Thread:GreyStark/@comment-28288412-20170506220152/@comment-27404492-20170508221920

Ok, Vlad had impaling refined into its cruelest and very worst form.

And here's what I had to say about the stabbing:" According to accounts "blood and water flowed out" now you bleed why you're stabbed, that's pretty obvious, and theologians were baffled for centuries by the water part. But with modern medical knowledge we know that after the beatings and whippings he sustained (plus the actual crucifixion itself) Jesus would have been in circulatory shock, which would cause fluid (that would look like water) to build up around the heart and lungs) so at the very least the stab pierced Jesus' right lung and probably in his heart to boot.

And plus Roman soldiers were the ones who executed him. They would have been executed themselves if they had let him live so don't you think that they'd make extra sure he died? Especially after they killed the other two guys with him.

And your other explanations is rubbish. The disciples brainwashed a guy into thinking he was Jesus? Just what fuck? Seriously? Actual indoctrination takes months if not longer, and that's with modern psychological techniques (to any yanks reading, that's what the CIA spent your grandparents tax money on in the 60s). The resurrected Jesus appeared days after he died. (Btw his brother James was convicted by this guy and he only joined up after Jesus died). There another problem with this, the apostles didn't believe that Jesus was alive at first.