Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-25936766-20180111155239

The thing about Cinder and Jaune is that they have the amazing combo of Birds of a Feather + Opposites Attract. They have quite a lot in common while still having a pair of stark differences to spice things up.

Birds of a Feather:

1) They both got into Beacon via bullshit

>Jaune: Got his hands on some fake transcripts to get into Beacon.

>Cinder: Got her hands on some fake transcripts to get into Beacon.

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2) Tactical/Strategical Skillz

To quote Jaune's article in this very wiki:

"Jaune's most remarkable feature is his natural leadership. He shows these skills, quickly grasping the tactical situation, forming plans to work according to their advantages and counter possible threats. He's very aware of the capabilities of his team and is able to properly coordinate them into achieving feats that can give them the upper hand during an encounter."

As for Cinder? ....Exactly the same.

>After Roman started the Breach early and ruined the plan, and the Atlesian fleet set up in Vale, she inmediately adapted to the situation and cooked up a new, more effective plan.

>Took advantage of Emerald's Hallucination Semblance to defeat Amber and kick-start the Battle of Beacon.

>Took advantage of Mercury's prosthetic legs to trick people into thinking Yang broke his leg for no good reason, to increase panic.

>Took advantage of Neo's Ilusions in a similar way to Emerald, most importantly to get control of Ironwood's ship and release Roman so he could set the Virus on the AK's.

3) They both are the buttjokes of their teams

>Jaune....well, he's been a loser since forever, the resident butt-monkey. Vol1-3 aside, in Vol.4 we get Ruby laughing at him for having a bunny logo on his sweater, and in Vol.5 he once again gets called Vomit Boy.

>Cinder....the only people who really give her respect are Em and Merc. Back in Vol.4, everyone mocked her to hell and back and undervalued her beautiful keikaku. Watts snarked at how she was beaten by a kid, Hazel pointed out they've dealt with SEWs before, and Tyrian mocks her lost eye. They only stop when Salem steps in and uses her Ultimate Team Mom skillz.

Even in Vol.5, Watts doesn't really give her much respect, and neither does Raven - even after Cinder showed her that she was a Maiden - to the point that Cinder actually asks her to not insult her inteligence.

4) Similar weaponry

It might not be noticeable initially, but let's look at it this way:

>Jaune: Started using a Sword and shield. Got an upgrade, and now he only uses a Sword.

>Cinder: Started with a pair of Swords that can turn into a bow bow. Got an upgrade and recently, spent her entire fight with Jaune using only a single Sword.

Do note that they definitely are not forced to use just 1 Sword. Jaune still has the shield, Cinder proved she can make Javelins too. Yet they both choose to use 1 Sword.



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5) They both hate Ozpin due to experience

Alright, to be precise, Cinder opposed Ozpin because she was on Salem's side, though she does call him arrogant and says "she was right about you", so her short experience with him certainly didn't improve her opinion of him.

Jaune, meanwhile, there's his tone in his entire conversation with Qrow back in Vol. 4, complete with accusations like using Ruby as bait, at least in part because of how they "used Pyrrha". And then there's this line in V5E7:

Ren: ''You turned them… into birds. ''

Nora: ''Alright, now you’re just messing with us. ''

Jaune: ''(angry) What else is new? ''

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6) DETERMINATION

>As mentioned in his article, Jaune is quite confident, and has shown in the show he has quite the amount of determination, continuing to go after Weiss even after she had rejected him more than a dozen times. The only time he gave up was when he overheard her asking Neptune to the Dance.

>Cinder? She spent her entire screen-time in Vol.1-3 with a smile on her face, acting like nothing ever went wrong for her. Even when her plan seemingly failed when Roman caused the Breach too early, Cinder just changed her plan, so even when things go wrong, they never do.

7) The most important: They both wanted to Git Gud, get stronger

>Jaune: He wanted to be the Hero, he wanted to be a badass like his Great-grandfather was back in the Great War.

>Cinder: She said it herself, "I want to be strong. I want to be feared".

And both have definitely gotten stronger since Vol.1-3. Jaune is now worth something, Cinder now has full Maiden Powers.

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Opposites Attract

1) Opposite aesthetics

Leaving aside the obvious "Guy wearing Guy clothes, Woman wearing Woman clothes":

>Jaune: Dresses pretty conservatively. The amount of skin he reveals even without his armor on, is very small. Aside from that, he has clear aesthetics of a Paladin, particularly after he used up Pyrrha's weapon and tiara to get himself a fancier, shinier armor and sword. The blonde hair is what sells it.

>Cinder: Dresses provocatively, almost always sexy and rather revealing, as far back as her original outfit. Even her least revealing outfit - the Catsuit - still looks attractive. Aside from that, she has clear aesthetics of a "Dark Sorceress", with her dark outfits and excessive use of Fire. The ebon hair helps.

Even their weapons have opposite aesthetics:

>A simple, generic normal sword vs a unique glass sword.

>A shiny, white sword with golden edges vs a dark, obsidian sword with lava for aesthetic.

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2) Opposite styles.

>Jaune: Fights in pure melee, with either 2H sword in hand or Sword-and-Shield. He never does any fancier stuff, though Vol.4 implies he's on his way to that.

>Cinder: She's pretty versatile, even before getting the powers, using Dust, Sword and Bow as if she walked out of Fable or Kingdoms of Amalur. Though for the most part she sticks to doing fancy stuff with her powers, like a mage.

So, there. I'm sure I missed some stuff, but even then Jaune and Cinder have a lot in common. It's no exageration to say that Jaune and Cinder have more in common than Jaune and Weiss do, probably more than Jaune and Ruby.

While it's most certainly impossible, I'm sure they would get along if they just....talked. Just a casual conversation. 