Board Thread:Off Topic/@comment-70.164.250.74-20180315191229/@comment-2001:8A0:D21E:E301:38ED:BDD3:B4F7:B3C-20180316191747

SomeoneYouUsedToKnow wrote: 1) No one has a good opinion on the WF. Not even the WF characters have a good opinion of it. Thing is, on the Heroes side, Sun and Weiss are pretty much the only ones that talk about the WF, and Sun only does because Blake talks about them even more, much of her characters is based around the WF and the "Faunus Discrimination".

The modern WF that Sun knows are violent racist terrorists who attack anyone as if it would help the Faunus look any better. It would be insane if Sun did not have a low opinion about them.

2) If you think that is bad writing on Blake's part, you're being quite idiotic. Plain and simple, iditioc. All you talk about is Sun being a creepy stalker, nothing to do with Blake. Thinking that Sun's behavior is bad writing on Blake's part is quite the Insane Troll Logic, in TvTropes speak.

3) His family is in Vacuo. It's not like a giant meteor fell there. It's only natural that he wouldn't be thinking much about his family for the moment.

With his teammates, it's a fairier point. Though at least with Neptune, his relationship with him is "Best Buds", instead of "I got a crush on you". He's closer to Blake than he is to Neptune. And to be fair, you can say the same about V1-3 Blake. RWY and Blake were best friends and all, but Sun was the one she showed any sort of real affection for beyond mere friendship.

It's not bad writing however. People in real life also care more about the people they love than the people they just get along with. The whole "stalking Blake across Sanus up to a boat to the butt of the world" is questionable, however. But Sun was never the smartest guy.

4) Did you somehow miss the scene where she literally slapped him in the face after their fight with the Sea Dragon? Did you somehow miss the scene where she slapped him twice in the face after he didn't stop being so intrusive?

Blake did not like what Sun did, at all. It was quite obvious. She tolerated it, however, because it was also quite obvious that Sun meant no harm, it was done with good intentions, and he simply did not know why she ran away.

Basically, he was an idiot, but not an asshole like Adam, he never swore to kill everyone she loves and all that. It's just that sufficiently-advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from malice. 1) But your point was that he would be more accepting. Why? Because he's a Faunus. If the WF are so bad, he should maybe hate them more than humans, since they make Faunus look bad. And they are clearly willing to attack Faunus too. Not only humans died during the fall of Beacon. And before that, Adam was willing to blow up a train, did he check only humans would be on that train?

2) & 4) I explained why it's bad writing on Blake's part. It's her fucking REACTION to it, that makes it bad writing. Seriously, a girl who has an obsessed ex-boyfriend who wants to destroy everything she loves sees no problem with a guy who is more than willing to make his life around her and follow her without her consent or respecting any boundaries? Really? Do you think a real person would act like Blake? "So this guy is following me, it's totally cool, totally not a red flag." Why the fuck are you ignoring my argument and trying to dismiss it as just Sun is a badly written character, so everyone else's reactions to him can't be badly written?

But fine, want another example: Blake's super paranoid in the beginning of V4, then suddenly she's not. And it can't be because she's in Menagerie, it seems to me Menagerie would have a lot more risks than boats, having WF members and all.

Slapping is bad and still doesn't undo Sun's actions. Adam was probably not always an asshole. At least, Blake clearly didn't always think so. For all we know Sun's Adam's beginning. I know it's not going to be because writers won't make it, but in real life, that romance would probably not end well and the fact that Sun stalked her should be completely unacceptable and not brushed off by saying it was done with "not evil intentions". Adam was probably not always evil and there were probably signs of his obsession with Blake during the relationship (maybe even before), and she ignored them all.

3) Not for a second I believe Blake or Sun are actually in love with each other. Also, still no reason to get on boat. Furthermore, Sun's family is in Vacuo and Sun was in Beacon when the fall happened. Seriously, family not a priority, especially when there's no communication between kingdoms? Seriously?

I get it, you like Sun. I've filled my quota of awful creepy actions trying to be passed as romantic since Orihime almost kissed a sleeping Ichigo even if that was done with "not evil intentions"