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  • Yes indeed... this is where theories go, in speculation of the next cycle of the great program from the south of the United States: RWBY.

    Hyped for Dark Souls III sorry...

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    • Sounds like it'll be an interesting game.

      Also, I hope that Jaune kept the bunny jammies.  

      - Surana 

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    • I'm pretty sure they packed only the bare essentials, so no. The bunny jammies are probably among the wreckage and being ripped apart by grimm as we speak.

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    • Maybe the Grimm are wearing the bunny jammies.

      Or even better, Port is wearing the bunny jammies. 

      - Surana 

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    • Mr.ToxicVillage said: 

      Alright, so what if all the characters die like how their namesakes did?

      Kind of thinking the same. Pyrrha sort of met her end the second her ankle got shot. Jaune could get burned alive by Cinder. We already stated Nora will get poisoned. 

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    • @grimm wearing jammies

      Not sure if that would be adorable or something straight out of my fucking nightmares.

      @port wearing jammies

      Nuke it from orbit.

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    • ThatOneGuyFromNISLTsCommentSection wrote: AYY LMAO!

      Is that always your first solution? 

      I wonder if Oobleck would look good in bunny jammies. 

      - Surana 

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    • request it on deviantart.

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    • 100.32.22.15 wrote:
      Sounds like it'll be an interesting game.

      Also, I hope that Jaune kept the bunny jammies.  

      - Surana 

      he probably didn't need to... they probably multiplied.

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    • When Adam cuts off Yang's arm, we can see the bird-like shape, which many have speculated is Raven saving her life, lessening the blow, etc. But I'm yet to see anyone else point out that we see the same bird-like shape in the Volume 2 Finale (about 3:09) when Weiss stabs the beowolf. Did Raven intervene then too, or does this have something to do with Weiss' summoning and it was her who helped Yang? Is whoever is responsible actually helping or is there something else happening we're unaware of when this symbol appears, and has this happened at any other time throughout the series, to go unnotised by most if not all viewers?

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    • I'm pretty sure that Raven didn't interfere during the lopsided fight with Adam and Yang, because Qrow did point out to her that Raven's intervention earlier in V2 was a one time thing. 

      - Surana 

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    • ...Can you grab pictures? Screenshots would be helpful, as I haven't seen it nor has anyone else made mention of it, and because I'm not sure what exact moment you are talking about in either scene, I might miss it.

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    • I'm on it, though I meant in Chapter 11 of Volume 3, not 12...

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    • 2.12 1
      3.11 1
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    • They're...not very bird shaped in my opinion. At least, not raven or crow shaped. They look more like the special effects we've seen others give when hitting something than a purposeful bird-shaped outline. The 'wings' are too square to be those of a bird, and the 'tail and head' are too uniform and thin to be a bird. At least, in my opinion anyway.

      They're more of a wonky cross to me.

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    • It’s a bird like shape, I’ll give you that…but surely seeing it present when Weiss stabbed a beowolf invalidates this as being Raven interfering.

      As far as those 2 pictures tell me, that’s a stock particle effect they use when a blow is landed.

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    • Saw screenshots on tumblr of the Yang one, along with some speculation mostly involving Raven, but I saw the one in the V2 finale when I was rewatching it about a week ago. A second or two later is when we see the sword from the White trailer, seemingly made of ice, and in the commentary they say that we had just seen something that would be important in the future. Anyone who hadn't seen the bird symbol would assume they were talking about the sword, especially now since we know of the Schnee's summoning, and that Weiss has summoned the sword twice since then, but is it possible that CRWBY were speaking of that symbol instead an it's potential significance? (honestly I still think they were talking about the summoning, and the bird was something they'd eventually get to and not even allude to in the mean time)

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    • If they were meant to look like birds they weren't going to model excrutiatingly detailed images to use, especially if they'd intended them to appear on screen for the amount of time they were. I don't think that it's unfeasible that Raven would watch out for her daughter, perhaps even her team. There's a [post] on tumblr explaining the German term, Rabenmutter (raven mother), which essentially describes a mother who is always there for her child, even though she may seemingly neglect them and/or neglect them. - "They’re always around warning about dangers and foes even tho it might look like they are not"

      I can't find Monty's original twitter post but Kodachi-sama posted an image from it [here], then Geek96boolean10 posted the remaining images, where a similar bird-like symbol can be seen in the Red Trailer, that Monty said everyone had missed. I think that this, along with the appearence of the bird symbols in 2.12 and 3.11, can be linked, and that even though Qrow told Yang in 3.8 that "she shouldn't expect that kindness again", Raven is still looking out for her, and her sister. (Yang is seen to be fairly careless when jumping into battle (see Yang vs Adam), so knowing that her mother watches over her to ensure her safety, wouldn't exactly help her remedy this flaw.)

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    • Crow red trailer
      You mean this photo? (which, by the way, is a side-on crow, not a top-view crow the images you posted seem to contain)

      I'm just iffy about them specifically putting a bird image in Weiss's attack. What reason would she have for protecting Weiss when she stabs a Grimm, but not protecting Yang somehow when she got attacked by Nevermore and thrown to the ground in the same scene?

      And...if they were meant to look like birds and were meant to be a hint for the observant, they would specifically model cutouts to look like proper bird shapes, regardless of how long they are going to be visible. They took the time to model Blake's ears twitching for like, a quarter of a second way back in the beginning, which the very observant people noticed and called out Blake on being a Faunus.

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    • Umbrallight wrote:
      If they were meant to look like birds they weren't going to model excrutiatingly detailed images to use, especially if they'd intended them to appear on screen for the amount of time they were. I don't think that it's unfeasible that Raven would watch out for her daughter, perhaps even her team. There's a [post] on tumblr explaining the German term, Rabenmutter (raven mother), which essentially describes a mother who is always there for her child, even though she may seemingly neglect them and/or neglect them. - "They’re always around warning about dangers and foes even tho it might look like they are not"

      I am german and I never knew that raben mutter said anything good about the parent.To me it was always a word for a shit mother.

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    • No, though there is that image too. I meant these ones. Some are clearer than others, but the bird shape is definately there.
      Hint
      Red hint 01

      Possible bird-shape from powered-up Crescent Rose

      Red hint 02
      Red hint 04
      Ruby final shot
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    • Those aren't bird shapes. Those are hit-effects. As in, that's the effect of her blade hitting the Grimm. The longest part of the 'shape' is where Ruby's scythe cuts across the Grimm.

