Talk:Haven's Fate/@comment-37919963-20181225031343/@comment-26018514-20181225095004

You might do yourself better by listing to yourself what made the volume "good" or "better", then revisit V1-4 to see just how much more narrative they accomplished in less time, with shittier animation programs.

The fight animation hits its stride in Weiss's fight against the grimm, then nosedives until the battle of Haven... where it's only actually great again in the Raven V Cinder fight(and even there you can see another nosedive after a certain point), most of the episode long "exposition episodes", told us stuff fans literally figured out in previous volumes, then skimped on actually detailing the new information;

(Inferred previously):Raven can turn into a bird too... were we supposed to be surprised? Ozpin did it just like Odin had his ravens that we already knew the Branwen's alluded too. (New) Raven and Qrow volunteered for this... to kill huntsmen. (illogical leap) Ozpin is evil for giving these magical bird powers to volunteers without listed drawbacks aside from still keeping secrets from them.

^An entire episode was wasted on this, after being billed as an answer to most of our questions... time they could easily have spent on exposition about Raven's life in the tribe pre-maiden powers or how she met/trained Vernal, how Raven visited Yang as a child to witness Yang character growth...

There was SO MUCH PROMISE in V5 that in the end they just shat away with inconsequential scenes and underperforming dialogue in a season they actually padded with extra episodes yet had so many episodes where almost nothing happened... then they had an epic free for all where almost everyone had at least one instance of standing there as if waiting on cue while other people fought to the U MAD BRO?(because had they been fighting to the death they missed several Coup de Grace opportunities, even when character motivations/personalities say they should have taken them).