Board Thread:Episode Discussion/@comment-4141313-20181229081856/@comment-25936766-20190110024432

BlizzardDragon wrote:

1) The only argument I've seen for Merc and Emerald being irredeemable is their helping the fall of Beacon, but even then, I respond with Emerald being emotionally manipulated by Cinder, her actually seeing the fall as sad, and Mercury suffering from what Tyrian said.

2) It just seems to me like Cu dying in Carnival Phantasm. She died, kay. She's gonna come back anyway. So no point in being like "Ooh Emerald this is unforgivable you crossed the line!" 1) Thing is, there's being "emotionally manipulated" (which is debatable if Cinder even actively did it instead of merely taking advantage of Emerald's "NOTICE ME SENPAI"ism), and there's not giving a damn about it.

And "seeing the Fall as sad" is debatable since her one-and-only line about that can also be seen as her being condescending towards the people running in panic and all.

As for Tyrian....he's a generic psycho who never makes any sense and loves to antagonize people, I wouldn't pay much attention to what he told Merc.

2) Thing is, Lancer dying in Carnival Phantasm was a running gag. Penny's death is most definitely not a joke.