Talk:Cinder Fall/@comment-35585801-20180514171634/@comment-35585801-20180515002139

@ChishioKunrin @Super sayan swagger

We might have to end up agreeing to disagree on this, but a big bad that doesnt't do anything really has no difference from her not existing. I think that you guys shouldn't be doing RT's homework for them fleshing out Salem's motivations outside of what we currently know, if they haven't created a big bad that is useful or terrifying, I don't think it should be up to the fans to conjure ideas up for them.

Also, there are plentiful of examples of effective big bads who didn't just sit there and do nothing. Voldemort in Harry Potter for example was brought in halfway into the series so that he could terrorize the characters for 4 books straight. Thanos from the MCU when he finally does the dirty work himself is way more terrifying than when he was the purple alien in his chair.

What I'm trying to get at is the villain needs to pose a constant threat to the heroes or there simply are no stakes, and no I don't think sitting in a chair and laughing about how evil her plan is makes Salem any good.

But I could be proven so wrong and in Volume 6 Salem goes on her own Infinity Quest and I would eat my own shoe.

@73.anon.52

Honey, you need to sound coherent, or at least try to sound coherent. You aren't making any sense. You need to pay attention to what the arguments are and not what you want to say.