Board Thread:Speculation House/@comment-35941743-20190304195312/@comment-26018514-20190716223633

The Devil&#039;s Advocate WP wrote: 73.Anon.52 wrote: First off, these weren't just children, they were force sensitive, that leads to a little more agency than your normal child.

Secondly, this is a tested IRL philosophy...

I just find it incredible that people are all over me for saying Cinder ...

Is it misguided, yes, but it has a logic to it. Wiping out Vale, the least corrupt of the four kingdoms first? not even close... Salem's plan is at best scorched earth, not total control.

No amount of resentment legitimizes this.

Going after Vale first wasn't Cinder's plan, but Salem's plan... 1. You are comparing a character in the Star wars universe, which was built with a rich research into philosophy, to one in the RWBYverse

I can see merits into both Jedi and Sith codes because that was what GL intended, the Force is a nature/god composite and the 2 codes are meant to be religious zealotry that are both in opposition yet somehow serve a relative balance. Jedi actively seek balance while Sith seek power and utilize "easy" answers to existential crises that occur because their code makes them perceive the world in entirely how it pertains to them.

Irl we have all these questions too, that's the draw of these movies, it shows it from both sides, the Sith "answers" are just the douche answers no-one actually wants because while murdering everyone on a world to save the worlds ecosystem could work it's a pointless gesture as no-one can then appreciate it, but Sith don't care because they don't see the downside to other people, only to themselves.

Vader was not redeemed as you wish Cinder to be, he was only redeemed in his child/victim's eyes and by his god/father, the force.

2. Cinder has already shown no issue with breaking with Salem's plans, so that point is moot.