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1) I still wish we saw more of their actual teaching. Maybe instead of Jaunedice they could have shown us a Mini-tourney as a means of building Team Cooperation and preparing for the Vytal Festival.

>Well, yes, but even then they still didn't receive a formal education, most of it was from more than likely Adam, and seeing as they did missions together, there is of course the hands on experience to account for.

>That seems to be a weakness of Academy Students in general, picking the wrong moment to either admire something, or trying a riskier move when it isn't warrented. Cause as you said, Yang was admiring her arm, Weiss tried to summon too many times, BRNZ gaped like idiots as JNPR talked, and NDGO just stood there in the water thinking they could take advantage of Neptune's fear, yet not even Nebula continued attacking, they just stood there.

Qrow and Raven went to Beacon to learn how to kill huntsmen, meaning they more than likely only went to learn how a huntsman acts, how they fight, and use that info against them. If it was just to git gud, then they should be sending all the younger tribesmen to academies. Just speculation, but Qrow and Raven probably had some experience beforehand while with the tribe.

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>It's reasonable personality wise, but makes little sense to me when I see her feelings for Cinder. Ruby has immense disdain for Cinder, for both causing Beacon to fall, and for killing Pyrrha. Yet Emerald, the one who got Penny killed and helped Cinder out with causing the fall, she still tries to convince. As much as it fits personality wise, it still doesn't make combat sense considering her attempt to do so left her wide open for Emerald to use her semblance on, which in turn gave Emerald an opening to strike. There is a time and a place to talk people down. The fight to save Haven shouldn't be it.

>That wasn't my issue with Yang. My issue was that '''you don't turn your back to the enemy in the middle of a fight. '''When Weiss got stabbed, she took notice, which is understandable, her friend being stabbed and all, but she also turned her back to Mercury. The only reason she didn't get a boot to the head was because Mercury chose to revel in her shock/watch the show. Or how when Cinder, Raven, and Vernal were heading to the vault, Yang just stood there gawking at Weiss and Ruby, and had to be told by Nora to go after them. And again, she had her back to Mercury, who actually took advantage of it this time and decked her. Both times she left herself wide open, and it would not do her any good to get herself injured too.

>No I don't expect Jaune to not rage at Cinder. However, considering he has seen the distruction Cinder is capable of, and has witnessed what happens when ones emotions control themselves via Ren, and considering his skill level compared to Cinder, I had hoped he wouldn't go for Cinder unless he was suicidal.

Don't misinterpret, I completely understand why Jaune charged at her, but don't understand why one of the first lessons at the school wasn't "Always try to keep a clear head", or why Jaune didn't think of that himself. His rage was justified and he wasn't thinking clearly, but I had hoped he'd prepare for something like this in advance after seeing Ren's little stunt and how it nearly killed him. He had to expect to see Cinder again some day afterall.

>I was specifically ignoring the teenager aspect due to the fact that other teenagers have shown to not do the same mistakes the "newbies" did.

Blake only tried to talk Ilia down when Ilia wasn't attacking or when she had Ilia pinned.

Ren only had his back to an enemy (Paladin during the fall) because he was exhausted, and when he lost his cool with Knucks, it almost killed him, something Nora was quick to point out and calmed him down after seeing Nora's distress.

Even Sun showed better judgement in True Colors, heading straight at Ilia and not holding back just because she was Blake's friend, and keeping her on her toes with his repeated switching, while also pinning her when her weapon was freed.

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I tried to refrain from too much speculating, only doing so with Adam as it seemed like the only reasonable explanation with his utter disdain for humans.

However in regards to Emerald and Mercury, considering Emerald already had her weapons when Cinder met her, she at that point knew how to fight, and Mercury having fought in the trees with Marcus and successfully win shows the same. Their joint image song, I'm the One, highlighted on the fact Emerald was and orphan, unloved, and had to steal to survive, and that Mecury was trained as a killer by his jackass dad, so it didn't seem too much of a reach to say they were not trained by the Academies.

