Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-44248215-20191113060242/@comment-24018437-20191116093701

Except what happened with Vacuo happened in that war. Again, your own headcanon doesn’t count as evidence.

I literally stated in my post that I don’t really trust either the USA or China. You’re putting words in my mouth. I am VERY well aware both China and the USA have their flaws, some of which are extreme and I condemn them both for it. Unlike you, however, I am not a fanboy of China, downplaying its crimes. If anything, YOU come across as the indoctrinated one. I aknowledge both countries did things wrong and have done terrible things. You downplay China’s and focus solely on the US, instead of looking at them both. Both are prettt shitty. Saying ‘USA IS A WARMOMGER!’ doesn’t suddenly make China better.

As for not knowing dark times...Wow. You really don’t know anything about Dutch history, do you? The Netherlands is quite familiar with all if that, either as the one’s being opressed or one’s doing the oppressing. My country, despite ‘being small and weak’ was once the wealthiest nation in all of Europe and was a major player (and still is) a major player in tr global economy. In the past, our VOC rivaled Portugal, Brittain and Spain and had a private navy and army large enough to keep nearly all of Indonesia under its control. We did the same thing in various South-American and Caribean countries. Even now we are the world’s second biggest exporter of agricultural products to many countries in the world, including China, Germany, the USA, Belgium and more. While we had our colonies, we did pretty fucked up things and even now the Netherlands are far from naive and unfamiliar with dark politics. Or were you perhaps unaware of the fact we also took part in the war against Middle-Eastern terrorists and like any side comitted very questioneble actions while there?

We are more then familiar with dark politics, despite our small size. On the other end of the spectrum, we also know opression. We fought for 80 years against the Spanish Empire for independence and were occupied by many other forces throughout history, most notable being Nazi-Germany. While our army was defeated quite quickly, we did have an extensive Resistence and were one of the first countries that openly protested and rebelled through strikes, which then became more serious and ‘underground’ when the Germans and Dutch police (who were then controlled by the Germans) began to use violence.

So we are quite familiar with dark politicus as you call them, on both ends of the spectrum. Next time you assume anything about my country, save yourself the embressment and do your research first.

As for Vale being blank...Yeah, no. As everyone pointed out, it doesn’t share anything important in common with China. So it doesn’t allude to China. From that logic, I can say my cat is a dog. It doesn’t look anything like a dog, but I want it to be a dog and therefore its a dog. See how idiotic that sounds?