Board Thread:Speculation House/@comment-184.157.23.183-20140208055601/@comment-4485275-20140717080028

Serialkillerwhale wrote: So far I'm just checking here, but whatever Cinder's up to, it's definitely something............evil. So far, the only real "Hint" to her goals is that shot of her with the jets flying by. My personal take on that is that she's an agent of some other "Rogue state" or quasi-nation, or even one of the major nations, to cause the collapse of Vale, possibly since it's an economic competitor, and those planes are the final invasion when the military and hunters are worn out and unable to fight back, also explaining the fixation on gathering dust, which could imply the other nation is relatively short of the stuff and wants to invade for the resources. To this end, she hires Roman, to gather dust, and puts out feelers in the black market, or something like that, for contraband dust. Given that Adam, who I personally think isn't just out for a simple train going boom, and would rather have it go boom at wherever the dust was to be offloaded, called off the job and instead looted the dust, and the White fang sold it to make up for the loss. This is how they get in with Cinder, but their aims differ.

Cinder: Collapse of vale, Invasion by other nation. Comparable to roughly half of a modern techno-thriller's main villains.

Roman: Get back at vale for what I would guess to be a rather uncomfortable prison sentence, line pockets. More or less a Criminal in it for cash.

White Fang: Genocide of humans (Including Cinder and Roman once they've become less useful), White Fang-ruled nation on the ashes of Vale, and possible future white-fang ruled Remant. Rough comparisons could be made to the Nazis, Imperial Japanese, countless terrorist organizations. Pre-redemption Magneto.

SDC: Keep Monopoly on dust, Keep society running through dust so money keeps rolling in, Expand to other markets. In short, what every corporation aims to.

Ozpin: Errr, Dumbledore-ish stuff I guess? Save Humanity from it's infighting and foil the bad guys?

MetallicArcher wrote: When you put it like that, I suddenly imagine Cinder like some sort of corsair for another kingdom?

Maybe Mengerie is a faunus ruled kingdom? But a rather poor one due to the war trying to turn it into a faunus concentration camp? Or maybe the place per se is naturally poor on recourses in general and they want to expand?

Cinder, as a corsary, would be in, maybe, not necessarily for the sake of the faunus but for the oportunities for her as a "business" woman since she can carry out her otherwise illegal activities.

And it would explain the White Fang accepting to colaborate with her, even if she is human, she is ultimately answering fellow faunus from a faunus ruled nation.

Serialkillerwhale wrote: Possibly, Mengerie would have the means: (Ie, leftover weapons from the last war) to invade a weakened vale, close enough, and would be a poor nation with more war materiel than resources (Sort of like what post USSR Russia would be without gas money) that would have the motive to do set things going. Cinder might even be a Faunus with her ears, tail, or whatever amputated for the role of being an supposedly human "Face".

Honestly, I just extrapolated all of this from "The White Fang are a terrorist group that lost focus on their cause, much like most real-life terror groups do and is now just driven by petty hatred", which is rather obivous given their reaction to the more peaceful faunus rights protest, and that one scene in the opening.

Glad to see others taking it seriously.