Talk:Ruby Rose/@comment-10556445-20160621035924/@comment-25936766-20160625172926

@Spidey: 1-I like the idea of adding small hints here and there during her fights. Though the whole "taken to Ozpin and being told letter by letter what she is"...part of me likes it, part of me doesn't. I do believe she would call Qrow in such a case though. She seems to care about him far more than she does about Tai.

2-Her idealism has never been framed in a negative way, never. Except by Roman, at the very end, and even then it was just to give him a cheap ironic death.

Also, a Mary Sue is a lot more than just being "invincible", do you even know what Mary Sue means? Being invincible is just 1 trait, that "archaic" definition only lists some traits. But just like with diseases, having some traits doesn't mean one is a Mary Sue. Even being "invincible" doesn't make someone a Mary Sue on it's own. They don't even need to be the protagonist or deuteragonist.

Why do I say she's a Mary Sue? For starters, she's a prodigy, trained personally by a recognized-by-Ozpin badass, and even becomes a leader despite not being ready for it. So far, it's fine...until it's revealed she's part of a group of unique, extremely-rare individuals never-mentioned-before, with powers so powerful even the Grimm fear them, capable of 1-hit-KOing the Dragon and a Maiden.

That in itself is what turned her into a Mary Sue. I'm hoping Miles will rectify it in Vol.4+.