Thread:GreyStark/@comment-28288412-20170506220152/@comment-25936766-20170507235448

Grey.....you disapoint me. These arguments are so ridiculous, they invite mockery. And you completely ignore my point about how faulty human memory is.

GreyStark wrote:

1- People were just as intelligent back then as they were now.

2-And people were claiming to have seen Jesus three days after he died

3-...So could I make up stuff about a guy, say that he came back from the dead, and convince his brother and about 500 people that they saw him.

4- The point I'm making is that his body, which was being guarded by Roman soldiers vanished.

5- Yes. People died for their religion all the time. But the disciples were eyewitnesses.

6-They knew the man they preached about. And if it was all made up they'd be the ones that made it up. Now do you honestly think they would all chose to died in extremely painful ways for something that they knew to be a lie?

7-40,000-70,000 people all misremembering the exact same detail. Really you honestly think that's the truth? Edit. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mM-LpZtkFxM Here's an eyewitness statement saying that it started before they looked at it

1-They were "just as inteligent"....but they didn't know jack-shit about many things.

2-Either fake memories or a look-a-like. It even happens nowadays.

3-YES. Because of what I said about fake memories. Not to mention how impresionable people were back then. You could write a tale about a bear being the reincarnation of Jupiter and they would believe you.

4-Or maybe it didn't. Maybe it was stolen and the guards noticed too late. Among many other things.

But speaking about his body, I recall slightly something about his body being found hidden inside a cave.

5-Eyewitnesses are not evidence of anything, precisely because of what I said about faulty memory. Suggestion, second-guessing due to lack of info, among other things, can make "eyewitnesses" claim to have seen something that did not happen, even if they claim it will full honesty.

And if you include other factors like how people were easy to make believe in something thanks to lack of science, and that they were his disciples, it becomes less and less solid evidence.

6-There's a huge hole in that argument: You assume they would've, in such case, known it was a lie. But what if they didn't? Read my 3rd point.

7-Eyewitneses are not evidence of anything, read point 5.