenty of people who have done that), and hair turns grey with age. 

      However, the 'reversing age' thing in regards to 'using the time and speeding it up' makes no sense, and unless old Ozpin wears contacts, he's not gonna be able to change his eye colour. I guess a fake tan could change his skin colour though?

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    • Yeah, time control is a hell of a beach to explain rationnaly.

      For the age regression, maybe he ran out of time in his cane and had to use his own time in order to escape ? And I am not saying that speeding himself up was what rejunevated him. I see time as an ammunition of some sort, something he can stack through the years in his own body, his cane... When he heeds it, he use the time he stacked to speed himself up, and with that he consume time. In his fight with Cinder, he may have ran out of time in his cane and had to use the one stacked in his own body in order to escape. Consuming that time, he went back to being a kid. You understand my point ?

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    • No. Consuming time would mean he has less time to live, thereby making him older. To grow younger he would have to add time to his lifespan, not remove time. He can't simply remove the time he has lived, unless he also removes the memories that go along with said time which would defeat the purpose of making himself younger, as he would have no idea what is going on. He'd be a young man from a bygone era suddenly thrust into the modern world with no idea on how he got there or why anything is happening.

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    • Kaptainbradukk wrote:

      For the age regression, maybe he ran out of time in his cane and had to use his own time in order to escape ?

      It still does not explain how he would go back in age.

      Look, speeding yourself up with time is not the same as speeding yourself up normally. Time is relative, and the faster you go the less it affects you, theorically.....but, when you use time to speed yourself up, you are not actually moving faster.

      Instead, you are simply slowing down everything around you, but yourself. This means you would age quicker in normal time, because for the duration, you would be aging, say, at a rate of 4 minutes per every 1 minute, when everyone else still has the normal 1:1 ratio, because you age at normal rate while everything, and their aging with them, is slowed.

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    • Spirited : That's one valid way of seeing it, but I only consider his body as a time stacking device. Considering that, in RWBY, soul have an important place as the definition of the individual, his personality/memory may not be affected by the rejunevation. 

      Alos, time consumption can work in both of our approach. For you, he grow older as he uses it, and in mine that's the contrary. My explanation could explain the whole rejunevation thing under two conditions : 

      - Time stacking is his semblance 

      - His soul contains his memory and personality 

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    • I got teh feeling that was Cinder's kinfolk. Sister or brother. And I bet she keeps them out of the public eye so no one will think she has anyone she cares about. Or in her eye(s), so no one thinks she has a weakness. I just got that feeling when they switched scenes from her to the kid.

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    • SomeoneYouUsedToKnow wrote:
      Kaptainbradukk wrote:

      For the age regression, maybe he ran out of time in his cane and had to use his own time in order to escape ?

      It still does not explain how he would go back in age.

      Look, speeding yourself up with time is not the same as speeding yourself up normally. Time is relative, and the faster you go the less it affects you, theorically.....but, when you use time to speed yourself up, you are not actually moving faster.

      Instead, you are simply slowing down everything around you, but yourself. This means you would age quicker in normal time, because for the duration, you would be aging, say, at a rate of 4 minutes per every 1 minute, when everyone else still has the normal 1:1 ratio, because you age at normal rate while everything, and their aging with them, is slowed.

      That's where I have trouble explaining it correctly. I consider his semblance to be stacking time, which means that, as he grows older, he can "absorb", in a way , the time he spend in the world, and deliver it when needed.

      From what we've heard, Ozpin have bee alive for very long : his name is not a colour, which means he was born before the Great War, which was 80-100 years before. That's because he stock the time he spend, and then delivers it. The directors have stated that his cane is used to stack time, but I am making the asumption that his body can be used also, as he ages through the years. By using the time he have spent in this world, he can speed up like he does in the Cinder fight. But, as he uses his body's age, the more he uses it, the less time his body "stack", which means he rejunevate. 

