Board Thread:Episode Discussion/@comment-34633327-20171201215836/@comment-34633327-20171203091716

73.Anon.52 wrote: KingFubuki92 wrote: While Ilia does have qualms with hurting innocents, anyone else believe the only possible way for her to redeem herself if the Redemption Equals Death trope? Or does anyone think she can redeem herself another way, or does anyone think she is beyond redemption period? I don't think she even can redeem herself with that trope... Blake's character developement seems far too invested to her characters redemption for her to die, especially as the other half of her development is about trusting others and learning to trust.

So are you saying if Ilia were to Redeem herself, she'd have to live, or are you saying that redemption by this point is impossible?

BenRG wrote: 1. In my view, Ilia has made her choice, driven by jealousy, alienation and self-deceit. Now there is hell to pay, not just for her and for the Belladonnas but for all of  the people of Menagerie.

2. The Faunus Civil War has begun.

3. Prediction:

Ghira is going to get killed and Blake is going to find herself the effective leader of the moderate faction of the White Fang, such as it is. Ilia will get back to her boss, minus an arm or an eye and Adam, being Adam, will kill her as she reports to him for 'failing' him. 1. ....Uh..... Isn't that a little over the top? She wasn't Driven by Jealousy, she was using her feelings for Blake as an Example of Blake not knowing her like she thinks she does. And how does Self-Deceit play into this?

2. Plus, this isn't a Civil War, right now this is a Terrorist Attack on an Island Leader, a small attack if any since we only saw about 3 mooks and the Albain's attacking the Belladonna house, and soon Yuma and Ilia will be joining them. For it to be a Civil War, it would have to two opposing sides of the same area but equal in amount on each side. Otherwise, it's more like Anarchy. The WF don't represent half of Faunus civilization, we don't even know how big their orginization is member wise.

3. There is no moderate faction. The White Fang is currently one entity, and Blake wanted to take it back, but no one on Menagerie is supporting her goal aside from her parents and Sun. If Ghira were to die, Menagerie would more likely panic while Blake, Sun, and maybe Kali all go to Mistral. If Ilia were to go back, she wouldn't be missing a limb unless it was an accident, since neither Blake nor Sun seem willing to dismember people, and I don't think Ghira would go that far. And if Ghira is dead, Ilia wouldn't have failed him, she would have succeeded in half the mission, which was killing Blake's Parents, Kali may have survived but Ghira would be dead. And Adam want's Blake to suffer, so that too. And Ilia wouldn't take the blame for Blake escaping as Trifa and the nameless guy were the ones who let her get away.