      Everyone has that effect. Or are you saying Raven is everywhere, protecting everybody or assisting everybody with their attacks?

      And the bird shape I shared was Qrow's bird, not Raven's. I'm fairly certain we have confirmation of this.

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    • Monty wouldn't have posted about it, saying there was something there of importance, if they were simply hit-effects.

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    • The crow image which I shared with you is the bird he was posting about. We've already discussed this before in previous threads. We've already found the important stuff from the moments he was talking about (the birds, the sword which hints at Weiss's summoning, a ton of other stuff). They're just hit effects. Nothing more.

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    • SpiritedDreaming wrote:
      The crow image which I shared with you is the bird he was posting about. We've already discussed this before in previous threads. We've already found the important stuff from the moments he was talking about (the birds, the sword which hints at Weiss's summoning, a ton of other stuff). They're just hit effects. Nothing more.

      I wonder if qrow can talk in his crow form. 

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    • Silent Mocker wrote:
      SpiritedDreaming wrote:
      The crow image which I shared with you is the bird he was posting about. We've already discussed this before in previous threads. We've already found the important stuff from the moments he was talking about (the birds, the sword which hints at Weiss's summoning, a ton of other stuff). They're just hit effects. Nothing more.
      I wonder if qrow can talk in his crow form. 

      Nora starts waking up as Qrow turns into a crow, they both stare at each other

      Qrow: .....go back to sleep Nora

      Nora passes out

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    • True, it wouldn't make any sense having the image of a bird appear so many times throughout the trailer, whether it was intended or not. I can see how they're hit effects, they fit the actions Ruby's doing, even Adam, but with that being said, I don't think it matches up with Weiss'. With what we have regarding Raven, there is only speculation that still amounts to nothing as to why she'd intervene with Weiss, so I have no explanation for what else it could possibly be. I just don't think they'd use hit effects that could coincidentally be linked to the likeness or charactaristics of another character, such as those with the ability to telelport or change forms, especially when everything in the series has a reason, regardless of how important it may be to the story.

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    • WC-83 wrote:
      Silent Mocker wrote:
      SpiritedDreaming wrote:
      The crow image which I shared with you is the bird he was posting about. We've already discussed this before in previous threads. We've already found the important stuff from the moments he was talking about (the birds, the sword which hints at Weiss's summoning, a ton of other stuff). They're just hit effects. Nothing more.
      I wonder if qrow can talk in his crow form. 
      Nora starts waking up as Qrow turns into a crow, they both stare at each other

      Qrow: .....go back to sleep Nora

      Nora passes out

      Sounds like something that would happen.

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    • WC-83 wrote:

      Kind of thinking the same. Pyrrha sort of met her end the second her ankle got shot. Jaune could get burned alive by Cinder. We already stated Nora will get poisoned. 

      Personally, that would annoy me a bit if it played out that way. One reason why I like the Ambyrrha theory is because it allows them to avert that as it would be akin to Pyrrha/Achilles not dying, though not exactly that way. You know Amber and Pyrrha are killed by Cinder, but due to the Council playing God with their souls, some quirk gets Pyrrha's Aura mixed in with Amber's so when she is killed both their Auras go into Amber's body, reviving it or healing it with hyper-healing after the body was resuscitated by the machines to which she was hooked up. Thus is created a Super Huntress that blends the powers and personalities of both Pyrrha and Amber, who is determined to stop Cinder. Hence, at some point when it seems as if Cinder would burn Jaune alive continuing the march of fate, Ambyrrha averts it by taking her down.

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    • I don't see it happening with Grimm crawling about Beacon, but maybe a dead person in the future can be brought back using the Aura transfer. What if Salem or Cinder takes advantage of Atlas' desire to play god and make Zombie Grimm.

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    • WC-83 wrote:
      I don't see it happening with Grimm crawling about Beacon, but maybe a dead person in the future can be brought back using the Aura transfer. What if Salem or Cinder takes advantage of Atlas' desire to play god and make Zombie Grimm.

      Please no zombies.

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    • Silent Mocker wrote:

      SpiritedDreaming wrote:
      The crow image which I shared with you is the bird he was posting about. We've already discussed this before in previous threads. We've already found the important stuff from the moments he was talking about (the birds, the sword which hints at Weiss's summoning, a ton of other stuff). They're just hit effects. Nothing more.

      I wonder if qrow can talk in his crow form. 

      Qrow's supposed crow form raises so many questions for me. Conservation of mass has been violated (hard I might add). How does he maintain though processes? What are the genetics of it?

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    • Well, there's two prevalent theories floating around at the moment. The most proliferant is that Qrow takes the shape of a crow himself. I am personally not a fan of this one because of the reason you just stated.

      The other is that Qrow can 'mind meld' with crows like a druid or ranger can (something like what Bran Stark has been doing occasionally in GoT), and see through both their eyes and his own. This explains why there seems to be a crow everywhere, including during his fight with Winter; he's keeping an eye on things even while he's physically busy with other things.

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    • Then there is the the really out-there idea that he becomes immaterial and possesses crows.

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    • Before we "saw" him literally turn into a crow, my leading theory for what his link was with the crows was that they were his semblance... Like, just like Sun can create light clones or the Schnee's summoning glyphs create aura constructs shaped like defeated enemies, Qrow could make aura constructs shaped like crows...

      On a more OP version of said theory, if one of his crows spotted something of interest, it could turn into a clone of Qrow. The more crows he merged into the clone, the closer to the real Qrow's power it got.

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    • WC-83 wrote:
      I don't see it happening with Grimm crawling about Beacon, but maybe a dead person in the future can be brought back using the Aura transfer. What if Salem or Cinder takes advantage of Atlas' desire to play god and make Zombie Grimm.

      Well, Qrow managed to evacuate Ruby despite that so there was presumably some opportunity to escape. It would be especially easier for someone to flee Beacon than to try and break through the Grimm surrounding Beacon to get to an unconscious girl at the top of a tower so she could be carried back out. Plus, I mean, for all we know there are secret escape tunnels in case of emergency.

