User blog comment:SomeoneYouUsedToKnow/SYUTK's V4E7 - MEGAChristmas -Impressions/Recap/@comment-9090085-20161228142133/@comment-9090085-20170102043431

1 - Our main characters are RWBY and JNPR; and not every important character is a main character. There are also supporting characters, like Iroh from Avatar: the last Airbender, who - while serving an important role and getting some badass moments - is not there to do the brunt of the work for the main characters.

And given that the poison in Qrow's veins is debilitating him, that fits with his role as a supporting character; as now he must support RNJR.

2 - @MiniDaggers - So overconfidence = stupidity.

@SomeoneYouUsedToKnow - So we both missed each other's meanings. Alright. You were arguing from a logical position, and they all make sense. But I was arguing from a storytelling perspective, and Qrow represents a little problem in that category...

A) See, the only real way for RNJR to get stronger is to go out and fight; but with Qrow killing around 90% of the Grimm, they aren't getting many opportunities to sharpen their skills against real foes.

B) Qrow's semblance means that he can't participate in team fights; so ether he fights, or RNJR fights, not both. And since Qrow is a better fighter then all of RNJR, he's the logical choice to have fight when the chips are down.

From a storytelling perspective, RNJR are basically going to spend the entire show living in Qrow's shadow, unless something happens to him. This "something" could be almost anything, from a having him die; to having a more pressing issue elsewhere; to receiving a game-breaking injury - and it's that last one that RWBY seems to have gone with. By having Qrow be too badly poisoned to fight(but not dead), he can still be of assistance to RNJR(with information and guidance), while not kill-sealing 95% of enemies.

3 - @SomeoneYouUsedToKnow - He's drunk. He's always drunk. Look at MiniDaggers point #3.

@MiniDaggers - Absolutely. Qrow being drunk doesn't prevent him from carrying out missions for Ozpin; just like Tyrian's overconfidence and sadism doesn't prevent him from carrying out missions for Salem. (see what I did there?)

4 - @MiniDaggers - So you're basing Tyrian's personality on Salem, while I'm basing Tyrian's personality on Tyrian.

@SomeoneYouUsedToKnow - Watch episode 8: A Much Needed Talk; Qrow is poisoned as hell.

5 - I see both of you missed my point: Crazy people are not all like Pierrot le Fou; they are not all like the Joker; they are not all like Tyrian. But those are all crazy people - their personalities fit into a broad spectrum of traits. I brought up Pierrot le Fou specifically because he was the most opposite of what MiniDaggers said a crazy person is like.

It's also a common trait for overconfident people to lose their cool when physically struck. How they respond to this varies wildly: from going berserk to panicking, or anywhere in between, such as a whole bunch of other reactions which it is unnecessary for me to list out, as that would triple the length of my posts.

6 - ...and why does Ruby have to stay useless? I'm making this point because this sounds dangerously similar to what happened in Gundam SEED Destiny, where the main characters introduced in that season were upstaged by the main characters from the first season half-way through; to the point at which the main characters of Destiny were fighting for the villains. I know, it's not an exact comparison.

8 - So you still can't imagine a way for Qrow to get hit? You're not doing your "Qrow is not invincible" clam any favors.

7 - "It's easier and more relevant to my complaint to say what the mistake is, how it could've been lessened or justified and show what the immediate outcome potentially is."

Sounds great! would you like to, I don't know, DO THAT?

You know, give more examples for how to improve the scene, and talk about what those changes would mean? Instead of calling the characters stupid repeatedly?

73.Anon.52 was clever, and changed the presentation of the scene, without significantly changing what happened. This meant that the "plot" remained the same, but the scene itself became more believable.

Now, the changes you two have provided for Tyrian are good; and while I think having Qrow cut off Tyrian's stinger is poor storytelling, it's acceptable because it doesn't change the plot at all.

Having Qrow not get poisoned? That has big repercussions on the plot. I've already outlined some of the reasons - as an amateur writer - I think that's a poor storyline; but conversation goes two ways, soo...

Why don't you tell me why you think it would make for a good story? Just put it under a Point #9.