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Yes, the Grimm can fight, but that wasn't my point. My point in calling them brainless is that they don't pose the same threat as that of Human/Faunus enemies. The Grimm do require teamwork sometimes like the Nevermore, but we've only seen three cases of Team Work against a singular Grimm: The Nevermore and Death Stalker from Player's and Pieces, and the Knuckleavee. In all three cases, the Grimm involved were massive and destructive, but they were pretty mindless, mainly just charging and attacking. It's like fighting an animal.

Fighting a person however is the more dangerous work though. People can think, adapt, strategize, whereas most Grimm seem incapable of doing so. The Villains are able to wreck the heroes shit because for the most part, they are both stronger than the Heroes and can actually think. My point in all this was that while they took on numerous Grimm, they had little experience taking on actually people, ones that aren't like themselves (Trainees)/actually malicious.

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Yes, I attend college, just finished my third semester to be exact. However, Beacon doesn't come off as a college to me. Beacon comes off as a center preparing students for a singular profession, one that is naturally dangerous. I could understand the dance, if it wasn't so close to the Vytal Festival, a time better spent, ya know, training. It would have been better placed after the Festival, as a way to keep the students spirits raised and congradulate them for their efforts.

(As for the Sap thing...... I honestly don't know what they needed the sap for. Glynda said she was escorting them because Peach asked them to collect samples, but what the hell were the samples for?)

I understand one doesn't just jump straight into field work, but considering that this school is teaching teenagers how to fight monsters with high powered weapons, you think they would try to balance the education with the field work so that the students are less likely to get themselves killed when they do fight, while also gaining actual combat experience. Like, for example, Port bringing in that Boarbatusk. Rather than make Weiss fight it just for the hell of it, why not use her fight with it as a learning experience, pointing out the weakpoints of the Boarbatusk as the fight continues, what mistakes she made during the fight, what she could have done instead.

The only fights we saw happen under the teachers instructions were the initiation, and Student v Student fights. (Jaune vs. the Ursa wasn't sanctioned) And while the Student v Student fights are a good idea in practice, not when the fights are only one on one. Real fights aren't always gonna be one v. one, but by only practicing using the method, the students become more accustomed to fighting in this manner. Look at the fight at the docks, the battles at Mountain Glenn, and the fights on the train. None of the students actually worked together.

At the docks, Blake jumped over Sun to fight Roman, and he jumped in when she got knocked back by Roman.

The Grimm at Mountain Glenn were mainly wiped out by each girl going for groups on their own. Everyone on the train had a solo fight besides Ruby, and only one of them actually won theirs, and even that one is under suspicion considering Roman had to be captured for the plan to work.

And like I said, very little of the Vytal Festival showed any teamwork, and the fights seemed to encourage solo fighting as the matches continued.

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2) Okay, remorse was the wrong word (I gotta get better at explaining my thoughts.), I should have said sympathy. He just says she lost her life, but has no hint of emotion in his voice saying it. She's dead and that's the reason Hazel is freaking out, you think there would be at least a little hint of sadness at the fact a child lost her life in a training accident.

Considering Oscar mentioned she knew the risks and Hazel visibly reacted, it doesn't seem too far fetched to think he could be reasoned with. Even in his rage he was hoping Oscar would forgive him of all things:

Hazel:  You can forgive me for what I’m about to do.

He is only that pissed at Ozpin, not Oscar. Oscar could have had the chance to try and talk him down, he'd just need to keep moving and avoid Hazel's strikes. The mere fact he asked for forgiveness means he doesn't like having to kill a child, and that there is still some sanity in his head. He just wants Ozpin dead. Had Ozpin not forced himself out, Oscar could have at the least tried. Then if that failed he could hand it over to Ozpin.

Yeah..... I don't really buy the memory claim. If that was true, Oscar shouldn't have had to ask Ozpin when he could have looked for the memory himself. Even earlier in Volume 4, Oscar only remembered what Leonardo's office looked like after being prodded by Ozpin. Before that he asked why he would know that, in other words, he normally doesn't have that memory. Ozpin had to dig it up for him.

And they don't share emotions yet. If that were the case, then the argument over Hazel wouldn't have been a thing, as they'd both have the same feelings on the matter. Nor would Ozpin being perfectly okay with touching a girl whereas Oscar gets spooked just touching one's shoulder.