Talk:Cinder Fall/@comment-35585801-20180514171634

I think there is not much value in discussing whether or not she is dead because Cinder is definitely not dead. Here's why:

1) Commercial suicide. RT spends tons of money animating these characters, heck the Cinder vs Raven fight probably blew their entire Volume 5 budget, if you were to spend thousands animating these things why not just kill her off definitively? Sword through her chest would be much easier than having Raven thunderbolt her face. Why be ambiguous about her death unless they wanted people to speculate on it between the seasons? RT has shown that it is not below them to kill off characters definitively. Case in point: how about a quick and easy death by incineration? Or death by black Big Bird? Cheap and cost effective.

2) Narrative suicide. Let's consider the option that she's dead. So on one side we have Oz reincarnated, four characters donning plot armor, oh and all the kids from whichever military academies left versus Salem who we havent seen do anything yet (Salem is the most disappointing big bad since Supreme Leader Snoke), Salem's 3 other sidekicks who have zero development and were incompetent even against kids and then she has some faceless monsters. Not very exciting. I would even argue that RT NEEDS Cinder back just so that they have a legitimate narrative threat versus the heroes.

3) Further development forward. This in no way means redemption. But the possibilities of moving forward with Cinder being alive are just more interesting than her being dead. Cinder struggling with her humanity, Cinder struggling with her revenge and power, Cinder going rogue against Salem heck choose one. Any one would be more interesting side plot moving forward.

TLDR; she's definitely not dead so why not explore something of value like where the story goes if she comes back or something.