Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-4444715-20190406160119/@comment-4010415-20191113010217

Kaitryona Acheron wrote: 1. I think that the main consensus is that RWBY has steadily declined in quality in recent years. This site doesn't really reflect that because it attracts the most enthusiastic fans by its very nature. But if you take a tour of more neutral sites on the internet, you'll find that people tend to be upset with the current direction of the show, rather than satisfied.

2. The first being that the dialogue is objectively lackluster. To be fair, that's not new; it's always been lackluster. But it's easier to get away with bad dialogue when the show is upbeat and funny, than when it's dark and serious. That was always my concern with the tone change.

3. The other thing that I'm not happy about is the rise in fanservice in recent volumes. A lot of the writing in this show seems to be purely a reaction to the fanbase's desires. The fanbase wants Bumblebee? They get it. The fanbase hates Adam? He dies. The fanbase wants Neo back? Yep.

4. And on the flipside, the writers of this show have completely lost the nerve they had in V3. Part of the expectations that come along with changing the tone dark is that the tone has to stay dark. 1. Fair enough. To be honest, a large portion of the people who hang out here on the wiki were massively dissatisfied with Volume 5, so I can only imagine what that says about that volume. Volume 4 was okay but pretty weak, and Volume 5 just about killed us.

For me, the feeling in the period between Volumes 5 and 6 were just like the period between Volumes 2 and 3. After Volume 2, I could've left the fanbase, and I couldn't get myself excited for Volume 3, no matter how much Miles and Kerry hyped it up. But then Volume 3 came, was awesome, and hooked me back on the show. After Volume 5, I had lost faith in the show again and was afraid to get hyped for Volume 6, but then Volume 6 came out, and I found myself genuinely enjoying the show again. I just hope that's not going to be a trend where the show's quality rollercoasters like that.

2. Yeah, most of the time, I can stand it, but like... in Volume 7 Episode 1, there's this bit that just made me cringe:

Nora: I can’t tell if I completely understand what’s going on or have, like, a million questions.

Pietro: (on his way back to the pharmacy) And thankfully, I have about a thousand answers. But let’s get out of this weather first.

Maria: (following Pietro) I have absolutely no idea who that child was. Is she important somehow?

Jaune: That was unexpected.

Ren: Never a dull moment.

Qrow: But I wouldn’t say unwelcome.

Please, just cut that out of the episode. It is awful​​​​​​​.

3. Actually... I wouldn't be surprised if Bumbleby and Adam's death were already planned to happen from the beginning.

Though, to be fair, the only reason I believe Bumbleby was planned from the beginning is because, at the beginning of a pre-Volume 1 livestream, we had this happen while Arryn thought the camera couldn't hear her:

Arryn: And can I mention… that my uh… my character and another character (mumble mumble, possibly sounds like “are in a lesbian relationship”)?

Miles: No, absolutely not.

They really, really, really should've developed Bumbleby better, in that case, instead of focusing so much​​​​​​​ on Black Sun.

As for Neo, to be fair, Monty added her in at a very late stage in Volume 2's development, which is why she's mute. He decided that Torchwick needed an assistant, so he added her in and threw together the scene of her helping him escape in Painting the Town. That's also why she doesn't really do anything at the White Fang rally and why no one interacts with or even looks at her during the rally. She wasn't originally there.

4. They never intended for the show to stay dark, so take that how you will. They said in a pre-Volume 4 Q&A that the show will have its light and dark "just like real life".