Board Thread:Speculation House/@comment-162.203.244.171-20130726023326/@comment-25801533-20150316023508

Coolishy777 wrote: Wowzers that WAS a lot.

I can't really say much about the double flower reference as I never knew he had white tulips as part of his symbol. I like the fact that you've noticed this and the coresponding latin phrase just adds to the mystery of Adam.

I don't know if he killed Summer but now that you say it, it adds a very unique twist to a theory I've been developing (but I'll get into that later).

The song could really be about a lot of things but lends some credibility to my own ideas.

The semblances I do not know if they can be stolen, but if so, it is a good motivation for part of Cinder's plan (whatever it may be).

Before I get into my own theory looking for feedback and opinions, I ask that you follow this link and read some of my posts that I have added recently. You may pick up on what im theorizing once you read it. Right, so with all that being said and catching up on the other thread, this would be a more appropriate thread to discuss my theory on.

My theory is that Qrow is Adam. Lots of people jump up and go you're wrong without following all the clues.

Qrow and Raven undercover gathering information for Ozpin based off of Hugin and Munin poem (see link above if you havent already). If they are undercover they cannot use their real names, weapons, or fighting styles. Qrow is said to be a teacher at signal and doesnt teach every student how to wield a sniper scythe, so he must know several different fighting styles. Big hole as to him being a teacher and a criminal at the same time I know, but police officers that go undercover live double lives all the time. Raven and Adam have similar clothing styles and even more similar fighting styles which would make some sense if they are siblings (not 100% proven, but highly likely).

If Raven is Yang's mother than Yang is half Faunus. Monty had said that half Faunus are possible and we may have already come across some. This makes Qrow Yang's uncle (her father, Taiyang's, brother in-law).

Adam and Yang have very similar semblances (if the moonslice thing was his semblance) where they essentially redirect energy and use it to their advantage. Semblances are likely to run in families.


 * next part is speculation with no evidence some of this I came up with from the ideas posted above by Spiegelmeister

17 years ago Raven leaves Taiyang and Yang to go undercover. Two years go by and there is no word from Raven. Ozpin then sends Qrow in. However to get into the White Fangs higher ups he must kill a huntsman/huntress. Summer sacrifices herself (maybe shes not dead but because she has to appear dead, she cannot return to her family) so that Qrow is able to infiltrate the White Fang "inner circle".


 * end of section

The sacrifice of Summer is supported by the tulip design on the back of Adam/Qrow's jacket under the rose. As Spiegelmeister    said "the whole flower thing has me looking for things there.  I don't like how he has two emblems overlayed, both tulip and rose instead of just one, especially since they are different colors. White tulips are for forgiveness and it's beneath the rose. There's a Latin expression "sub rosa" that means literally "under the rose" or figuratively "something told in secret". So it could be something about forgiveness being held back or secretly asking for forgiveness for the wilting (death of a) rose which could be seen as petals (blood of the fallen) shed on his path to make the WF be what it is."

Now I know what some of you are thinking.

"Monty says that Adam and Ruby aren't related though." Well that actually still holds true. Ruby's parents are Summer and Taiyang. Yang's parents are (we assume) Raven and Taiyang. Ruby has zero relation to Raven or even Qrow for that matter but because Qrow was Yangs uncle, Ruby was raised calling him uncle as well.

"But they dont look alike." well actually they do look very similar.Both Qrow, from the flashback, and Adam from a couple weeks prior to the start of the series have very similar hair styles. Their hair going back for the most part with a little bit at the front pointing forward.



"Yeah, but Qrow doesnt have any horns/feathers etc. on his head." You're right he doesn't, at least that we can see. The picture of Qrow is a very dull uncoloured image and it is hard to determine hair from what may be horns/feathers, coupled with the fact that his horns when viewed from the side barely go above the top of his hair, make it almost impossible to determine if there are horns/feathers. I would also like to point out that the picture we have of Qrow may not be very up to date. When these images come up Yang is telling the story of her and Ruby being attacked 11 years ago. It is likely that the horns/feathers grew significantly over that period of time.

During the story of Yang and Ruby getting attacked by Grimm and Saved by Qrow we see his symbol come up. Yet on the chalkboard Yang draws the same symbol except that it is mirrored. This is likely Ravens symbol and the reason that she went into the woods. She knew that her uncle Qrow had a symbol that was almost identical to her mothers, and she believed that he would have answers for her.



In the first episode of the second season we see that Blake has doodled what appears to be a drawing of her partner Adam. Yang walks up and before anyone can see, Blake closes the book. Yang did not see the image of Adam and therefore never knew that that is who Blake is talking about.

Likewise when Yang tells Blake about her uncle Qrow there is no description of what he looks like so neither of them have the evidence to conclude that they likely knows the same person.

Sorry this post got so incredibly long I hope I haven't totally lost anyone reading this. Let me know what you guys think.