Talk:Cinder Fall/@comment-26882656-20160226181911/@comment-26882656-20160226203723

Urano, That's not ice, Ruby isn't the winter maiden, Qrow said "could strike a Grimm down". Grimm, not enemy. There is no reason to assume it works the same way on humans as it does on Grimm.

...on second thought, if you truly believe Ruby has ice powers it would make even less sense. Cinder specialized in fire attacks even before gaining maiden fire attacks. She could easily overpower a newby winter maiden.