Board Thread:Episode Discussion/@comment-34633327-20180105193053/@comment-34633327-20180107020113

2001:8A0:D212:101:3160:38A2:D9F6:43B6 wrote: 1st) You don't get to define family for Raven

2) Why would the tribe be there? Yang alone took most of them down easily. They would be worse than useless. Also, by that logic, soldiers who go to war don't have families at home, because if they actually were a family, they would be there fighting with them

3) Honestly, I think Raven dying is a possibility, especially because I can't really imagine Cinder dying just yet, since Salem's faction is not that big.

4) And I'm still wondering why the good guys didn't take more allies with them to Haven academy 1) Opinion dude, I wasn't defining for her.

2) I said that because even if they suck ass, you think they'd stand by their leader rather than just hide. And no, that logic is completely ass-backwards. I'm saying Raven's biological family, namely Qrow, actually tried to reach out to her at one point and are fighting for what they believe in, even if it contradicts her own. Even Ruby, the daughter of her former teammate and her own daughter's half sister, a person who should have every reason to hate Raven for abandoning Yang, tried to get Raven to join them. Meanwhile, all of Raven's tribesman not named Vernal are missing, either running with their tails between their legs, or dead. Soldiers who go to war not only do have families, they have two. Their biological, and the men they fight alongside. But who is Raven fighting alongside? Just Vernal. Vernal is her family. Qrow, Yang, Taiyang, they were her family, and if she cuts the crap and lives through this, they can be it again.

3) No one is saying Cinder has to die, but she isn't gonna win. She is much less experienced with her powers, and her only tricks, her dust manipulation and her Grimm claw, have both been shown to Raven. Raven on the other hand has not only at most a decade more experience (Keep in mind Maiden's have to be young women and that the prior one left 10 Years ago, considering Yang's age and the idea Raven gave birth to her as soon as she graduated Beacon, than Raven was 21 when Yang was born. 10 years ago Yang was 7, meaning Raven would be about 28 at the earliest when the former Maiden ran off, and if the final age is 29-30 before she can't get the powers, then Raven has 9 Years of experience using that power!), she also has her bird form (a much smaller, faster target that Cinder will probably have a harder chance hitting), and her semblance as a last resort to warp away to either Qrow or Yang, who she knows is right above, while Cinder would have to chase after her. Cinder is not going to win, and if she does, I call bullshit.

4) They didn't because they couldn't. All the huntsmen Qrow went searching for were killed by Hazel and Tyrian after Leonardo gave away their locations. None of the students could be recruited as they had no clue where the hell any of them live, and they'd have to wait till the first day of the semester to see them, the literal day after the attack. The only reason they had who they had was because Qrow was shadowing RNJR and Mistralian Ships found them in Kuroyuri, Ozpin convinced Oscar to go to Mistral, and because Yang and Weiss met by chance and convinced Raven to send them to Qrow. All of their involvement was pure luck, ironic considering Qrow's semblance.