Board Thread:Speculation House/@comment-12443850-20130808003319/@comment-4830106-20130811043056

@Hallucinia, I'm not about to quote all that. Just a few points I'd like to bring up:


 * Lord of the Rings did it first. I have made arguments in the past that 90% of Western fantasy can be realistically traced to Tolkien (I'm something of a scholar in that regard).


 * Grim cultists could still exist, even if the Grim will kill them anyway. In fact, that may be what the Grim cultists are after; they're doomsayers, and they see the Grim's ultimate victory as a "purifying apocalypse". The Grim don't care, though. "If it's human, wreck it" is pretty much their philosphy.


 * I get the sense that once they are introduced in full, the Grim are going to be very present as antagonists throughout the series. I can't explain why, I just don't think there will be that much open conflict between humans. By open conflict, I mean political wars, not crime fighting, etc. I also don't think there will be a lot of conflict with the Fauna, off a gut feeling.


 * I see what you mean about gratuitous fairy tales, but strictly speaking, there is really no such thing as an "original" fairy tale. I'm about to go history mode here, so I apologize in advance if I start sounding really critical: Fairy tales came into existence around the late 1600's in Europe, when literacy for average people was going up and they had more time to read. With more people reading, historians and like-minded people made a huge effort to recover folktales from all over Europe and put them in print, so that they would survive. Granted, they were sexier and bloodier (couldn't help saying that), but that's because they didn't originally pander specifically to children. And to be honest, children were way less sheltered back then than they are today, at least from my perspective here in North Carolina.


 * As to your speculation on RWBY's possible fairy tale origins, it's an interesting thought, and I admit it never occured to me to the depth with which you presented it. I'm afraid I must disagree, though, because while Monty (in his wisdom) said the mains were influenced by fairy tale characters, they aren't necessarily based off them.


 * Ok, one more thing and then I'll stop. The " Evil was here. Evil was defeated. Evil is returning" formula is contrived more from history than anything else (only I would use "enemy" instead of "evil", for objectivity). Example: Afghanistan. No one knows how exactly they do it, but Afghanistan has successfully crippled just about every single global empire in history (except the Mongols, because they cheated). But the way it works there is that centuries of being attacked led to the formation of a warrior culture. Said warriors would be all the rage after whichever invading empire finally rage quit, but over time, the number of warriors would dwindle, leaving only a few left who held on to the tradition. Predictably, enemies return, those warriors saddle up to go kick ass and chew bubble gum, run out of gum, you get the picture.

Yes, I'm aware how far off topic I took this thread, so I'll find something to get back on track with. XD.