Thread:GreyStark/@comment-28288412-20170506220152/@comment-27404492-20170507220722

1. Do you want a none Christian source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus#Historical_reliability_of_the_Gospels let's me turn the tables. Can you find a source from that time that says that Jesus wasn't real?

3. People were just as intelligent back then as they were now. And people were claiming to have seen Jesus three days after he died and the centre of the early church was in Jerusalem until the city and the temple was destroyed by the Romans (Jesus predicted this btw) and guess who the leader of the church there was. James, the half brother (or maybe step brother) of Jesus. So could I make up stuff about a guy, say that he came back from the dead, and convince his brother and about 500 people that they saw him.

4. Yeah, apparently he learned it from the Egyptians

5. The point I'm making is that his body, which was being guarded by Roman soldiers vanished.

6. Yes. People died for their religion all the time. But the disciples were eyewitnesses. They knew the man they preached about. And if it was all made up they'd be the ones that made it up. Now do you honestly think they would all chose to died in extremely painful ways for something that they knew to be a lie?

7. Fatima is close enough to Portugal for the observatory there to have pick something up.

8. They went there to ridicule to believers. Some of them were soldiers sent to stop people going there. And there's also the people who were miles away who claimed to have seen it. Including atheists. Seriously, the mass hallucinations thing always falls apart because of this.

40,000-70,000 people all misremembering the exact same detail. Really you honestly think that's the truth?