Hey Em. Saw your edit and just wanted to know your reasoning. The God of Darkness was the one who gave humans the ability to use magic and was the one who took it away. So I believe the page should have his theme. It's the same with the Relics, as it has the God of Light's theme due to creating it.
Uh, no. Because magic can use elements of light as well like ice. Jinn said that magic was a gift from the gods, not just one god. The God of Darkness didn't even take them away, the mere lack of the gods presence is what made humanity lose their magic.
Lost Fable Transcript: In response, Salem launches a magical attack, and the warriors follow suit. A barrage of attacks are launched at the God of Darkness, but he easily catches them all into his hand, absorbing them into a purple sphere of energy. Everyone looks in shock.
God of Darkness: My own gift to them... used against me.
Yes, they can use elements of light. What I'm saying is that he gave them the ability to use magic in the first place.
From the magic page: "The Gods created the world through magic and the God of Darkness gave its people the power to wield it."
That's why I don't trust the transcripts. Use the actual episodes for reference. I guess that's something we need to fix then. Jinn says "Magic was a gift from the gods". The idea that the God of Darkness alone gave humanity magic is nothing more than a theory without the homework.
SweetyPete wrote: That's why I don't trust the transcripts. Use the actual episodes for reference.
Uh... I don't understand your logic here... considering the transcript says literally the same exact thing as the episode. In the actual episode, the God of Darkness says "My own gift to them... used against me." which is why the transcript says that.
And yeah, as 73.Anon pointed out, the God of Darkness may have been simply referring to Destruction, not all magic. The Gods of Light and Darkness each contributed gifts to humanity when they created it. Destruction was one of the gifts that the God of Darkness gave them.
SweetyPete wrote: The stuff between the dialogue is what I don't trust.
I don't see how the description of the humans attacking the gods with magic warrants saying "That's why I don't trust the transcripts" when the focus was what the God of Darkness said, so I'm still a bit confused. But I can understand being wary of the descriptions. Personally, when I write descriptions on the transcript, I try to keep assumptions and speculation out of it, which is why the transcript for Cordially Invited describes one of the paintings Weiss walks past as depicting "a white-haired man in a suit of armor" instead of automatically calling it Nicholas Schnee.
Hey Em. Sorry to bother you. But I'm having some issues with infoboxes for some characters such as Winter (maiden) or Amber. Their title won't show even though it is written there when I go into edit mode.
Oh dear. That's my fault actually. changed the master template to say "title" instead of "titles" because it was inconsistent, and went around and edited character templates, but I seemed to have missed some.
Good day Embellem, I decided to move my question here, since I might get a faster response.
We agreed before that Ozpin should stated to be deceased with a † since he is an incarnation. But what about Ozma himself? His page lists him as deceased and Salem's page has a † after his name. Since it's his soul that reincarnates shouldn't he be listed as active, or do we keep it the way it is?
This is really tricky... His body is dead, but his soul is still around. Meanwhile, the original Ozpin is gone. I would say we could say Ozma is alive, since he still exists within Oscar as his own entity, albeit without a body of his own.
Yea it is confusing. The idea was that since Ozma is the forefront, he status would be active (or dormant in this case, since he locked himself). For Ozpin, that was just one of Ozma's incarnations, so he stays deceased.
Yeah, but Ozma the spirit is now called Ozpin. Even Salem's crew call him that.
The same thing happened to Mantle and Atlas. The kingdom was renamed from Mantle to Atlas, and the capital was moved from Mantle to Atlas. The first are the kingdom, the second time I'm refering to the city
Normally, we say a character is active because they are still... you know active and engaging in the story, and deceased when they are no longer. Ozma is a unique case. Due to his reincarnation, he is the soul. As such, to say the soul is active is to say he is active.
For Ozpin, his soul merged with Ozma: there is no difference between the two. So when the man known as Ozpin died, the soul of Ozma latched onto Oscar. That's why his page is listed as deceased. Basically, Ozma merges with his host, they become one, he dies and moves on to the next host with the previous dead.
Honestly, to me this the best way to explain his confusing status.
You really shouldn't though... Ozma is his own person. Ozpin's host we never met, but when they merged they became the Ozpin we know. Oscar as we knew him through V4-5 was Ozpin's new host. It's a straight line relationship, Ozma shouldn't be listed as "active" any more than Ozpin is. His soul lives on yes, but it is so drastically changed he is literally "Ozpin" now, soon to be "Oscar"... like a new game+ character when you choose alternate dialogue options.
Hello, how are you doing? I was hoping if you could give me a hand in the history page for Ozma. I wish to add the King of Vale to it, but am unsure on how to write it. Do I just copy paste the Vale history, or summarize it?
Hello, sorry to bother you again. However, I was wondering if it was confirmed that these two pics are the same incarnation of Ozma. If they are not, I believe the latter should be added to the his page.
Hello. I am having a bit of trouble removing categories for some pages. For A Night Off, Worst Case Scenario, and As Above, So Below, I wish to remove them from the transcript category, as their transcripts are already there. However, when I go into edit mode, the option to remove is not there.