Board Thread:Speculation House/@comment-14138255-20141031002615/@comment-9090085-20141031052158

136.224.215.68 wrote:

I personlly thought it was a good episode, but I think the reason why the majority of you are dissapointed is that the awesome fighting happened up front then was followed by what nearly everyone hates about politicians, and what seems to be Cinders plan proceeding thus making this feel like a hollow victory. No, I actually liked the politics(which is funny, 'cause I normally don't). What made this fight feel disappointing to me was that it was noticeably clunkier then the fights in the last episode. The larger Grimm also went down a bit easier then I expected; they probably could have gotten away with having fewer of them to have more time spent on each killing 'em(like keeping the Nevermores around man-sized instead of magically turning Players and Pieces-sized when Coco shot them). And no people were being saved - made the city feel kind of lifeless. What kept it from being bad was the music, which was awesome.

136.224.215.68 wrote:

Also I think Zolnir did a good job earlier, pointing out how likely General IronWood is going to be placing alot of Androids and Paladin's around that could later be hacked to fight for Cinder's cause. Heck the fact that we'd see Cinder calling it "All in All" a success shortly after IronWood becomes the new Head of security (I think it's the same day as when the grim attacked and Ironwood was promoted) which makes me think she actually was listening in on Ozpin's discussion with the council. All transmiision to and from Beacon and whstever intel they have may now be compromised. He did, and so did you; but I have something to add:

Ironwood really only grasps one strategy: Crush the enemy with overwhelming force. Which is fine if the enemy force is smaller and willing to fight you head-on. WF may be the former, but Cinder is not the latter; she'll wait until Ironwood's distracted and stab him in the back.

Remember what he wanted to do in Field Trip? "send as many troops as we can into the southeast", as in almost all of them?

What might have happened if he did? He'd probably spend a day or two searching Mountain Glenn, find nothing, and proceed to scour the forests and deep caves of southeast Vale; losing dozens upon hundreds of AK-200s, and probably some of those not-Bullheads, too. Meanwhile, Roman and the WF finish loading the train, and head out on schedule. Having not lost their "cargo" to boarders, I could see the AP-290s causing serious damage to any response force before being destroyed, allowing more Grimm to pour in - doubly so since the Atlesian Air Fleet would be nowhere near, having flown off on a wild goose chase.

Sure, it would have gotten cleaned up, but it would have caused a lot more damage.

Which brings me to what might happen during the tournament: The WF launches a diversionary assault, and Ironwood sends almost the entire security detail to fight them. Cinder and Roman, having "infiltrated" into the ideal location to strike, make their move while Ironwood's back is turned.

Bam. Evil wins.

(PS I had to re-write this post because the wiki had trouble loading)