Board Thread:Episode Discussion/@comment-34633327-20180120015359

Fate knows all about you, it knows your fears and your weaknesses and your confidences and strengths, and it can be ready for all of them when it decides that the time is right. It can move you like a pawn in a terrible game of chess, sacrifice you for the good of others, drop you from a building you should never have been inside, give you a disease that no one has ever heard of. Luck and chance are impartial. Fate is active. It picks on people. Almost as if it thinks about things too much ...

-Tim Lebbon, Face



The finale for RWBY Volume 5, or as I like to call it, RWBY: Hope and Triumph, airs January 20th for First Members, January 23rd for non-FIRST members, and January 27th for Everyone Else.

Remember, this wiki is a spoiler free zone. Please refrain from posting anything related to this episode until it airs for non-FIRST members, keep all discussions civil/polite, and allow me to say one thing......

Now, as the thumbnail seems to imply, Yang and Raven will not be fighting. (Good thing too, cause even without an Aura, Raven would easily demolish Yang) So, I can only foresee this meeting going one of five ways:

1. Yang manages to convince Raven to stop running and side with the heroes.

2. Raven escapes with the Relic.

3. Raven is somehow killed (Possibly by a still alive Cinder but I doubt she's coming back out of chasm just yet)

4. Raven tells Yang something about Ozpin that convinces Yang to join her and the two leave on their own, meaning no proper RWBY Reunion this volume (And before anyone decides too, do not start saying that the Reunion has to happen and that you are getting tired of waiting. I hear that enough from the creatures that lurk on tumblr)

5. Raven gives Yang the Relic and leaves. ......Okay, hear me out. Salem doesn't know Raven is Spring. Salem just wants the Relic, and believes Raven simply has Spring. While Raven's initial plan was to take the Relic and use it against Salem, if she were to give it to Yang, Salem wouldn't have a reason to chase after Raven. Watts himself said the Maiden's were only a means to an end, so it's not like Salem particularly cares for the powers. If Raven gives the Relic to Yang, who is with Ozpin's group, Salem won't have to chase after Raven. Question is, would Raven be willing to basically condemn Yang to death in her eyes?

Now, before the finale airs, I'd like to give my thoughts on Volume 5 so far. Volume 5 hasn't been the best of the Volumes, but it has by no means been the worst in my opinion. As the Raven vs. Cinder fight demonstrated, RT is getting better with their fights, its just been a bit of a slow burn.

While yes, RNJR+QO+WY spent most of their time inside their rental home, the Menagerie subplot was wrapped up alright, and the Raven subplot made me go from hating Raven to actually liking her. I still have my issues with her, but they're mainly routed in her faulty logic, but seeing as that was before she revealed herself as Spring, I'm not certain how much of that logic was her real opinion.

Weiss' character arc continued to progress and I've liked how much Weiss has changed from who she was at Beacon. Ilia's redemption may have been rushed to some, but I felt content with it, and I loved getting to see Ghira be a badass, and see Sun back to being a badass with his glorious Gunchuks. Getting to see our Compost King Oscar gain some skill, Watts in general, and hearing Mercury again are some other highlights.

If I have to give my honest to God's opinion on Volume 5, I would rank it #2. For point of reference, this is my ranking.


 * 1: Volume 3. Finally got the plot rolling, gave some nice moments for Weiss and Yang, Velvet's weapon being debuted (BTW, I hold no problem with her weapon, I like Velvet and the Weapon, I just ask that when she returns (And I know she will at some point, she'll probably return if they go back to Vale), they give her original animation when she fights, since I can think of some interesting moves she could do by combining weapons and fighting styles. And of course, some insight to Emerald and Mercury, and a nice final fight for good ol Roman Torchwick.


 * 1) 2 Volume 5. I've gave my reasons already.


 * 3: Volume 4. I'm gonna get some looks for this, but I liked Volume 4 primarily for the Ren and Weiss subplots. Ren I had merely thought was just "There" for the longest time, but getting to see some deeper character to him was something that made him rise towards the top of my favs list. Plus, him getting a nice little conclusion to his arc in the same volume meant it didn't drag on too long. Even with his arc over, he still has some relevance to the plot, and it was thanks to Volume 4 I started caring about him. With Weiss, it's a bit different.

Her subplot wasn't handled the best, since most of Jacques dickishness was told to us rather than shown, but it was nice buildup to the continuation of the arc in Volume 5. Had none of this been done, her arc in Volume 5 would seem more hollow. They definitely could have done better on it, but what we got was substantial for the continuation in Volume 5.


 * 4: Volume 2. Volume 2 to me wasn't necessarily too good. Because it felt like half a volume, which indeed it was. I'll admit, the fight with the Paladin and seeing Team CFVY in action was pretty cool, but it just seemed a bit uninteresting to me. For point of reference, I had first found out about RWBY through Crunchyroll, and binged the First Volume. When I saw Volume 2 was available, I liked it at first, but as it continued I began to lose interest, as it seemed to mainly be buildup, and not the good kind that can stand somewhat on its own like Weiss' V4 arc. I didn't end up even watching Volume 3 until after it had finished airing due to said lack of interest, and I kicked myself in the balls for not watching it sooner. Volume 2 had some nice moments, but seeing as it really was only the first half of the original Volume 2 (Volume 3 was supposed to be the Other half) it doesn't hold up as well as the later volumes.


 * 5: Volume 1. Yes I know this is where the series got it's start, but I don't find it as good as what followed. The voice acting wasn't that good, the run animation outside of fights was recycled for everyone, the infamous shadow people, and of course, Jaunedice and Forever Fall. Now, I like Jaune and all, but that four episode arc was a mess. And it actually almost got me to drop the show when I was binge watching. I got through it, but I told myself that on rewatches, I'm skipping those four episodes. This Volume I don't hate, but it is definitely my least favorite. I mean, this volume introduced Sun, Velvet, and Penny afterall, so of course I'd like it still.

If I'm asked to, I'll remove my rankings and put them in a blod instead. 