      Grimmdamnit, I hate explaining time-based powers, that's incredibly messy. Hope it's clearer. And again, that's just my little theory.

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    • He/she is actually.....

      [wait for it]

      THE COMPOST KING!

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    • Whoever it was, he had a psychic connection with someone at the meeting of the League of Evil and witnessed the meeting in a dream; that's the only interpretation at the snap cut between the scenes that makes sense to me.

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    • BenRG wrote:
      Whoever it was, he had a psychic connection with someone at the meeting of the League of Evil and witnessed the meeting in a dream; that's the only interpretation at the snap cut between the scenes that makes sense to me.

      Kudos for calling them "League of Evil". Watt is Lex and Tyrian is Joker. Salem is Banshee and Hazel is Solomon Grundy.

      I also agree there's a link with Cinder to that he/she kid.

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    • Kaptainbradukk wrote:

      Grimmdamnit, I hate explaining time-based powers, that's incredibly messy. Hope it's clearer. And again, that's just my little theory.

      Well, it wasn't. Your idea of how time would "work" in this case makes no sense, at all, and rather defies the more conventional ways time works in fiction. Time flows, it does not "stack", and the way you "explain" it doesn't really make the idea make sense, even less does it explain how would such thing rejuvenate him to childhood.

      The closest is that Ozpin supposedly stores (not stacks) time in his cane. But that can be interpreted differently: That, basically, he's making the cane age in his place. And as proven by Jaune's decades-old family sword, even old weapons can remain effective for a damn long time. But that's it.

      And some of your arguments can be confronted with Occam's Razor:

      1-How did Ozpin live for 80+ years? Simple: Aura. Aura doesn't heal, but rather improves the body's natural recovery so it heals faster. With a powerful-enough Aura, this means one would also age more slowly, or more precisely, their body would decay over time more slowly. As we age, we get weaker, but Aura slows it down, preserving youth for longer. And, we know from the WoR that Aura can make one "more than just a man", while showing Ozpin.

      2-How did he sped up when fighting Cinder? Not by spending any stacked time or anything. He simply used Time Dilatation, his power if not Semblance. If you make things move slower in time around you, to others it's the same as you moving faster.

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    • SomeoneYouUsedToKnow wrote:
      Kaptainbradukk wrote:

      Grimmdamnit, I hate explaining time-based powers, that's incredibly messy. Hope it's clearer. And again, that's just my little theory.

      Well, it wasn't. Your idea of how time would "work" in this case makes no sense, at all, and rather defies the more conventional ways time works in fiction. Time flows, it does not "stack", and the way you "explain" it doesn't really make the idea make sense, even less does it explain how would such thing rejuvenate him to childhood.

      The closest is that Ozpin supposedly stores (not stacks) time in his cane. But that can be interpreted differently: That, basically, he's making the cane age in his place. And as proven by Jaune's decades-old family sword, even old weapons can remain effective for a damn long time. But that's it.

      And some of your arguments can be confronted with Occam's Razor:

      1-How did Ozpin live for 80+ years? Simple: Aura. Aura doesn't heal, but rather improves the body's natural recovery so it heals faster. With a powerful-enough Aura, this means one would also age more slowly, or more precisely, their body would decay over time more slowly. As we age, we get weaker, but Aura slows it down, preserving youth for longer. And, we know from the WoR that Aura can make one "more than just a man", while showing Ozpin.

      2-How did he sped up when fighting Cinder? Not by spending any stacked time or anything. He simply used Time Dilatation, his power if not Semblance. If you make things move slower in time around you, to others it's the same as you moving faster.

      Well, sorry if it is not clear. To summary the thing, age is stacked in the cane and the body as time goes by. When used, it decrease, lowering the age stacked in the item/body. For the latter, the decreased in time stacked (thus age), is shown by a rejunevation. I understand it can mess with how most people see time as something going in only one way, but in my opinion, it make sense.

