Talk:Necessary Sacrifice/@comment-89.181.236.135-20171110234620/@comment-27045477-20171111110705

> Actually, nothing in Sacrifice indicates anything about a desire to overthrow Ozpin, merely expose him with the help of mirrored (silver) eyes.

Exposing him means overthrowing him. Also "mirrored" doesn't mean "silver".

>   And it's definitely not Cinder's song, she was never a Huntress or was associated with Ozpin in any way

She was from Haven Academy. Leo covered up her transcripts. Where do you think she got so much combat training from? It fits her beliefs.

> if she was then he and Glynda would've recognied her in the Vault

Do you think Ozpin personally recognizes every hunter? Especially ones from other academies? Cinder's face is shrouded in shadow when she fights Glynda, and she uses smoke and fire to cover up her face in the V3E7 flashback when Qrow attacks her. Also, Cinder's hairstyle changed before V1.

> So Raven is the most logical choice, hopefully the upcoming episode (or possibly the one afterwards) confirms this.

No, it really isn't. Raven doesn't oppose Ozpin, she just wants nothing to do with his war because "it's too big for any of us". She doesn't make moral judgements of Ozpin, she simply ignores him and does her own thing, because she wants to avoid his war.

> There is nothing about overthrowing him or destroying him

It's all about opposing him. He's the secret ruler of the world. Opposing him is overthrowing him.

> only discord for how he does things and a refusal to be a piece of his plans. Which is exactly how Raven sees him.

​Raven doesn't give a shit. She doesn't make moral judgements of him, like there are in Sacrifice. Raven just does her own thing as a third party. She's not part of either faction.