Talk:RWBY: Amity Arena/@comment-35455126-20180505223046/@comment-10380701-20180507004706

FGO and FEHeroes are bad examples of bad gacha systems tho. I played FGO for 4 months without paying a single cent, I still destroyed one of the superbosses of a recent event.

FGO is absolutely doable without relying on the 5*s and the only reason you want to shell out the munnies is for waifu factor. Sure, there are some absolutely monster-class rare 4* and 5*s that can make the game easier, but you can totally clear all story content with just a set of 1*-3*s. To top that off, you get free 4*s by participating in some events, and those 4*s tend to be extremely high end, some even surpassing some 5*s in utility.

FEHeroes is a little worse in that regard since 5*s are allegedly an absolute must, but you're guaranteed a 5* once in a while allegedly(?). They also have better drop rates than FGO.

That said, it's still gacha so you'll eventually shell out money once you run out of farmable gacha currency. It's just not mandatory to roll the gacha. (That said, it IS absolutely necessary to roll the gacha for your waifu.)

My point is it's entirely possible to run F2P without getting fucked in those games by RNG, so if RT wants to make Amity Arena good, they have to make F2P viable, while enticing the P2W with good shit to make things easier. F2P just has to play smarter than the P2W, who can streamroll through everything.

Lootbox is still lootbox, but it CAN work if you fail to get what you want, but what you get is still viable.