      Ozpin can indeed store time in his cane that was said by the RWBY team. From that, I only assumed that his power was to store and use time. Indeed his cane could have been his main stack and can age at his place, but maybe he can use his own body as an emergency stock.

      I am not sure aura would allow someone to live for that long, but again, Ozpin seems like a powerful individual, so it's entirely plausible. 

      That can also be another interpreation of his power. Then again, I am not assuming my ideas are true, only making theories. 

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    • Kaptainbradukk wrote:

      To summary the thing, age is stacked in the cane and the body as time goes by. When used, it decrease, lowering the age stacked in the item/body. For the latter, the decreased in time stacked (thus age), is shown by a rejunevation. ...in my opinion, it make sense.

      The problem is, it only makes sense to you, but makes no sense to anyone else, because that idea of how time works is just wrong. Time does not "stack", it just moves. Time is relative, so every object has it's own time. If Ozpin uses his time, it won't make him younger, it will make him older.

      Time is not like a cup of water, where you fill it until it's full and can pour it until it's empty. Time is a river, and every body is a boat. They may move slower down the river, increasing their remaining time, or move faster down the river, decreasing it.

      Using your time does not cause rejuvenation, because you're not pouring the water in a cup. You're moving down a river. Using your time will make you older.

      And that's why your theory just doesn't have a good enough base to be believable.

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    • I think Ozpin somehow transfered his soul into the farm boy, calling it now

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    • SomeoneYouUsedToKnow wrote:
      Kaptainbradukk wrote:

      To summary the thing, age is stacked in the cane and the body as time goes by. When used, it decrease, lowering the age stacked in the item/body. For the latter, the decreased in time stacked (thus age), is shown by a rejunevation. ...in my opinion, it make sense.

      The problem is, it only makes sense to you, but makes no sense to anyone else, because that idea of how time works is just wrong. Time does not "stack", it just moves. Time is relative, so every object has it's own time. If Ozpin uses his time, it won't make him younger, it will make him older.

      Time is not like a cup of water, where you fill it until it's full and can pour it until it's empty. Time is a river, and every body is a boat. They may move slower down the river, increasing their remaining time, or move faster down the river, decreasing it.

      Using your time does not cause rejuvenation, because you're not pouring the water in a cup. You're moving down a river. Using your time will make you older.

      And that's why your theory just doesn't have a good enough base to be believable.

      Alright, I hear you on that one. I still think the boy is linked to Ozpin or the wizard in some way.

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    • I rewatched the episode, and the kid's voice upon waking up is definitely male. Farmkid's a boy. Now what?

      Oh, I just now figured out another reason I got so riled up about all this "Farmkid's super duper important, he's Ozpin or something" speculation, and it also has to do with the RWBY fandom's history.

      Remember when we all couldn't wait to see Qrow? Tons of fans were too impatient for Qrow to show up, so they kept pointing at random male characters and screaming "That's Qrow!" over and over again, even when it didn't make a damn bit of sense, and that got annoying. Remember? "*Points at Shopkeeper* THAT'S QROW! *Points at Ironwood in the volume 2 trailer* THAT'S QROW! *Points at Mercury after Burning the Candle* THAT'S SECRETLY QROW!" *Facepalm* Of all the theories in the time of the volume 2 trailer, calling Ironwood Mr. Schnee made more sense than calling him Qrow, to be honest.

      Anyway, people pointing at farmkid and going "THAT'S OZPIN/SPRING MAIDEN!" reminds me of that. We see a new character who seems important, and almost everyone immediately snaps to "THAT'S [INSERT CHARACTER WE REALLY WANNA SEE]!!!"

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    • I kinda missed all that side of the fandom, wasn't around.

      (Seriously, the shopkeeper?)