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    • The Devil's Advocate WP wrote:
      WC-83 wrote:
      I don't see it happening with Grimm crawling about Beacon, but maybe a dead person in the future can be brought back using the Aura transfer. What if Salem or Cinder takes advantage of Atlas' desire to play god and make Zombie Grimm.
      Well, Qrow managed to evacuate Ruby despite that so there was presumably some opportunity to escape. It would be especially easier for someone to flee Beacon than to try and break through the Grimm surrounding Beacon to get to an unconscious girl at the top of a tower so she could be carried back out. Plus, I mean, for all we know there are secret escape tunnels in case of emergency.

      except Amber was dead... that's a hell of a handicap far more difficult to succeed with than going in the direction the monsters are headed

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    • There's also the issue of the elevator, the only way to get down to the vault apparently, being completely out of commission. Unless Amber has a flight/energy platform creation/metal manipulation/matter shape changing/personal shape changing semblance. The she might be able to get out of the Vault somehow.

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    • Achilles mother says to him in the movie Troy: 'Your glory walks hand-in-hand with your doom.' 

      What if Pyrrha's mom was like Achilles' mom in that she had a bad feeling her daughter would fall? Like the team gets there, they're all broken up and dreading telling her, but she already kinda knows? I figure it would be a nice segue into telling them the story of how Pyrrha became such a great a fighter, her childhood, siblings, etc.

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    • SketchyOpus wrote:
      Achilles mother says to him in the movie Troy: 'Your glory walks hand-in-hand with your doom.' 

      What if Pyrrha's mom was like Achilles' mom in that she had a bad feeling her daughter would fall? Like the team gets there, they're all broken up and dreading telling her, but she already kinda knows? I figure it would be a nice segue into telling them the story of how Pyrrha became such a great a fighter, her childhood, siblings, etc.

      That'd be perfect. I have a feeling, compared to the grand scheme of things (as well as RNJR having to compete for screentime with Weiss) she's going to be a bit part (ala Winter, showing up for two episodes). The anticipation to her mother being revealed though is monumental. 

      On the subject of family, how is Jaune feeling about his family? Have any of his sisters contacted him or tried to contact him? Does he think of them at all?

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    • WC-83 wrote:

      On the subject of family, how is Jaune feeling about his family? Have any of his sisters contacted him or tried to contact him? Does he think of them at all?

      That kind of reminds me, someone some time ago, when we learned Jaune's parents KNEW he was going to Beacon without any training, saying something like it wouldn't be surprising if they were trying to get Jaune killed.

      And now I have this image in my head that, as RNJR is making their way to Mistral, Jaune is like "My place is kind of on the way we are travelling maybe we could drop by so I can let my parents know I'm still alive." and then when they arrive, Jaune's parents are like "You got catapulted into a forest full of Grimm with your aura locked, the kingdom got rallied by Atlas military, overrun by Grimm, a dragon emerged from within a mountain and started to shit Grimm on the city, and then trashed the Academy... but you are still alive? How? and WHY?"

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    • MetallicArcher wrote:
      WC-83 wrote:

      On the subject of family, how is Jaune feeling about his family? Have any of his sisters contacted him or tried to contact him? Does he think of them at all?

      That kind of reminds me, someone some time ago, when we learned Jaune's parents KNEW he was going to Beacon without any training, saying something like it wouldn't be surprising if they were trying to get Jaune killed.

      And now I have this image in my head that, as RNJR is making their way to Mistral, Jaune is like "My place is kind of on the way we are travelling maybe we could drop by so I can let my parents know I'm still alive." and then when they arrive, Jaune's parents are like "You got catapulted into a forest full of Grimm with your aura locked, the kingdom got rallied by Atlas military, overrun by Grimm, a dragon emerged from within a mountain and started to shit Grimm on the city, and then trashed the Academy... but you are still alive? How? and WHY?"

      Sounds pretty fucked up really. His father definately wanted him to succeed (seems to be the "be a man" sort of dad, wanting him to find a nice girl and the like), but knowing Beacon was probably over his head. Chances are the Arc residence is still in Vale (who knows what they're doing back home, maybe worrying about Jaune, who disappeared along with his team one day).

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    • 73.Anon.52 wrote:

      except Amber was dead... that's a hell of a handicap far more difficult to succeed with than going in the direction the monsters are headed

      True, but if she were revived then it would be a much less serious handicap. I mean, people react as though it is impossible that someone could be dead for an extended duration and then be resuscitated in a magitech world when it already happens in the real world. She was literally hooked up to equipment meant to keep her alive and Aura has built-in healing abilities. Two Auras together would probably amplify that even more.

      SpiritedDreaming wrote: There's also the issue of the elevator, the only way to get down to the vault apparently, being completely out of commission. Unless Amber has a flight/energy platform creation/metal manipulation/matter shape changing/personal shape changing semblance. The she might be able to get out of the Vault somehow.

      Well, my secret tunnel suggestion would kind of deal with that. Having said that, if we assume Pyrrha's Aura and Amber's became intertwined then she may have Pyrrha's Semblance to utilize. Granted, we don't know what happened with Ozpin so there is always the possibility that he tricked Cinder into thinking she won realizing perhaps that Amber could be saved.

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    • MetallicArcher wrote:
      WC-83 wrote:

      On the subject of family, how is Jaune feeling about his family? Have any of his sisters contacted him or tried to contact him? Does he think of them at all?

      That kind of reminds me, someone some time ago, when we learned Jaune's parents KNEW he was going to Beacon without any training, saying something like it wouldn't be surprising if they were trying to get Jaune killed.

      And now I have this image in my head that, as RNJR is making their way to Mistral, Jaune is like "My place is kind of on the way we are travelling maybe we could drop by so I can let my parents know I'm still alive." and then when they arrive, Jaune's parents are like "You got catapulted into a forest full of Grimm with your aura locked, the kingdom got rallied by Atlas military, overrun by Grimm, a dragon emerged from within a mountain and started to shit Grimm on the city, and then trashed the Academy... but you are still alive? How? and WHY?"

      Isn't it a bit more likely the his parnets were unaware of how Beacon trains its students? Could be that they were simply locked out of the loop on how the hunter training system works. (To be clear I'm running under my own theoy the Arc family lives in some far away village somewhere.)

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    • 186.45.90.39 wrote:

      Isn't it a bit more likely the his parents were unaware of how Beacon trains its students? Could be that they were simply locked out of the loop on how the hunter training system works. (To be clear I'm running under my own theoy the Arc family lives in some far away village somewhere.)

      Jaune said people in his family have been heroes for generations.

