Board Thread:Speculation House/@comment-35941743-20190304195312/@comment-14909251-20190714215928

Glitchee123z wrote: So what if it was necessary? It still doesn’t make it any better, if not it makes it worse. It proves that Cinder is willing to kill anyone without remorse if it means completing her mission. Are you seriously suggesting it would be better and Cinder more redeemable if she killed people without any necessity?

73.Anon.52 wrote: Exactly, the intent of the plan matters, Vaders at least had altruistic goals(get immortality for loved ones, sacrifice few for the many, etc...) Cinder's are purely destruction and power for their own sake. You're going back to the prequels, where he slaughtered a room full of children who did nothing wrong at all. How on Earth do you think Vader is more redeemable for that than Cinder is for killing a handful of people and being part of a plan that may lead to a lot of deaths?

Wilfred J. Pemberley wrote: That's the thing that's so frustrating about Cinder as a character. All great villains have a way of convincing themselves that they're the hero of their story. Vader's heroic motivation is obvious. But Cinder just baffles me. I don't know how she even could convince herself that she's a hero. She seems to relish being evil so much, that she's fully accepted her role as the bad guy in this story.

And this is exactly why I hope RT doesn't keep her around as the main villain for the entire series. It would be better, in my opinion, to have her usurped by a new villain, one who has heroicly mislead motivations, and preferably one with an interesting personality. Keeping Cinder around as the main antagonist throughout the series would severely damage RWBY's legacy, because villains often define the success or failure of a series. And Cinder is an objectively terrible villain. Thing is, we know literally nothing about her backstory. We know she wanted power and if you pay any attention to that scene it is clear there is an element of desperation involved. Obviously, they are holding back on telling us her story for some moment when they think it will have the most impact. It annoys me when people say she wants power for no reasons or wants it for its own sake, when we don't know a thing about her history. For all we know, she may have legitimate resentment against the Kingdoms.