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    • I kinda remember that. But to be fair, the Cabbage Shopkeeper was never connected to the story in anyway as much as Farmboi is. From what they're implying (assuming his whole role wasn't just "oooohhh look how cool our animation skill is") is that he somehow has a way to see Salem's plans. And so far, the only specific person (besides Ruby and her own henchpeople) connected to Salem's plans is Ozpin and the Spring Maiden.

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    • ChishioKunrin wrote: I actually thought similar, to be honest.

      Though, my thoughts were more like "I swear, if this kid turns out to somehow be the Spring Maiden..."

      I think the farm boy could be allude to princess Ozma from the wizard of oz novels. According to the novel, princess Ozma was magically turn into a boy by Mombi and erase any memory she had of being a girl.

      This farm boy could relly be a girl without realizing it.

      Maybe this is the LGBT that both Monty and RT wanted to bring.

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    • We need another alternative theory to the Oz and Spring ones...

      It's Neo!

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    • Pac115man wrote:

      ChishioKunrin wrote: I actually thought similar, to be honest.

      Though, my thoughts were more like "I swear, if this kid turns out to somehow be the Spring Maiden..."

      I think the farm boy could be allude to princess Ozma from the wizard of oz novels. According to the novel, princess Ozma was magically turn into a boy by Mombi and erase any memory she had of being a girl.

      This farm boy could relly be a girl without realizing it.

      Maybe this is the LGBT that both Monty and RT wanted to bring.

      replacement for Ozpin, perhaps?

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    • Draph91 wrote:

      Pac115man wrote:

      ChishioKunrin wrote: I actually thought similar, to be honest.

      Though, my thoughts were more like "I swear, if this kid turns out to somehow be the Spring Maiden..."

      I think the farm boy could be allude to princess Ozma from the wizard of oz novels. According to the novel, princess Ozma was magically turn into a boy by Mombi and erase any memory she had of being a girl.

      This farm boy could relly be a girl without realizing it.

      Maybe this is the LGBT that both Monty and RT wanted to bring.

      replacement for Ozpin, perhaps?


      Well in the novel, it did said she was the rightful heir to the throne. So yeah, she could take the mantle of Ozpin.

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    • WC-83 wrote:
      I kinda remember that. But to be fair, the Cabbage Shopkeeper was never connected to the story in anyway as much as Farmboi is. From what they're implying (assuming his whole role wasn't just "oooohhh look how cool our animation skill is") is that he somehow has a way to see Salem's plans. And so far, the only specific person (besides Ruby and her own henchpeople) connected to Salem's plans is Ozpin and the Spring Maiden.

      There were definitely better ways for them to go "Oooh look how pretty everything is now, look how much better the animation is!" (Plus, they accomplished that with the Beowolves coming out of the goo and with the scenery shots for RNJR's scene). I think farmboy is important or significant to some extent.

      Pac115man said:

      I think the farm boy could be allude to princess Ozma from the wizard of oz novels. According to the novel, princess Ozma was magically turn into a boy by Mombi and erase any memory she had of being a girl.

      This farm boy could relly be a girl without realizing it.

      Maybe this is the LGBT that both Monty and RT wanted to bring.

      However, Miles said that the LGBT characters are already in the show and have been in the show for a while now. They just haven't found a good way to reveal their LGBT status in a way that's not a big deal and feels as normal and mundane as "Weiss prefers coffee over tea."

      That, and they had said an LGBT character Monty was adamant about introducing was introduced in volume 3 (maybe Scarlet), so...

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    • ChishioKunrin wrote:

      That, and they had said an LGBT character Monty was adamant about introducing was introduced in volume 3 (maybe Scarlet), so...

      I wonder if it's Flynt.....Come on, his Semblance is rainbow-colored clones!

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    • Flynt needs more screen time as the only black character that's not evil and submissive to Cinder.

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    • Oi, don't dismiss Sage, Arslan, and Nadir!

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    • KNN005 wrote: Flynt needs more screen time as the only black character that's not evil and submissive to Cinder.

      I'm still convinced she's going to be Weiss' love interest.