      Given the family heirloom he took has a basic weapon transformation, I would think he meant hunters... Even if his parents had opted out of being hunters, they would have grown in a family setting where they would be informed of how hunters train and work. They would at least know how central to being able to survive is an aura.

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    • The Devil's Advocate WP wrote:
      73.Anon.52 wrote:

      except Amber was dead... that's a hell of a handicap far more difficult to succeed with than going in the direction the monsters are headed

      True, but if she were revived then it would be a much less serious handicap. I mean, people react as though it is impossible that someone could be dead for an extended duration and then be resuscitated in a magitech world when it already happens in the real world. She was literally hooked up to equipment meant to keep her alive and Aura has built-in healing abilities. Two Auras together would probably amplify that even more.

      You were the one who said your theory was "easier" I've argued enough elsewhere about how Ambyrrha is far more impossible than you think it is... it's not worth discussing those semantics again here.  I think you need to understand however that probability is nowhere near how easy it would be to run towards the creature attracting grimm, you would have a point if its spawn were appearing ahead of it rather than behind it where students were busy "thinning the herd"... but Qrow was likely either airborne or headed there from the other direction.... and if he assumed Ozpin was still alive or in trouble he wouldn't even bother fighting grimm.

      As to your "secret entrance" that is a horribly unlikely feature of any building in Remnant as heavily fortified as the Vault... it creates too easy of an access for Grimm.  Secret entrances can work Irl because you can reasonably restrict access to or viability of the secret passage to prevent the curious from finding them(as you otherwise need to patrol them)... things you just can't do with Grimm.  This is why Mountain Glenn failed, because there were too many unsecured entry points.

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    • what if the wierd shape of the hit marker is because of adam and the grimm's shared motifs. i.e. both connected to salem.

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    • So how far do you [anyone] think this season will progress? Or another way to put it, do you think the season will mostly be about team RNJR getting to Mistral while we see what Weiss/Blake/Yang are doing, or do think we will progress further into Mistral and a search for clues on Cinder's faction?

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    • Grimmstride wrote:
      So how far do you [anyone] think this season will progress? Or another way to put it, do you think the season will mostly be about team RNJR getting to Mistral while we see what Weiss/Blake/Yang are doing, or do think we will progress further into Mistral and a search for clues on Cinder's faction?

      They said Weiss is going to get some focus in V4, but it'd be strange to ignore RNJR's investigation and travel to Mistral. I have a feeling it's going to be split between Ruby and Weiss, with Blake and Yang getting some screentime in occaisionally (to advance the over arching plot).

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    • WC-83 wrote:
      Grimmstride wrote:
      So how far do you [anyone] think this season will progress? Or another way to put it, do you think the season will mostly be about team RNJR getting to Mistral while we see what Weiss/Blake/Yang are doing, or do think we will progress further into Mistral and a search for clues on Cinder's faction?
      They said Weiss is going to get some focus in V4, but it'd be strange to ignore RNJR's investigation and travel to Mistral. I have a feeling it's going to be split between Ruby and Weiss, with Blake and Yang getting some screentime in occaisionally (to advance the over arching plot).

      I think how it'll happen is a quarter of an episode dedicated to each character with the end updstinu us on what the villains are up too.

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    • That seems ineffecient, it'd be better to focus on one person or two (and their teams) an episode to keep the flow, rather than have all 4 competing for screen time (and all 4 competeing with the villains).

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    • WC-83 wrote:
      That seems ineffecient, it'd be better to focus on one person or two (and their teams) an episode to keep the flow, rather than have all 4 competing for screen time (and all 4 competeing with the villains).

      It'll WORK .

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    • 73.Anon.52 wrote:

      You were the one who said your theory was "easier" I've argued enough elsewhere about how Ambyrrha is far more impossible than you think it is... it's not worth discussing those semantics again here. 

      I just don't get how anyone can have such hubris as to think they know what is impossible in a fictional world of magic, mystical technology, and special soul powers, created by someone other than themselves. Everything I have suggested is completely consistent and plausible in the context of the established RWBYverse. This isn't me introducing some unknown element to the story, but just using what we already know as a basis for a theory. You aren't even giving a good reason, just being obstinate. Maybe they won't do anything like what I am suggesting, but for now we don't know with any certainty and hence I feel just fine speculating about what could happen within the confines of the universe's established rules.

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    • Silent Mocker wrote:
      WC-83 wrote:
      That seems ineffecient, it'd be better to focus on one person or two (and their teams) an episode to keep the flow, rather than have all 4 competing for screen time (and all 4 competeing with the villains).
      It'll WORK .

      I could see it working but only if the time is not split equally. i.e. RNJR gets the majority of the attention and WBY each end up getting an approximate subplot equivalent ot an episode like Beginning of the End. That's all saying it isn't WoR stylizaiton like The Four Maidens or the flashback scene in Burning the Candle .

      Bonus Prediction: said subplot episode ends up being episode 7 and WoR 3 of the season so that said WoR 3 sets it up and episode 7 includes Ozpin's retort to Season 3's ending.

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    • The Devil's Advocate WP wrote:
      73.Anon.52 wrote:

      You were the one who said your theory was "easier" I've argued enough elsewhere about how Ambyrrha is far more impossible than you think it is... it's not worth discussing those semantics again here. 

      I just don't get how anyone can have such hubris as to think they know what is impossible in a fictional world of magic, mystical technology, and special soul powers, created by someone other than themselves. Everything I have suggested is completely consistent and plausible in the context of the established RWBYverse. This isn't me introducing some unknown element to the story, but just using what we already know as a basis for a theory. You aren't even giving a good reason, just being obstinate. Maybe they won't do anything like what I am suggesting, but for now we don't know with any certainty and hence I feel just fine speculating about what could happen within the confines of the universe's established rules.

      "Improbable" was what I meant... the insanely improbable bordering on impossible is how I feel about it... note the terms "far more" have nothing to do with "impossible".  As I said, I'm done discussing your theory, agree to disagree(you believe in it, I don't) but the term "easier" implies greater probability, which your theory does not have when pitted against going with the flow of foes.

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    • Silent Mocker wrote:
      WC-83 wrote:
      That seems ineffecient, it'd be better to focus on one person or two (and their teams) an episode to keep the flow, rather than have all 4 competing for screen time (and all 4 competeing with the villains).
      It'll WORK .

      Workable or not, remember this series thusfar is created with each season being essentially a single movie... intercutting is unnecessary and counterintuitive for that purpose when all of them are going to be combined later. 

