Talk:Cinder Fall/@comment-27255656-20170519145557/@comment-25936766-20170519220710

@Mini: Experience is one thing. Age is another factor. Raven is at least 38 years old, while Cinder is practically at the prime of her life and Adam isn't much older.

Sure, a 40+ years old person can beat a person 10+ years younger, but in a general sense, by the time one reaches Raven's minimal age, the body has already lost a good amount of it's strength. And while she doesn't look too old, you can see Raven doesn't look like she's barely in her 20s.

And even on the Experience side, Raven might be a graduated huntress and almost twice Cinder's age, so she wins that side....

...but there's a related aspect: Polishing. She makes her living from pillaging and looting from villages that 98% of the time just can't match her or stand a chance at all. So it's not like her skills or strength is being refined over the years. Sure, Grimm are a thing, but as long as you're not an emo it's not like you're going to be swarmed daily just for being outside.

Cinder was probably trained by Salem to some extent and isn't old enough for those skills to rust. And Adam has to deal with whatever Atlesian protection the SDC has, from AKs to Lazer-firing Spiderbots. Even leaving aside how Cinder is now a Maiden, what skills they have haven't gone bad yet.