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    • HighCastle67 wrote:
      Oi, don't dismiss Sage, Arslan, and Nadir!

      People keep telling me they're fodder characters that don't matter. I wish they did, but even Sun and Nep don't seem to be important to the story anymore. It's like they make charcters just to toss them aside after a single fight. Kinda like characters in Naruto that weren't Naruto or Sasuke or Kakashi.

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    • Sun's coming back and is going to be a part of Blake's part of the story.

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    • After watching the episode again "farmboi" feels more like farmteen to me. Someone who's the same age as RNJR/JNRR and thus his suspenders are shaped around his muscular pecs because he works a farm everyday, not because he is secretly a girl with breasts.

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    • KNN005 wrote:
      HighCastle67 wrote:
      Oi, don't dismiss Sage, Arslan, and Nadir!
      People keep telling me they're fodder characters that don't matter. I wish they did, but even Sun and Nep don't seem to be important to the story anymore. It's like they make charcters just to toss them aside after a single fight. Kinda like characters in Naruto that weren't Naruto or Sasuke or Kakashi.

      A black character is still a black character, whether or not they have some depth to them. Flynt is the only one with personality I think mainly to his name being an RT joke.

      And yeah Sun was in the intro w/ Blake so he's definitely coming back, and Neptune has a good deal of personaltiy voiced by Kerry, so he's probably coming back soon. And CRWBY said that team SSSN was meant to play a larger role in RWBY.

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    • Atebox wrote:
      After watching the episode again "farmboi" feels more like farmteen to me. Someone who's the same age as RNJR/JNRR and thus his suspenders are shaped around his muscular pecs because he works a farm everyday, not because he is secretly a girl with breasts.

      I dunno if he's 18.. (NJR are 17-18). 14 or 15, sure. I agree with you on the muscular pecks thing, though.

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    • Isn't Ruby like 15 possibly 16 since the time skip? Plus it's always been hard to tell how old people were and the new animation doesn't help that. So it wouldn't surprise me if he was 17/18.

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    • Atebox wrote:
      Isn't Ruby like 15 possibly 16 since the time skip? Plus it's always been hard to tell how old people were and the new animation doesn't help that. So it wouldn't surprise me if he was 17/18.

      His big round eyes may either be from youth, innocence, or both, so I'm not sure he's 17/18.

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    • He's 26 obviously.

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    • No, dude, he's obviously 55. He got distracted while drawing water up because he was making sure there were no kids on his lawn.

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    • Those damn kids kicking over his tulips again. That's the real reason his field was empty.

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    • ChishioKunrin wrote:
      No, dude, he's obviously 55. He got distracted while drawing water up because he was making sure there were no kids on his lawn.


      but does the punk feel lucky.... Well does he?

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    • HighCastle67 wrote:

      A black character is still a black character, whether or not they have some depth to them. Flynt is the only one with personality I think mainly to his name being an RT joke.

      And yeah Sun was in the intro w/ Blake so he's definitely coming back, and Neptune has a good deal of personaltiy voiced by Kerry, so he's probably coming back soon. And CRWBY said that team SSSN was meant to play a larger role in RWBY.

      As long as we're not spoon fed character back to back for the to quickly be discarded and forgotten. Tournaments do that. That's why we had the problems we did with the 3rd season. Lots of new faces only to do a single fight then vanish until brought back by popular demand. If Flynt or Sun or any co-star plays a major role again, let in be with epic battle and serious drama. Not comedy. Othewise...SMH

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    • KNN005 wrote:

      As long as we're not spoon fed character back to back for the to quickly be discarded and forgotten. Tournaments do that. That's why we had the problems we did with the 3rd season. Lots of new faces only to do a single fight then vanish until brought back by popular demand. If Flynt or Sun or any co-star plays a major role again, let in be with epic battle and serious drama. Not comedy. Othewise...SMH

      What did you expect them to do for the tournament fights?

      a) Have it feel almost as if no other students exist in the world by only showing the already-introduced characters fighting each other?

      b) Half-ass it and have them fight simple, bland background characters with simple, bland weapons?

