Board Thread:Episode Discussion/@comment-14138255-20161211174540/@comment-30530552-20161214000847

128.62.75.111 wrote: Nikoli the rebel wrote: Technically, Wiess doesn't have to change during the fight for the fight to change her. Often times fights have lasting impacts that reach beyond the killing blow. The right question to ask is "If Wiess hadn't fought the boartusk, then would she be the same person now?"

And to that I say no. Thank you. That's basically what I've been trying and failing to say. If it's any help, I noticed several parallels between the fight and her summoning.

In the original battle, she was in front of a large group of people and acting kinda bitchy to Ruby, who was trying to be helpful and caring [despite being a little immature.] She slew the Boarbatusk, and so character development occurs. The same episode, she is encouraged to look at her situation a different way, and look for a new angle to approach her "misfortune". Similarly, her approach of attacking the boar's armor wasn't working, and she was also forced to look at it from a new angle--Ruby's idea. After the fight, she made the effort to change.

Now, there's a bit of a role reversal here. She might've been bratty, but she certainly wasn't as bad as the other Atlesian elite we see now. Again, she was in a large group of people, but this time, the crowd [for the most part] were bratty and entitled, as seen with "Trophy Wife" and that man yelling in the background about his drink. Don't even get me started on Henry "Marry-me" gold. Seems like Atlesian elite don't like to change. Ruby was caring in the original fight, and now Weiss and Ironwood are the only ones that seem to truly care about Vale's predicament, and both times she got angry about someone trying to control or advise her. Her emotional duress broke through in a very similar situation and she summoned the Boarbatusk, albeit accidentally/unintentionally.

To recap:

-Both events were in front of large crowds.

-One side cared about someone/something's well-being.

-The other side acted entitled and didn't [at least completely] care.

-The entitled side was made to look at things from another angle.

-Both times, Weiss was angry at an attempt to control or advise her.

Emotions DID play a part both times. Less so in the original fight, but who's to say that---

'"History is important, gentlemen, if you don't learn from it, you're destined to repeat it." '

-Oobleck, V1 E12