Thread:GreyStark/@comment-28288412-20170506220152/@comment-28288412-20170507171320

GreyStark wrote: 1. Those people chose to believe in God, they weren't forced. All God said was Be a a certain place at a certain time and you'll see a miracle. Those people chose to go there. Their free will wasn't violated.

2. I must've not seen the that reference to the wind then. But it says in the same chapter that there was three inches of water. Now I doubt that wind could get rid of that, dry the ground and the people's clothes in ten minutes.

3. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/25/jesus-crucifixion-date-possible_n_1546351.html

4. As for the atheists in the crowd, there are plenty of eyewitnesses who'll say that they were atheists before the miracle. A famous example is the baron of Alvaiazere. One eyewitness was a priest (he was ten at the time) who was about ten miles away when it happened. According to him there was a atheist in his town who was making fun of the people who had gone to see the miracle. When he saw the sun that same guy dropped to his knees and started praying for forgiveness 1. Why even have people be in a certain place at a certain time? That's another thing, how many places are simply in areas where they havs never heard of christianity and have completely different religions with different gods who contrast heavily against the Christian one?

Less so nowadays but it is still certainly a thing. So these people who have never even heard of what is proposed by christianity to be the true god are just expected to know? Or does it not matter? It seems to matter as if I recall correctly the Christian god is kinda opposed to people worshipping other gods, the gold cow or whatever it was that Moses returned to seeing his people worshipping.

2. Doubt all you wish but it is possible.

3. "Possibly."

4. So God completely fucked with his world view. Fair enough, but only doing the miracle for those who attended that specific event is needlessly arbitrary. If God wanted to achieve what the kids IIRC from the book tried to say he wanted to achieve, he could do it with the utmost of ease for the entire planet without impacting free will. And yet he doesn't for no conceivable realistic reasonable reason.