      ABRN, BRNZ, and NDGO's purpose was to make the tournament and the world of Remnant feel more alive, without it feeling lazy.

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    • ChishioKunrin wrote:

      Oh, I just now figured out another reason I got so riled up about all this "Farmkid's super duper important, he's Ozpin or something" speculation, and it also has to do with the RWBY fandom's history.

      Remember when we all couldn't wait to see ....

      Anyway, people pointing at farmkid and going "THAT'S OZPIN/SPRING MAIDEN!" reminds me of that. We see a new character who seems important, and almost everyone immediately snaps to "THAT'S [INSERT CHARACTER WE REALLY WANNA SEE]!!!"

      So what you're saying is.... That's Pyrrha
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    • I find myself wondering if, thanks to the 'magic' of Aura, reincarnation is going to turn out to be a thing on Remnant; reincarnation of the power and spirit if not the personality and memories.

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    • 73.Anon.52 wrote: So what you're saying is.... That's Pyrrha
      Farmboy Fan Art
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      "For it is in passing that we achieve immortality. Through this, we become a paragon of virtue and glory to rise above all, infinite in distance and unbound by death."

      Ssssuuuurrrre...?

      Real talk, though: The "Everybody is Qrow" thing gave me a pet peeve, which makes me want people to consider that maybe this kid is his own person and not get too hyped up in "Maybe he's Ozpin/the Spring Maiden" theories.

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    • BenRG wrote:
      I find myself wondering if, thanks to the 'magic' of Aura, reincarnation is going to turn out to be a thing on Remnant; reincarnation of the power and spirit if not the personality and memories.

      Mmm........Reincarnation of the power and spirit, I can see, and by extension, of the personality as well. Memories....naturally, no, because then nearly everyone would have past memories. So, if memories are included, I feel they would be "locked".

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      • points at Shopkeeper's nose*

      HE IS THE OLDMAN WHO GIVE THE POWER OF MAIDENS

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    • If reincarnation is a thing, then the only person who might be reincarnated as a young child that is able to help the plot in any way at this point would be either Summer or the Wizard. I mean...Pyrrha died only 6-8 months ago. Even if her soul was reincarnated on the exact moment she died, she'd still be only 6-8 months old. Literally a baby. She's not gonna save the world any time soon.

      However, Summer or the Wizard could be interesting, I guess?

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    • 23.235.227.109 wrote:
      *points at Shopkeeper's nose*

      HE IS THE OLDMAN WHO GIVE THE POWER OF MAIDENS

      Vol2 Shopkeep ProfilePic Normal

      I used to work one job.... but then I gave up my magical powers to 4 young ladies


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    • I think it's the spring maiden in disguise. The eye color is basically the same as the spring maiden's color in the WoR video. The eye shape is also consistent with what we've seen of females in this show. Even shota Schnee has narrow eyes. He's aslo doing the same thing the maiden was doing in the video, growing stuff. A farm would be right up the maiden's alley, espeically if she had to hide, but still make a living. In addition to that, disguising herself as a male would be the perfect cover. Maidens can't be guys. Tyrian would pass right over her.

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    • 67.140.221.92 wrote:
      I think it's the spring maiden in disguise. The eye color is basically the same as the spring maiden's color in the WoR video. The eye shape is also consistent with what we've seen of females in this show. Even shota Schnee has narrow eyes. He's aslo doing the same thing the maiden was doing in the video, growing stuff. A farm would be right up the maiden's alley, espeically if she had to hide, but still make a living. In addition to that, disguising herself as a male would be the perfect cover. Maidens can't be guys. Tyrian would pass right over her.

      If you listen to the grunts he makes in his scene, they're clearly male. Plus he has pretty broad shoulders only found on the males in the series.

