Talk:Cinder Fall/@comment-24834640-20180620211231/@comment-26018514-20180621024440

Except Cinder was a noob because Cinder IS a noob... Raven has several years on her and isn't cocky with her powers, generally shunning their use entirely, Cinder meanwhile has grown utterly dependent on them and become cocky since she killed skilled fighters like Ozpin while using her powers.

Cinder is also kind of a bitch... she literally craves powers she had no right to enough to kill a person just because they had them.... and Amber was a NICE person. While Raven has the same background to a degree, we still cannot definitively say that the maiden she killed wasn't killed by her own request nor that Raven wanted her powers for herself(because Raven certainly does not want them right now), but rather that she wanted them to go to someone who could handle them within her tribe.