Board Thread:Episode Discussion/@comment-24993958-20161119160425/@comment-5426254-20161120062047

ChishioKunrin wrote: Gundam Legilis wrote: 1. A) First, after a PTSD-induced nightmare about her arm, she is able to take an arm-related joke moments later and laugh about it without any fear whatsoever, even though it should've sent her into a panic, with the arm as a trigger word. Keep in mind this is before the pep talk and

B) learning that Ruby's away, giving her the need to fight again and make herself useful.

C) Looks to me that some parts of dealing with her depression seems suspiciously quicker than expected.

2. Second, for all of Raven's talk about protecting the Branwen bandits, it appears that she is actually damning her tribe into extinction. In Remembrance, it is implied that the dying Huntsman said that the Grimm slaughtered not only the Shion/Xione villagers, but also the entire bandit force, save for Raven herself.

Now, it would make sense if she dismissed the casualties as weak, according to her Social Darwinist philosophy, but, it is implied that she gave a damn about the tribe as a whole, so what's up with that? 1. A) I don't think PTSD quite works like that. If I go up to a military veteran amputee and say "arm", they're not going to fly into a panic and go "OH MY GOD MY ARM IS GONE HOLY SHIT AHHH THE BOMB"

B) She didn't learn that Ruby's away. I'm pretty sure she already knew that Ruby was gone. What gave her the need to make herself useful again was learning that the whole reason Tai didn't go after Ruby is because he felt that he needed to stay home and take care of Yang. She realized she was holding him back from looking for Ruby.

C) It's been 6-8 months, dude! She's been sitting on her ass feeling depressed for 6-8 months! It's only quick to us because we're just stepping in after all that time and haven't watched her for the entire 6-8 months (which would've been boring).

2. I didn't hear anything that implied any of the bandits got killed, honestly.

Like JSnider said, the Huntsman said that the Grimm came in because of the villagers panicking, but he never said that the bandits got killed.

Also, JSnider, Qrow was talking about the damage that the bandits did to Shion Village, not the damage that the Grimm did to the bandits.

If the entire bandit tribe got wiped out, Raven wouldn't say "I'm their leader now" because there wouldn't be anyone to lead. As for Point A, the problem this scenario implies is that PTSD is something that can easily be gone away in a matter of moments, which is also inaccurate. It's the implication. Second, compounding this is that we're not sure exactly what time this episode is in; is it during the 6-8 months, around the time Ruby was fighting the gorilla in the character short? Or is it after? Besides, assuming it's after the 6-8 months, she's still suffering and hasn't made the slightest amount of peace with the fact, with emphasis on slightest (I'm aware that this memory will haunt her for the rest of her life), and yet, she can laugh it off as if nothing bad could happen to her.

I'll concede Point B to you, since it was poor wording on my part.

Point C: I am aware that Qrow knows. I am smart to assume that Raven only sent off a looting party to Shion/Xione. It is not clear as to what the finest details went on once the Grimm arrived. Did the Grimm only attack the villagers? Or did they attack the entire looting party and left all except for Raven dead as well? The dying Huntsman's final words make no distinctions as to what happened next. That's a poor choice of words, because it implies, everyone, bandit or villager was killed when the Grimm set their sights.

If the entire looting party was dead from the raid, and it happens frequently, then yes, she is essentially damning the entire tribe with this hypothetical scenario, and the resulting failure rate, compared to other average bandit gangs.