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    • What if RWBY Chibi gives us all the answers?

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    • MrToxicVoltage wrote:
      What if RWBY Chibi gives us all the answers?

      That dosen't sound that great to me.

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    • Sentry 616 wrote:
      MrToxicVoltage wrote:
      What if RWBY Chibi gives us all the answers?
      That dosen't sound that great to me.

      What about RWBY Omake Theatre?

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    • WC-83 wrote:
      Sentry 616 wrote:
      MrToxicVoltage wrote:
      What if RWBY Chibi gives us all the answers?
      That dosen't sound that great to me.
      What about RWBY Omake Theatre?

      I have no idea what that is, but I think RT is trying to punk us for April fools with the RWBY Chibi announcement.

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    • 73.Anon.52 wrote:
      "Improbable" was what I meant... the insanely improbable bordering on impossible is how I feel about it... note the terms "far more" have nothing to do with "impossible".  As I said, I'm done discussing your theory, agree to disagree(you believe in it, I don't) but the term "easier" implies greater probability, which your theory does not have when pitted against going with the flow of foes.

      Is your "improbable" complaint just objecting to me saying a revived Amber would have an easier time getting away than Qrow? Seriously, he would have to go against the flow of foes too, but he would also have to get through to the top of the tower as well. You are talking about going a much further overall distance to get to a specific point and putting in much more effort. She would merely have to find any holes in the surrounding Grimm horde to get through to any part that is away from Beacon. The latter is easier and there is no inherently vital time concern such as Qrow wanting to get to Ruby before the Grimm could. She could take as little or as much time to get away as necessary.

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    • As the Qrow flies, that is not an issue.... furthermore, Qrow was already en route to the tower.

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    • just gonna say amber has to have some kind of role in V3 i mean rooster teeth got a good actor (from what I understand) to voice her so kind a waste if she has no lines 

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    • sorry ment V4

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    • …err…She could have the role of a fertile soil, does that count?

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    • 49.197.163.42 wrote:
      just gonna say amber has to have some kind of role in V4 i mean rooster teeth got a good actor (from what I understand) to voice her so kind a waste if she has no lines 

      That was more a guest actor if anything, same with Winter in V3 (voiced by Elizabeth Maxwell). While Winter is almost guarenteed to get more screen time in V4 (and even then, she can still find a way to be sidelined), Amber was a bit character who happened to be voiced by Laura Bailey. I do find it odd though, she only said one line, so she could have been hired for a purpose (maybe in flashbacks) I really don't know.

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    • Travis and Laura were in the RT offices to voice act in another show, not RWBY (possibly Camp Camp). While they were there, they recorded a couple throw-away lines for RWBY.

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    • Gastropod wrote:
      Travis and Laura were in the RT offices to voice act in another show, not RWBY (possibly Camp Camp). While they were there, they recorded a couple throw-away lines for RWBY.

      Well there ya go, nothing out of Amber from here (that I can see). Oh well, at least Vic's in for the long haul.

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    • Gastropod wrote:
      Travis and Laura were in the RT offices to voice act in another show, not RWBY (possibly Camp Camp). While they were there, they recorded a couple throw-away lines for RWBY.

      Where did you see or hear that about it?

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    • The Devil's Advocate WP wrote:


      Where did you see or hear that about it?

      It was around the time we first learned about their casting in the show.

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    • How about a source?

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    • They made a couple tweets about a new show in which Travis was cast. Here's one of the Tweets. Can't find the other one for Laura Bailey.

      https://twitter.com/TheMilesLuna/status/677249105005928448

      Travis and Laura did an Achievement Hunter Let's Play around the same time too.

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    • Crownrock wrote:
      How about a source?

      I honestly cannot recall the specifics... I personally don't use twitter(which I believe it was from), and don't possess membership with RT to double check livestreams or panels easily, not to mention the fact I'm usually offline during the initial run of such streams in the first place.

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    • Random thoughts:

      -- While Yang's still laid up and depressed, I think it would be awesome if she got her new arm via Taiyang and not Atlas. Instead of him trying to cheer her up, he's just been in his shop, working hard on forging a new arm for her. And then he gets to surprise her with it one day.

      -- Not that it would ever happen, but I bet a Winter-Glynda fight would be impressive. At least visually, even though Glynda would probably end her.

      -- I've started calling Jaune 'Peeta' in my head. Because they're both equally worthless.

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    • SketchyOpus wrote:
      Random thoughts:

      -- While Yang's still laid up and depressed, I think it would be awesome if she got her new arm via Taiyang and not Atlas. Instead of him trying to cheer her up, he's just been in his shop, working hard on forging a new arm for her. And then he gets to surprise her with it one day.

      -- Not that it would ever happen, but I bet a Winter-Glynda fight would be impressive. At least visually, even though Glynda would probably end her.

      -- I've started calling Jaune 'Peeta' in my head. Because they're both equally worthless.

      Jaune's not worthless... he's a very skilled leader and tactician. He actually had a lot to do with JNPR's first victory in the arena. Offensively, he's still very weak, but he's able to defend himself well enough now that he's not a complete liability in the battlefield. And he's getting better all the time. I look forward to seeing his growth.

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    • SketchyOpus wrote:
      Random thoughts:

      -- While Yang's still laid up and depressed, I think it would be awesome if she got her new arm via Taiyang and not Atlas. Instead of him trying to cheer her up, he's just been in his shop, working hard on forging a new arm for her. And then he gets to surprise her with it one day.

      -- Not that it would ever happen, but I bet a Winter-Glynda fight would be impressive. At least visually, even though Glynda would probably end her.

      -- I've started calling Jaune 'Peeta' in my head. Because they're both equally worthless.

      It'd be cool if Taiyang was a mechanical geius who gave Ironwood half his body.

      If anything Winter would win (since she has both spells and a melee weapon).

      Did Peeta ever get someone killed through his uselessness? And if yes, no spoilers (not on account of me).

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    • WC-83 wrote:

      Did Peeta ever get someone killed through his uselessness? And if yes, no spoilers (not on account of me).

      You think Jaune is responsible for Pyrrha's death because he didn't stop her from going after Cinder?

      What about Ruby? She was too slow to help. Yang, Blake, Nora, and Ren were all incapacitated at the time, meaning Sun and Neptune had to babysit. Even Ozpin couldn't stop Cinder... blaming Pyrrha's death on Jaune isn't fair.

