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Glitchee123z wrote: Except that there’s a difference between saving someone because you’re their friend and they also have friends (also maybe because you were indirectly responsible for their injury) and saving someone just because you’re in love with them.

I saw no such hints of the latter. I think there was absolutely a hint of it. After all, it isn't like Weiss was the only person in danger and the only person Jaune would be concerned about. He and Cinder paid particular attention to Weiss. Sure, that isn't as clear a hint as others, but I think it does speak to Jaune still having a soft spot for her.

73.Anon.52 wrote:

I take more issue with just how unwanted Jaune's behavior was the first time, and how cold Weiss was, having him show such chivalry despite his rejection is great and shows how worth he is... but doesn't show shit as for her worthiness in the relationship.

If they then get together later though... it cheapens his moment of heroism. Hold up, I don't think saving a person who rejected one's romantic advances proves anything about him except that he has enough character to be one of the hero characters, which all of them have and should show if this isn't going to get into morally gray areas. Jaune's unwanted romantic advances were initially a suitable karmic response for Weiss when she dissed him at the beginning. She mockingly talked about him to taunt Ruby and, in response, she got him pestering her as he was under the mistaken impression she was into him.

All that said, at a certain point he really needed to stop and didn't. He kept pushing well past the point when her rejection was clear. What showed his worth was telling off Neptune for not being considerate of Weiss. Saving her life is literally a thing he is supposed to do as with them all. The significance is more that it is sort of the final hurdle. Weiss was, rightly, critical of Jaune's competence at the beginning and, rightly yet somewhat less so, critical of his personality later. The personality thing was cleared at the dance and the incompetence thing was cleared at the end of Volume 5.

73.Anon.52 wrote:

Except it really isn't... look at the last Weiss scene she rejected him, then give me one example of a scene in which her attitude with someone outside RWBY changes... I can tell you right now, there isn't one I don't think that is true, but I also think it can be hard to tell sometimes. Weiss may have wanted to be leader of RWBY to prove herself (to Jacques), but what made her not leadership material is the same thing that means she is not going to show an obvious change in personality. She has always been reserved about her feelings and not revealing too much about herself. Part of that is simple pride and part of it is a long-instilled fear of showing weakness. This is one reason I think she doesn't do well in one-on-one fights. Weiss is overly cautious about her interactions with other people and that is largely a product of her upbringing.

Just look at her family. Her most healthy relationship is the one with Winter and Winter is like a softer version of Jacques. Weiss is probably the most soft-hearted and least judgmental person in that family of what we have seen. It is why I don't like when people say "she is more caring" as that was never the issue. Her problem was she cared, but was always too afraid to show it in any big way.

She is really the nicest character on team RWBY, but she is also the most reserved. Ruby is rude and prone to unprovoked insults or teasing. Blake is. . . I mean. . . she was in a terrorist organization. Yang will literally walk into a bar and squeeze a guy's crotch then punch him in the face without any real provocation. The difference is that all of those three will make a big show of niceness as well. Weiss shows it more in what she doesn't do than in what she does. It is more that Weiss will put things aside and treat someone neutrally, until they do something wrong to tick her off.