Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-23988593-20131002064714/@comment-173.58.106.118-20131002075709

Blazenwhiper wrote: So, just found this forum and i'd thought i go ahead and put out some of the things that i found troubling about this series.

One of the biggest problems i've found with this series so far is this

'''Point 1:Pacing. '''I know that we are only 11 episodes into the show but there is a very large gap between the action episodes and the "story" episodes. The action episodes are quite amazing. You can tell that a lot of effort is being put into the animation of the combat, BUT the "story" episodes on the other hand are being handled very sloppily. It seems that when the character have to converse with one another, that the writers are having trouble with keeping the conversations going.

When it comes to time management, Monty isn't handling it very well. The times before and after a battle are meant for more character development.

Point 2: Information. I've found a big issue here. The story isn't providing enough information about the character and their surroundings. Now, apparently people are getting information about RWBY from somewhere (most likely monty himself of course) But that is a problem in an of itself. You soundn't have to search for info about RWBY like, weapon details, character backstory, or information about the world itself. The story should be laid out properly, not force those that want to know more to search wiki's for things that might not even be true (since wiki's aren't know for their, *ahem* reliable information) This could all be done in 2-3 episodes with just the character telling their team mates about themselves. It would also be a way for the writers to maybe come up with more dialogue than 5 minutes worth.

For those thay say, " you don't know how hard they have work to make this" Yeah, Kinda do. I'm also making 3D animations ( nowhere near Monty's level) and have experience writing storys.

I do love RWBY, but there are a lot of things that need to be sorted out for this show to shine. Okay first off, I'm not going to bother with the Mordin voice for this post only. Temporary reversion to a fan voice.

I kind of want to see slightly longer episodes. And perhaps more seasons. I mean, sixteen episodes is not really enough to know the group. Velvet doesn't exist for almost the entire story (akin to Emile-A239 in Halo Reach) and when she does exist, she's only there for about five seconds. For episode length, maybe 15 minutes per episode would be nice.

Also, there are some contradictions. Ruby explicitly states that she wants to help and defend the helpless, but doesn't seem to notice what Cardin does to Velvet. Also, all members of RWBY have the EXACT SAME FIRING SOUND on their weapons despite said weapons being different models and assumedly different calibers. Yet they all have the M45 Tactical Shotgun's firing sound. While I might sound like I'm complaining, would it kill Monty to put in three different firing sounds for three different other weapons, like the MA37's firing sound for Weiss's Myrtenmaster, Yang has the M6G's firing sound and Blake gets the M392 DMR's firing sound?

Although this one would probably be impossible, could we puleeze have a cameo by Caboose? I just don't feel comfortable watching a Roosterteeth vid without him, I sometimes find myself thinking Ruby's going to say "Tucker did it!" or "I don't want to catch pregnancy!" at least fifteen times.

Character development is a big problem. First off, RWBY and JNPR are really the only ones with any real character development, seeing as the series is about them. Even then, it's a little vague. Ruby's parents are unknown, much like Commander Shepard before them, although Ruby does visit a grave, insinuating it's a parent or someone (I think this was in a trailer. Correct me if I'm wrong.). Weiss's parents don't seem to exist and they brought their daughter up VERY POORLY judging by her behavior. Blake, well, the "is Blake a Faunus" thing is something I'd like to see rectified, and what "Ninja's of Love" is about is something that would be interesting to hear about. Now Yang, well, this one's a hard case, on one end, she's got plenty of development (in both mind and body), but on the other end, she's pretty sterotypical, much like Tank Dempsey, Nikolai Belinski, Takeo Masaki and Edward Richtofen before her. She's the stereotypical "teenage girl", obessesed with a One Direction styled band, has posters of boys, likes boys (BlakexYang fans and YangxPyrrha fans beg to differ...) and generally is the super silly one. Lie Ren is unknown other than the fact he's not a morning person, cannot fight for very long, and has some sort of weird relationship with Nora. Nora's almost Yandere with Ren. Almost. And she has a grenade launching bannhammer to note. She also hates bullies, but for some reason isn't even shown breaking Cardin's legs like she suggested they do despite there being ample opportunity to do so. Pyrrha makes it clear she's the can do good and look good doing it person, and outside of being some Wonder Woman like person with an attitude who ENJOYS pinning Jaune to the nearest surface (with a Javelin like M1-Garand) and Jaune is the Caboose of the group, he's generally incompetent, but has a gift for something (leadership, while Caboose has engineering and driving I think.).

In stark contrast, Cardin and his group and Velvet have very little character development. Two of the members of CRDL are redshirts (soon to be, hopefully.) while the other guy has one word of dialogue. Cardin is really the only one who stands out. Velvet on the other hand, has only thirty seconds worth of material at best, and all of it is spent on being bashed around by a group of jerks, therefore giving her very little character development other than having an Australian accent (which I think is sexy). Ozpin sort of has little character development, other than knowing Uncle Qrow, being a coffee addict, and showing VERY LITTLE concern for the lives of those under him considering how he had the teams go into the forest (in fact, the only concern he shows is to tell them where they're going before launching them in.). Glyndia does better in this department, but outside of being seen with Ozpin, she reallly doesn't do much.

Now, concerning Blazenwhiper's remark on how the battles before and after incidents are, he/she is right. It should be the group develops a bond before the battle while making mission preparations, and then showing emotions and coming off of the adrenaline high afterward. Ideally, Ruby/Blake/Yang/Weiss could be conversing along the lines of "I hope this goes well, we need a plan, what's out there for us?", and afterward could be somewhere on the lines of "well, that was tough/piece of cake, I'm glad everyone is alright/I hope Ruby/Blake/Weiss/Yang will be okay". The same could apply for the other teams.

Now, they've said there will be romance in the story. I have not seen a single piece of formal evidence that there is anyone loves each other. There were the instances of Pyrrha showing concern for Jaune, but even then, it was because he was base jumping without a parachute and hitting on Weiss (more or less.). Well, I admit, Weiss warming up to Ruby was one piece, but that was more tsundere rather than actual love. Perhaps. I don't know. Now the one thing that I think stood out was Nora and Ren. Nora is almost yandere with Ren. It seems that where he goes, she goes. She even crashlands near him. Or at least close enough to say "Boop.". Doesn't help she's considered by elements of the community to be a psychotic biotic with a grenade launching banhammer. If she is yandere, it hasn't been shown other than following Ren around. Primarily because yandere is too...graphic to show. Just look it up if you don't know what I mean. Jaune and Ruby and Jaune and Velvet seem to be popular theories, yet again, no evidence.

Yes, there does seem to be a large gap. I mean, how did it go from being funny red glowing thingies in the background to Ruby and Weiss riding a sadistic flying chicken?

Loosely put, the main things that need to be sorted out are the actual evidence of romance, more character development (more Catherine-B320 and Jorge-052 character development, as in spend plenty of time with them) rather than little character development (like Emile-A239), and longer episodes. Just my little dissertation.

Of course, we're more likely to get this in the romance department unless Monty can somehow write out Romeo and Juliet in the space of a five minute episode while adding in Mindless Violence with Urdnot Wrex and The Oprah Winfrey Show all at once.

Either way we go, kudos to Monty for his dedication to the show. Keep up the good work.