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Mmmm.............reading up on the 7 Deadly Sins, I have to say, they are.....far more broad than they sound. I might not be able to properly portray Gluttony with the Ravenous Innocent.

Just for the sake of FYI, I'll post what I found so far:

-Envy or Invidia: Desire for Other People's Things. Different from Jealousy since Envy is about wanting what other people have, while Jealousy is fear and distress over not having things compared to someone else. Basically, "I got 2 apples, and he has 5!" Green.

-Gluttony or Gula: Desire for Excess. Basically, wanting "too much". Stereotypically, it's eating in excess, but theologically it simply refers to using/doing things excessively, and thus can include things not related to food, such as money, drugs, wasting things, etc. Of course, there's a point where it will cross with Greed.

Patron Demon: Beelzebub or Behemoth. Contrasting Virtue: Temperance AKA Abstinence. Associated with pigs and the color Orange.

-Greed or Avaritia: Desire for Things. Mostly money. Technically speaking, Avarice isn't just wanting more money, but also hoarding it or wasting it pointlessly without a care. Ambition is a related idea. Also, a fun fact: Radix Omnium Malorum Avaritia, or ROMA, acronym used by Christians around the 3rd Century as an insult to the Empire.

Patron Demon: Mammon. Contrasting Virtue: Charity. Associated with foxes and frogs and the color Gold or Yellow.

-Sloth or Acedia: Desire for Rest. The lack of desire of working. Also includes Moral and Spiritual lazyness, in other words Apathy towards ideals and other people. Many ages ago, Sloth was instead defined as "knowing the right thing and failing to do it", I assume from a moral standpoint.

Patron Demon: Belphegor, the one everyone mentions yet no one knows who it is. If they did, they'd probably realize he's more fitting of Greed. Contrasting Virtue: Diligence. Associated with Goats, Sloths, Bears and Donkeys, and the color Light Blue.

-Wrath or Ira: Desire for Harm. Getting angry is fine, but excessive anger, justified or not, is this, especially when combined with a quick willingness to resort to violence. If someone is quick to throw punches when angered, let alone triggered, it's this.

Patron Demon: Satan - For those who don't know it's not an Entity, but a Title instead, and sadly "those" is almost everyone - or Amon, or Moloch. Contrasting Virtue: Patience. Associated with Bears, Bulls, and Wolves, and once with Crocodiles by Albretch Durer (though he was probably aiming for a dragon), and the color Red.

-Lust or Luxuria: Desire for Pleasure. Almost always reduced to Sex, but Lust includes other physical desires and luxuries that don't involve sex, like drugs. Basically, Hedonism Gone Wrong.

Patron Demon: Asmodeus. Contrasting Virtue: Chastity, in it's original sense of Monogamy. Associated with Cows, Bulls, Cocks and Goats, and the color Blue.

-Pride or Superbia: Desire for Attention. The key element of this Vice is not just being Prideful, it's being Prideful despite not deserving it. So, an Olympic Champ being all proud and boastful, is not this sin; that, is Self-Respect. The biggest Sin of all, since it theologically involves putting oneself above everyone else, including God.

Patron Demon: Lucifer, The Morning Star, the ha-satan and Seraph who rebelled against God for one reason or another but most versions involve this Sin. Contrasting Virtue: Humility. Associated with Lions, Peacocks and Horses, and the color Purple.

The Eastern Orthodoxy also has an 8th Deadly Sin: Despair, which is basically Giving Up (and probably explains why Russians tend to be damn tough against all odds). Other Christian Churches generally put Despair under Sloth.

Originally, Evagrius Ponticus, by the end of the 2nd Century, when he made the list of Deadly Vices from which all sinful behavior comes, he listed 8 Deadly Vices. While otherwise the same, it had Despair instead of Envy, Prostitution instead of Lust, and added Vainglory ("Deceitful boasting") separate from Pride.

Then by 590AD, the Pope Gregory I revised the list and made the 7 Deadly Sins everyone knows, adding Envy, putting Vainglory under Pride, and combining Acedia/Discouragement with Tristitia/Sorrow to form Sloth.

.....So, looking at what Gluttony entails, I have doubts about using the Ravenous Innocent to portray it. Cannibalism is a common extreme-evil representation of Gluttony, but she fails the "Excess" part, and her story is more of Abstinence than Gluttony by the mid.