Thread:Sonic2479/@comment-24573226-20170707190838/@comment-25936766-20170708234630

Ugh, can't you people just summon Tvtropes and be done with it? They are the very experts on tropes, including things like "Protagonist", and "Antagonist", and their different kinds.

For example, Grey, Light Yagami in your example with Death Note, is the Protagonist. At first, an Anti-Hero, but gradually, and relatively quickly, goes to Villain Protagonist. Basically, when the main character, is pretty much the Villain.

Also, Jacques is not an Anti-Villain. An Anti-Villain is the inverse of an Anti-Hero. The Anti-Hero is a Hero who lacks traditional heroic traits. An Anti-Villain is a villain who lacks villanous traits.

For example, a villain with heroic goals, virtues instead of vices, and so on. Someone whose ends are evil, but their means are not. Or someone whose ends are not evil, but the means to get there definitely are.

Jacques is an antagonist when it comes to Weiss, though not really evil, based on what we've seen. Abusive at worst, and even then, not in a physical manner (except 1 single time that, being far, Weiss was practically asking for).