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    • SketchyOpus wrote:
      Random thoughts:

      -- While Yang's still laid up and depressed, I think it would be awesome if she got her new arm via Taiyang and not Atlas. Instead of him trying to cheer her up, he's just been in his shop, working hard on forging a new arm for her. And then he gets to surprise her with it one day.

      -- Not that it would ever happen, but I bet a Winter-Glynda fight would be impressive. At least visually, even though Glynda would probably end her.

      -- I've started calling Jaune 'Peeta' in my head. Because they're both equally worthless.

      I don't see Tai having as having experience making prosthetics, but that would be sweet.

      I agree.

      I don't agree. Jaune is actually useful, and he keeps improving.

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    • Crownrock wrote:
      WC-83 wrote:

      Did Peeta ever get someone killed through his uselessness? And if yes, no spoilers (not on account of me).

      You think Jaune is responsible for Pyrrha's death because he didn't stop her from going after Cinder?

      What about Ruby? She was too slow to help. Yang, Blake, Nora, and Ren were all incapacitated at the time, meaning Sun and Neptune had to babysit. Even Ozpin couldn't stop Cinder... blaming Pyrrha's death on Jaune isn't fair.

      I was talking about Amber actually.

      Useful or not, I think Jaune will be beating himself up out of seeing himself as useless (especially if Ruby takes over leadership of RNJR), but once he gets to Mistral he'll find a way to live with himself.

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    • WC-83 wrote:

      Did Peeta ever get someone killed through his uselessness? And if yes, no spoilers (not on account of me).

      I don't think so. Unless you count the disaster that was the retrieving of the tributes during the 2nd book... in which case, Katniss is as much to blame, though the reason they both were all over the place at the time was because Haymitch kept the whole rescue operation a secret from them.

      If anything, Katniss would never have survived the Hunger Games without Peeta.

      Back to RWBY, Jaune isn't useless. He is less useful than a lot of the cast, but he still gets stuff done that others wouldn't.

      And no, even if Jaune had not gotten distracted by Pyrrha screaming in pain, he wouldn't have been able to prevent Amber's death. I thought that became clear after Cinder's arrow disintegrated and reformed around Pyrrha's shield.

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    • Gastropod wrote:
      They made a couple tweets about a new show in which Travis was cast. Here's one of the Tweets. Can't find the other one for Laura Bailey.

      https://twitter.com/TheMilesLuna/status/677249105005928448

      Travis and Laura did an Achievement Hunter Let's Play around the same time too.

      Well, I am more interested on whether their lines were both described as throw-aways as that would suggest they saw no future for Amber. People can still lie about that sort of thing, but it would at least suggest Amber was only for Volume 3 and she won't be back in any form, flashback or revived. Travis probably is not going to come back for the character he had so his comments aren't important unless you just want to hear him again, but Amber was at least more significant plotwise so if there is any opening for Bailey not just getting some one-liner it could allow for a comeback by Amber.

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    • WC-83 wrote:

      I was talking about Amber actually.

      Useful or not, I think Jaune will be beating himself up out of seeing himself as useless (especially if Ruby takes over leadership of RNJR), but once he gets to Mistral he'll find a way to live with himself.

      Oh, gotcha. I can see him feeling like that's his fault, although objectively we all know that no one in his class could have really done anything to prevent Amber's death short of taking the arrow for her.

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    • WC-83 wrote:

      I was talking about Amber actually.

      Useful or not, I think Jaune will be beating himself up out of seeing himself as useless (especially if Ruby takes over leadership of RNJR), but once he gets to Mistral he'll find a way to live with himself.

      I doubt he'll feel much guilt over Amber given she was practically at death's door already. On the other hand, he may feel very guilty given the connection between failing to protect Amber and Pyrrha being killed. Had the transfer been successful and Pyrrha got the remaining Maiden power then Cinder would have been in a bad spot and probably wouldn't have killed Pyrrha.

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    • The Devil's Advocate WP wrote:
      WC-83 wrote:

      I was talking about Amber actually.

      Useful or not, I think Jaune will be beating himself up out of seeing himself as useless (especially if Ruby takes over leadership of RNJR), but once he gets to Mistral he'll find a way to live with himself.

      I doubt he'll feel much guilt over Amber given she was practically at death's door already. On the other hand, he may feel very guilty given the connection between failing to protect Amber and Pyrrha being killed. Had the transfer been successful and Pyrrha got the remaining Maiden power then Cinder would have been in a bad spot and probably wouldn't have killed Pyrrha.

      I'm also talking about not stopping her from fighting Cinder (though there was nothing he could have done except maybe realize Pyrrha's feelings early...maybe), as well as, as said before, possibly getting his leadership usurped by Ruby might make him feel inadequete. Jaune did lose the only person who believed in him.

      I don't know, but I can't help but feel he'll blame himself for everything.

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    • I think Ruby believes in Jaune too. The pep-talk conversation they had in "Forever Fall" back in Volume 1 seems to be pretty indicative of their relationship. Also, he does say to Pyrrha "You were the first person to ever believe in me", not only, but that might be being pedantic.

      Overall, I think Ruby and Jaune's motivations at this stage are pretty similar. Neither of them fell into despair and self-pity like Yang did, instead they turned their energy towards constructive goals like bringing the people responsible to justice. Remember Jaune's little speech after Penny's death in "Battle of Beacon", which had a similar theme. So I honestly think they understand each other pretty well and hope they don't butt heads in the next season.

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    • Gastropod wrote:
      I think Ruby believes in Jaune too. The pep-talk conversation they had in "Forever Fall" back in Volume 1 seems to be pretty indicative of their relationship. Also, he does say to Pyrrha "You were the first person to ever believe in me", not only, but that might be being pedantic.

      Overall, I think Ruby and Jaune's motivations at this stage are pretty similar. Neither of them fell into despair and self-pity like Yang did, instead they turned their energy towards constructive goals like bringing the people responsible to justice. Remember Jaune's little speech after Penny's death in "Battle of Beacon", which had a similar theme. So I honestly think they understand each other pretty well and hope they don't butt heads in the next season.

      Can't imagine they will. I think they were meant to be together from the start.

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    • Silent Mocker wrote:
      Gastropod wrote:
      I think Ruby believes in Jaune too. The pep-talk conversation they had in "Forever Fall" back in Volume 1 seems to be pretty indicative of their relationship. Also, he does say to Pyrrha "You were the first person to ever believe in me", not only, but that might be being pedantic.

