Board Thread:Speculation House/@comment-35941743-20190304195312/@comment-5430952-20190702000046

Bluethunder25 wrote: I wrote an article a couple of moons ago about how a Cinder redemption arc could work and how it would go. Just search 'Cinder Redemption Arc' and read it. Where? It's not on the wiki anymore, I tried searching and came up with zip.

The Devil&#039;s Advocate WP wrote: You know it is rather fitting that the "redemption means death" page on Tropes leads with an image of Vader. Want to talk about people who committed horrible acts that would normally never be forgiven, then talk about the guy who was a leader of the Space Nazis. Cinder pales in comparison. But Vader actually tried to redeem himself, Cinder hasn't so much as even tried. Heck, she's shown no inkling of any remorse for her actions, and trying to redeem someone who isn't sorry for what they did is severely misguided. And when an author does it puts the readers off, I was definitely put off when the Rosario Vampire manga tried so hard to make the remorseless Akuha seem sympathetic, even though she never apologized for anything she did. Heck they even tried justifying it in the last chapter, which literally screamed "author bias." It'll be the same thing if CRWBY suffers a massive stupidity attack and tries redeeming Cinder.

Megadracosaurus wrote: Sorry to remind you anyway: Thunder’s theory about how Cinder is redeemed is pretty much based on her ‘sympathic’ moments in volume 4...Which have been debunked and disproven (even by the show many times by now) Anything else is either based from a few seconds in openings, and the rest is pretty much all Cinder being OOC and bad fanfiction, like a rival Maiden who is somehow worse then Cinder (yet does pretty much the same kind of things as her, that being obsessed with power and killing innoscent people). It even involves Pyrrha coming back from the dead and forgiving Cinder for Christ’s sake.

His idea for the redemption arc is, unsurprisingly, garbage that doesn’t make any sense. Its even worse then his Adam redemption arc idea, which was already pretty bad. Wow, that's pretty bad, especially the bolded part. That, right there, is the ultimate in misplaced compassion, and I know Pyrrha is better than that. Alas, I can't say the same for Bluethunder, who actually believes his scenario is realistic. Says volumes about him, and not good ones at that.