Talk:Lie Ren/@comment-65.95.202.70-20140808202258/@comment-173.58.251.107-20141031063501

Admittedly yes, Ren and Jaune weren't able to do much in the food fight. Still, we have to consider things with both of them.

Jaune:

-Snuck into Beacon Academy with fake transcripts

-Thus did not have proper Hunter training beforehand, as with lack of knowledge concerning the path of a Hunter

-Lack of confidence in his skills

-Thus explains how and why he became a bullying victim of Team CRDL

-Initially did not accept Pyrrha's offer to help train himself

-Thus explains why his physical abilities weren't at their peak

-Still in training with Pyrrha

-Thus is better than when he first entered Beacon, but still has a long way to go

Ren:

-Appears to be one more for intellectual activities as opposed to sparring

-Has a "quieter" and classier sense of fighting than most of the other characters; seems to rely more on his agility and dexterity as opposed to his strength in battle

-Appears to have a low stamina, and perhaps a fragile health

-The explanation to his lack of endurance and possibly fragile health is because of his heavy usage of Aura

-If Mr. Oum wanted Ren and Nora to balance each other out in terms of personalities, physical capabilities, etc., I'd say he nailed it.

-Ren and Nora are drastically different in terms of their personalities and personal fighting styles..but at the same time, their differences compliment one another.

Besides, both Jaune and Ren are nice guys, and they're working hard to become fully-fledged Hunters. I think that we can applaud their promising natures and their developing skills. On a final note, all the students at Beacon Academy are still students. They're all still in training. That's why all of them have their unique strengths and weaknesses.