      Overall, I think Ruby and Jaune's motivations at this stage are pretty similar. Neither of them fell into despair and self-pity like Yang did, instead they turned their energy towards constructive goals like bringing the people responsible to justice. Remember Jaune's little speech after Penny's death in "Battle of Beacon", which had a similar theme. So I honestly think they understand each other pretty well and hope they don't butt heads in the next season.

      Can't imagine they will. I think they were meant to be together from the start.

      Lancaster aside, I totally forgot his speech from Battle of Beacon (I tend to forget things easily), that's a good indication he'll be fine. But I can still see him sort of nursing his grief from Pyrrha's death (staring out into space from thinking of her only to get jolted back). Him getting to Mistral and talking with her mother should allow him to get over it completely.

      I do wonder who's going to be leader of RNJR. Would Jaune give leadership to Ruby on account of her being the chosen one or will Ruby let Jaune lead his team?

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    • Personally, I think Jaune's the better leader. Ruby's still got that impulsiveness that comes with youth. Jaune's awareness during the competition was impresssive.

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    • Well, tactically, Ruby coordinated complex team attacks in "Players and Pieces" and "Painting the Town" and possibly other fights.

      Jaune's tactics go about as far as "the thing... where we take our shields...? Remember, Pyrrha? The thing with our shields...?"

      Okay that's an exaggeration, he did manage to be kinda useful during the BRNZ match, but I still think you're not giving Ruby nearly enough credit.

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    • Ruby's an excellent leader, no doubt. I just feel that Jaune's a bit better. Ruby is rash and has a tendency to rush in without help, whereas Jaune is fully aware of his shortcomings.

      Okay, so maybe it's a coin toss who's better, but I don't think they'll butt heads. And I'd personally like to see Jaune as the leader. He's the weakest member of the team, just like Captain America in the Avengers, Batman in the Justice Leage, Robin in the Teen Titans, etc. His team is his strength, and I don't want to see him become useless.

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    • ' dont really think one is better than the other.They both have areas were they are good at.For Ruby its pre-planned out attacks,For Jaune it's on the spot tactics.Aside for some conflict in the begining to get them to adapt,I think V4 will show them complementing each other well enough.

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    • I see jaune as the strategist and ruby as the Tactician.

      Strategist: creates and controls the grand plan.

      Tactician: controls the play by play moments on the battle field.

      I see them being co-leaders.

      -The Midnight Dreary

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    • Jaune hasn't really shown much skill at long-term strategy. He's kinda good at assessing a situation and capitalizing on an opportunity, like he did in "New Challengers" and kind of did in "Players and Pieces".

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    • Plus Ruby doesn’t do a lot of leading once things get hectic, and has on at least 1 occasion of V3 acted on her own, while ignoring the rest of the group. If anything that assessment should be flipped.

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    • Fair point, I guess I just remember how monty wanted a soka(avatar), a strategest though while still good in a fight(this to me will be somewhere between the 4th and 6th volume) was mainly a leader and plan builder. Though I still see their team interation being more of a co-leader thing or them switching between leadership( their are many reasons why this is a possibility).

      -The Midnight Dreary

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    • VedranTheII wrote:

      Plus Ruby doesn’t do a lot of leading once things get hectic, and has on at least 1 occasion of V3 acted on her own, while ignoring the rest of the group. If anything that assessment should be flipped.

      If you're referring to "Battle of Beacon", I'd argue that was because she was away from the rest of her team. And she still did take charge earlier, when Velvet took a snapshot of her.

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    • Gastropod wrote:

      VedranTheII wrote:

      Plus Ruby doesn’t do a lot of leading once things get hectic, and has on at least 1 occasion of V3 acted on her own, while ignoring the rest of the group. If anything that assessment should be flipped.

      If you're referring to "Battle of Beacon", I'd argue that was because she was away from the rest of her team. And she still did take charge earlier, when Velvet took a snapshot of her.

      Personally I'd argue it's a running trend caused by her fighting style... RWBY runs on momentum, they rely on a speed and pace I don't think JNR can keep up with, Nora can take out obstacles fine and maintain an even pace, but Ren would likely be the only one who could keep up(though not for long).


      Basically JNR would probably slow Ruby down if she tried to control them, though as I've stated elsewhere I don't doubt who is team leader will come up, I just think it will be an issue of who needs to step up rather than a power struggle, though they may find each other using strategies that presume they are team leader out of habit.

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    • Gastropod wrote:

      If you're referring to "Battle of Beacon", I'd argue that was because she was away from the rest of her team. And she still did take charge earlier, when Velvet took a snapshot of her.

      But by that logic, she is going to be away from her team a lot in V4, so chances are it will happen again.

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    • I'm interested to see what sort of team attacks they're even capable of. RWBY's fight with the Paladin reminded me of Chrono Trigger (Anyone? No? Great game, you should play it.). I can't wait to see what they come up with for RNJR.

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    • WC-83 wrote:

      If anything Winter would win (since she has both spells and a melee weapon).

      But that melee weapon becomes useless as soon as Glynda uses her semblance and disarms her.

      Sentry 616 wrote:

      I don't see Tai having as having experience making prosthetics, but that would be sweet.

      I'm not talking a full-on, Atlas badass biomechanical prosthesis. Given all hunters abilities to forge weapons, it wouldn't be that much of a stretch to think an experienced hunter like Taiyang could forge her either a very basic arm/hand combo or even a full on weapon sleeve, and not even bother with the hand part, at least not for now. Like a more impressive Ember Celica with maybe a solid fist/blunt instrument at the end. Something where she can defend herself, should she decide to leave the house. Plus, it would give her some hope.

      ==

      As for Jaune ... He may be the best tactician of JNPR, but he's not a very good leader. Did everyone forget the scene where he's standing around, middle of the tourney, berating his team because they didn't remember the super cutesy fighting move names? Aside from stealing the idea from RWBY, it was his fault for not communicating clearly with his team and outlining what he expected of them. It feels like he's going through the motions of what he thinks a good leader should be. As someone who was bullied, his idea of strength and leadership is probably flawed anyway. 

      I think Jaune will feel immensely guilty about everything and will have Ruby be the leader for a while. She'll grudgingly take it, but only so she can give him some time to get over things, and then will step aside so Jaune can step up when he's ready. (Or when she thinks he's ready.)

