Board Thread:Episode Discussion/@comment-25396609-20191130155818/@comment-44566359-20191208070636

Jonathan Mott wrote: Jinxxed15 wrote:

Hasn't Qrow beat himself up enough already? And what has he done to deal with all of these problems?

I was hoping you would ask about this. I'm a little moody right now, so if you get on my nerves, I might forget to hold back as much as usual.

Qrow hasn't been beating himself up. He's been running away from himself; forgetting himself. Drowning himself in drink. If platitudes and can-do attitude were enough to return him from the brink, he'd be right as rain by now.

You see the forest and ignore the trees. "You're a pathetic little bitch" is only a insult if you look at it the wrong way.

Why put in the energy to tell someone they're a bitch and pick on them if they're bitch? Surely it puts them beneath notice? There are only two reason to bother with such an act. One, one is a bitch themselves and is projecting I.E the real meaning of toxic masculinity. Or two, it's a device meant to help. An upaya.

There is not an insult and then an encouragement. Only subversive encouragement and obversive encouragement. Reprimanding a person isn't nearly the same as disowning them. Just think of the way Chichi abuses Goku as the stereotype of the domineering housewife. Her frustration at getting Goku to conform ironically seems to enliven the relationship, as so they stay together despite him being an absentee father.

The only real danger of this approach is that it might convey that Clover and Qrow are a bit too close, even if we assume they're destined to be shipped, because they'd be acting like a married couple after knowing each other for only few days.

The strength of a relationship is measured by how much shit the two can give each other without falling apart, not by how nice they are to each other. Niceness doesn't put any stress on the bond.

To answer your question from before, "Why does he have to be an asshole about it?" him being an asshole is just his way of being a good person: his version of what you're trying to do by labelling him an asshole!

So a more pertinent question is, "What in blazes do you think you mean when you label him an asshole?" The two questions are the same. Consider that your homework assignment.



"...he almost died travelling with JNRR and has felt more useless than helpful the last few seasons."

He's a huntsman. If you don't almost die constantly, you're doing it wrong. I almost die once a week, and all I do is ride a motorcycle. (And people still act surprised when I'm not intimidated by them online. Are you scarier than a sixteen-wheeler hurtling towards you a combined 100 miles an hour because you skidded into the wrong lane in the middle of a thunderstorm? I didn't fucking think so! Ultra instinct or death.) Every time you see a hunstman, you should imagine a person who's been through this and hasn't gone AWAL:

https://youtu.be/-ZYlXEUo-Lo

Which is exactly why, if Clover seeks to help Qrow, Qrow's failure as a role model must be acknowledged if he is going to cope.

Nothing is so corrosive to a man's spirit than pity because it suggests he can't look out for himself. In sweeping Qrow's failings under the rug, he's also sweeping away the responsibilities that make him an uncle, a huntsman, and a rolemodel.

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Let me throw some psychology your way...Clover's behavior in reaction to Qrow is considered re-enforcing. This is pointing to Clover's response to Qrow, "You shouldn't do that" in terms of this compliment you speak of. Throughout the series,​​​​​​ nobody has actually reached out to Qrow and validated him or affirmed him that what he was doing was right and the best for him and his team. Alcohol aside, Qrow has been there for team RWBY and JNRR when they needed him and "got them through it"(Clover). His low self-esteem comes from his lack of confidence within himself and from his semblance being a burden and hurting so many people close to him(which can really fuck someone up when they think about themselves that way) and furthermore, the fact that he doesn't know if what he's doing is right when it comes to RWBY and JNR going up against Salem and getting into this mess that he's been roped into for years. He wants to protect these kids and since Oz has been gone, Qrow doesn't know who to look for when he needs guidance.

To Qrow, it wasn't a compliment, it was Clover validating that what Qrow had been doing was right. Validation is something that every human being needs, especially when they have low self-esteem. Clover is just what Qrow needs. Someone fresh and who has a new and healthy perspective about Qrow and his place with his team. It's something that hasn't been given to him this entire series and probably something he hasn't felt since Raven ran off and Summer passed away.

My point is, is that the series is really putting an emphasis on mental health when it comes to grieving, overcoming hardship, and becoming resilient. It's a series that is unique because it is highly detailed with very little time inbetween episodes and seasons. Examples of this include  Jaune after Pyrrha was killed, Blake when Adam was hunting her down, Yang after her arm got cut off, and how Ren is still coping with what happened to him when he was little. Qrow is just another example and role model to those watching the series that ''it's okay to not be strong all the time or to not know everything. ''Jesus. Sorry you're disappointed about how Qrow is being treated? Men especially don't need to be kicked while they're down all the time so that they're stronger when they get up. Jesus Christ just help the man up. Lmao.

Yeah, he's a huntsman, but experiencing near-death experiences are different for everyone. Ever heard of PTSD? Yeah, this show covers a lot of mental illness and that's one of themes of this show. Glad you're okay with almost dying once a week, but that doesn't compare to fighting for your life like those in our military do every single day and their mental illnesses are much much worse than what you're complaining about with Qrow that the creators are depicting.