      Farm boy's eyes being large and pretty seems to signify that he's young and innocent. Shota Schnee is also currently the only male in the household, which could signify that he's under pressure or etc.

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    • It's not like they wouldn't cast a male VA for when he's in disguise, only to use a female one for when he's exposed.

      That boy didn't look like he was under pressure. Farm boy's eyes are even wider than his

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    • Why would they get two different VAs for someone in disguise, unless they do weird magic shit and he completely transforms into a maiden. It'd be easier smarter for a female VA to just train their voice to sound more masculine.

      And I meant it's stressfull just living in the house. Weiss has stated that her father after work was "difficult" and that energy bleeds onto people, whether or not they show it. The eyes could be a silent indicator that he's stressed living w/ Papa Schnee.

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    • 67.140.221.92 wrote:
      It's not like they wouldn't cast a male VA for when he's in disguise, only to use a female one for when he's exposed.

      That's....pretty much never done in the world of voice acting. At most, they cast a female VA that can sound convincingly male.

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    • Like SYUTK said, they'd more likely cast a female voice actress who can sound convincingly male. Plus, they'd be hoping we'd write off any feminine-sounding note in the kid's voice with "He's really young."

      Lil Bro Schnee may not be as innocent as Farmkid. After all, Weiss saw some shit while living with dad ("family friends disappear. Board members, executed.").

      Ruby was given rounder, cuter eyes than the other female characters, not just because she's two years younger, but also because she has a more pure, innocent sort of personality.

      Farmkid may also be younger than Lil Bro Schnee.

      Either way, I feel like RT's design on Farmkid is meant to convey a sense of "This kid is young and innocent" so they gave him big cute innocent-looking anime eyes.

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    • The Ozpin theory makes no sense. He definitely has a time semblance, but I don't see how literal reincarnation plays a part in that. He probably pulled a Homura Akemi, and tricked Cinder into thinking she had killed him before hiding in the shadows, waiting for the right time to emerge. The original wizard was all about trickery and smoke and mirrors. It's just built off another fan theory that he's the wizard and his power does the same thing as the maiden's, even though the wizard gave up his powers. 

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    • ChishioKunrin wrote:

      What did you expect them to do for the tournament fights?

      a) Have it feel almost as if no other students exist in the world by only showing the already-introduced characters fighting each other?

      b) Half-ass it and have them fight simple, bland background characters with simple, bland weapons?

      ABRN, BRNZ, and NDGO's purpose was to make the tournament and the world of Remnant feel more alive, without it feeling lazy.

      All I'm saying is: Don't make characters ONLY for a tournament. Sprinkle them helping out around the world even after the fights are over. I mean if they show them for the fight and then after the season is over and the next season starts but you never see them again EVEN THOUGH THE CAST IS TRAVELING THE WORLD that's kinda lame. Those fighters still exist. Why not have Weiss team up with Flynt?

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    • KNN005 wrote:

      All I'm saying is: Don't make characters ONLY for a tournament. Sprinkle them helping out around the world even after the fights are over. I mean if they show them for the fight and then after the season is over and the next season starts but you never see them again EVEN THOUGH THE CAST IS TRAVELING THE WORLD that's kinda lame. Those fighters still exist. Why not have Weiss team up with Flynt?

      At least they were shown helping fight off the Grimm during the battle of Beacon. We'll see if they show up in volume 4, but as it stands right now, we have literally only seen RNJR on their way to Mistral (They haven't reached the City of Mistral yet) and Weiss at home. There hasn't been a chance to show the tournament characters in volume 4 yet.

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    • @ Chishiokunrin: I know, I'm just looking ahead. I just doubt we'll get to see them as most didn't even speak.

      As for the Freckle Boy, I think it's a boy due to the voice I heard as he woke, and I think it's Cinder's brother. I stand by that. He was shown right after the scene with Salem and Cinder's meeting. Like he's tied to her. Like a twin.