      I just want him to suffer horribly. I want him to suffer so badly that even I feel guilty. I have to look at his worthless face for the next umpteen seasons while Pyrrha's dead. I should at least get some amusement out of it.

      ETA: Spelling.

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    • I would like sometimes of rage and times he forgets the sadness and smiles because Ruby or Nora does something very funny(though I would also like for them to, at times, be sad and depressed and maybe a little hatred and want for revenge).

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    • As for Jaune ... He may be the best tactician of JNPR, but he's not a very good leader. Did everyone forget the scene where he's standing around, middle of the tourney, berating his team because they didn't remember the super cutesy fighting move names? Aside from stealing the idea from RWBY, it was his fault for not communicating clearly with his team and outlining what he expected of them. It feels like he's going through the motions of what he thinks a good leader should be. As someone who was bullied, his idea of strength and leadership is probably flawed anyway. 

      To be fair.Ruby and Sun didnt ready get a postive showing as leaders ethier in the tourney.Wesis pretty much took the regins in team RWBY's match.And Sun pretty much losted control his teammate (his afrer loseing two of his other  teammate.Making his team the only one of the there to lose members in the team rounds)

      Taking these fact into account.He actually got the best showing as a leader.

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    • SketchyOpus wrote:

      As for Jaune ... He may be the best tactician of JNPR, but he's not a very good leader. Did everyone forget the scene where he's standing around, middle of the tourney, berating his team because they didn't remember the super cutesy fighting move names? Aside from stealing the idea from RWBY, it was his fault for not communicating clearly with his team and outlining what he expected of them. It feels like he's going through the motions of what he thinks a good leader should be. As someone who was bullied, his idea of strength and leadership is probably flawed anyway. 


      Please, Jaune was hardly better than Pyrrha as a strategist... he just had more time to talk.

      That match just showcased Jaune's flaws, lacking both confidence and skill he allowed his lack of preparation to bite him in the ass and further allowed his teams disrespect to get to him in that match.  As the Anon above pointed out, both Sun and Ruby also showed similar issues during the tourney.

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    • VedranTheII wrote:

      But by that logic, she is going to be away from her team a lot in V4, so chances are it will happen again.

      Sure, but if we're just evaluating the statement "Jaune is a better leader than Ruby" I'd say that doesn't really count. Jaune didn't exactly lead during the Battle of Beacon either.

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    • I’m not. I’m simply of the opinion that one does better at changing tactics on the spot, and another is better at making plans when stuff aren’t hectic; Jaune and Ruby respectively.

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    • Ruby didn't have much time at all to plan how to kill the Nevermore or to plan the fight against the Atlesian Paladin. Those plans were both formulated in the heat of the moment and were far more elaborate and requiring a lot more teamwork than anything Jaune has been shown coordinating, and they both took place during pretty hectic situations. For the Paladin fight they might have had time to rehearse their team attacks, but in the end Ruby was still adapting her tactics in the heat of the moment.

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    • Keep in mind though the nevermore took big breaks between its attacks as it soared around RWBY, and she gave the plan during those breaks.

      Comparatively, JNPR not only had the stalker to deal with but also their side of the bridge collapsing…yes both were hectic but one of them were on a time limit, and that wasn’t team RWBY.

      Fair enough about the paladin though.

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    • Honestly with the Death Stalker I didn't really think he did all that much. Ren actually took the initiative without any guidance in destroying the stinger, which was the crucial part. Jaune told Pyrrha to throw her shield and Nora to "nail it", but honestly those were pretty obvious openings. Pyrrha pretty much already knew what to do at that point, too.

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    • That’s going into speculation territory though, since neither you nor I can predict how that would have panned out if Jaune was mute…call it obvious all you want, the two didn’t act until AFTER he pointed that out, and there even was a couple of seconds pause before Jaune said anything.

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    • I see Ruby and Jaune are tacticians in different ways. Ruby is more about team work and solo fighting(interpret that the way you want it). Jaune is more about enviromental and keeping aware of enemies and allies abilities and weaknesses. Though I do agree Ruby does seem to be a better strategist and thats because we have never seen Jaune in a strategic role.

      - The Midnight Dreary

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    • He did win the board game when he took over for Blake.

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    • Oh for the love of…unless world of god said something when I wasn’t looking, no he most certainly did not.

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    • "you're just mad the new guy beat you"

      That can only mean Jaune, Neptune, or Sun.

      and Jaune was the one who expressed interest in playing.

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    • In what universe do you refer to someone you know for roughly half a year as a new guy?

      Is it that farfetched to think Neptune tagged into the game to flirt with Weiss?

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    • Speaking of board games...

      Does anyone else want to see a Bang!/Sanguosha based RWBY card game?

      If They actually make it happen I will die the happiest man on earth.

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    • There was a arugement on Jaune characterw about the card game.If I recall correctly they decided to exculde it from both Jaune and Neptune's page becasuse 'new guy' can refer to 'the guy that just started playing' rather than 'the guy we just met'.

      Seems like too a minor thing to aruge about in any case

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    • Well, new guy can be used, in certain contexts, to refer to a person who is new to a specific game.

      "new guy" in that context could mean either "the guy we just met" or "the guy who is new at this game, ad therefore has no experience"

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    • wasn't there some other conversation later with Jaune that indicated he won?

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    • I wonder. Looking on TV Tropes, it compared RNJR to the cast of The Wizard of Oz following the yellow brick road. Will that mean they'll find Ozpin and find out he wasn't as good of a person as he claimed? Most likely due to the whole "treating people like chesspieces thing" they seem to be going for, but as it stands he might be a bit indisposed (what with Salem and all).

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    • So real quick, possibly unrelated, but I found out why Cinder says "First a dismemberment, now this?". Jessica Nigri was so busy that she had only 2 hours or so to record her lines, and at one point in the script, Yang did dismember Mercury, but that was changed later. So there, have fun with that knowledge I guess.

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    • Well, Ozpin never said he was a good person, nor did anything to imply it.

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    • He's kinda said the opposite.

      "I've made more mistakes than any man, woman or child"

      That kinda says it all

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    • He also didn't say anything when Cinder called him arrogant. This may have been him just preparing or not giving anything away. But since it was a show, he probably would have said that she's the arrogant one.

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    • Or maybe he simply kept his cool and dismissed the obvious insult from his oponent.

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