Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-28776596-20160913152557/@comment-69.138.248.186-20170228194608

Knightmarearc: Well the Cardin situation proves Jaune is willing to put his own feelings behind to do the right thing. I'm not sure how serious the wasp plan could have gotten considering Pyrrha had aura. If Cardin did plan this out well then she would have gotten seriously injured. Possibly killed if she was allegic to the stings. An underlining theme with Jaune's character is "don't hurt my friends." Cardin and Qrow push this button though their intentions were different.

Qrow was a part of a group that pressured Pyrrha into becoming a Maiden. How much he truly blames Qrow compared to Ozpin and the others isn't clear at this point. Part of his anger could be simply because Qrow is the only one present he can call out on this. Jaune actually had a good point about Qrow using Ruby since he's the one that let it "slip" that the trail went to Mistral. He was right to point out these things but he's not the sort to just let someone die. The way he instantly reacted to save Qrow was pure instinct.

I think that Qrow and him will have a more complex relationship going forward. Didn't he explain everything about the Maidens/Pyrrha? He asked if they had questions. Qrow was part of something very questionable and forced Pyrrha to keep it a secret. A secret that was clearly tearing her apart. Qrow doesn't come off too regretful at the campfire scene as he pretty much brushes off responsiblity saying Pyrrha made the choice. Of course he probably doesn't know how it affected her.

It might be part of the reason Ruby hasn't grieved properly too. I don't know about the ladies man thing but I think Qrow might be the trainer Jaune needs. Funny enough there was talk that Qrow might see a lot of himself in Jaune. They both crossdressed so that might be foreshadowing.

The Kakapo:

1.) What I meant by camparing Ren/Nora to Emerald is that they had similar backgrounds but still turned out differently. Jaune wasn't mad during his training he was sad. He got the chance to vent against Qrow and is the one that brings up loss with Ruby. The only time she verbally expresses her sorrow is when she tells Jaune she's sorry for bringing them along. Most of the time she's faking a happy outlook. Jaune has his team to mourn with while Ruby cries writing a letter. He's still dealing with it better than she is.

2.) So just the concept of someone turning is appealing? Why Jaune? I've seen others, for example, suggest Winter. Some have stated Ironwood is cracking or Raven might be desperate enough to save her tribe to the point she'd join Salem. Without having a reason for Jaune to turn or for them to want him the idea just doesn't work for me. At least I could see the Raven concept being somewhat possible.

3.) Jaune is super wary now and already thinks Ozpin's secret group is doing questionable things. Based on where we left off with the group he's the one that's most likely to be distrustful of people. Cinder, Emerald and Mercury all came from his school. That alone should raise an eyebrow.

4.) We don't know if he's being sincere or not. If Leo is being blackmailed or threatened to do what Salem wants Watts is being mocking. Because Leo has no choice other than being nice to agents of Salem. It would also depend on who he was talking to, I don't think he would waste his time on Jaune. Watts thinks Ruby is nothing and she has Silver Eyes.

5.) Maybe he and the rest of RNJR kept it bottled up until they came to a well protected villiage? Jaune started to stop bottling up along the way so it didn't work for long. I did wonder if the Nuck Grimm came to Ruby, Jaune and Qrow because of their negative emotions. Ruby was upset about endangering them, Jaune was worried about his team and Qrow probably was in a bad place emotionally.