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    • KNN005 wrote:

      As for the Freckle Boy, I think it's a boy due to the voice I heard as he woke, and I think it's Cinder's brother. I stand by that. He was shown right after the scene with Salem and Cinder's meeting. Like he's tied to her. Like a twin.

      That's.......an interesting, but most importantly original theory right there.

      I personally don't see much resemblance beyond maybe the hair. Though the idea of Cinder being a country mouse born in the middle of nowhere is indeed interesting.

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    • SomeoneYouUsedToKnow wrote:

      That's.......an interesting, but most importantly original theory right there.

      I personally don't see much resemblance beyond maybe the hair. Though the idea of Cinder being a country mouse born in the middle of nowhere is indeed interesting.

      The way I see it, that's why it's so easy for her to move around. She was born and raised in the sticks. Off the radar. So no one knows who she is. Thus, faking IDs and papers to get in schools is easy. She's a blank slate already. So to me, I think she left her own "weakness" her kid brother back home. That way no one can use him against her. No one can ask him who she is or hold him hostage if they want Cinder to come outta hiding. I bet the only one who knows is Salem.

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    • The spoilers are strong with this one

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    • Thank you for the spoilers.

      Mods please.

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    • MiniDaggers wrote:
      Picard-triple-facepalm-2


      Yeah, I pretty much earned that Triple facepalm.  I'm giving myself a few of those...

      I'm sorry: I have a bad cold, and was not thinking straight today.  It will not happen again.

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    • No worries, we've all done it when we were new to the wiki.

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    • Okay, now I think I can safely say this.

      CALLED IT!

      Is that better?

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    • What did you call again, Jaime? I forgot.

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    • I think it was that his name was Oscar.

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    • WC-83 wrote:
      I think it was that his name was Oscar.

      Bologna!!

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    • ChishioKunrin wrote:
      WC-83 wrote:
      I think it was that his name was Oscar.
      Bologna!!

      Garfield?

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    • SomeoneYouUsedToKnow wrote:
      ChishioKunrin wrote:
      WC-83 wrote:
      I think it was that his name was Oscar.
      Bologna!!
      Garfield?

      My bologna has a first name, it's O-s-c-a-r.

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    • ChishioKunrin wrote:
      WC-83 wrote:
      I think it was that his name was Oscar.
      Bologna!!

      No, that the kid was going to have some connection to Ozpin.

      Yes, I know I'm not the only one who called it, but still.

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    • ChishioKunrin wrote:

      My bologna has a first name, it's O-s-c-a-r.

      So, a fat cat?

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    • 99.6.214.26 wrote: I don't know if he will serve some purpose to the plot of Volume 4, but we shall soon see. Preferably within the next 4 episodes.

      And somehow I guessed correctly, after the premiere of episode 4. I'll be honest, I was actually making a guess at the time but I never thought this guess of mine would actually be proven true!

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    • It happens on occasion; I know that I'm usually smugly shocked whe nit happens to me! ^_^

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    • Now I'm really curios what and who exactly he is

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    • Like that time I joked about Neo having Ruby hanging off an edge, and it actually happened in Heroes and Monsters.

      Or that time in volume 2 when I was like "Guys, I think the mysterious narrator woman is evil."

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    • ChishioKunrin wrote:

      Or that time in volume 2 when I was like "Guys, I think the mysterious narrator woman is evil."

      Some people reckoned that since Volume 1 from what I've heard.

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    • MiniDaggers wrote:
      ChishioKunrin wrote:

      Or that time in volume 2 when I was like "Guys, I think the mysterious narrator woman is evil."

      Some people reckoned that since Volume 1 from what I've heard.

      Yeah, but most people thought she was just cynical, so those of us who thought she was evil got blown off.

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    • I knew she had an "evil" mindset, but I didn't think she was a character until Ozpin narrated.

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