Board Thread:Episode Discussion/@comment-4141313-20190119003858/@comment-25936766-20190124223124

BlizzardDragon wrote: 1) Why would Argus be on Atlas' portion of the network if its on Anima, and they have an ocean seperating them?

2) Also, I call bullshit on your bullshit claim. Anima is directly above Menagerie with less ocean between them compared to Argus and Solitas.

3) Hell, Yuma was used to demonstrate why letters and messengers are unreliable since he killed the one Ghira sent.

4) We've seen how they're unreliable too. Remember that letter Ruby mailed to Yang in No Safe Haven? There is no indication either Yang nor Tai received the letter.

5) The point of Haven is why they didn't just up and call to ask about Cinder and Co....

6) I think you're forgetting the time aspect of the equation. Working in Argus require they waste time. Also requires they remain in Argus for an extended period of time with a Grimm Magnet, and being stationary leaves them a target for attacks.

7) Right now, no one is allowed in Atlas unless given the express permission of the council, and since Cordovin....

8) ...Shiro's tab cost less than what Qrow drank during the Vytal Festival, and Shiro's tab was 16 Grand. So Shiro's debt wasn't that big if it was less than what Qrow drinks regularly. You make a fair point, especially at the end, but.....

1) You are assuming that the local networks cannot overlap, or that each network strictly covers their resident continent and not even an inch the water surrounding them. Which is quite absurd, that's not how these things work. By that logic, americans would never be able to visit european websites and vice-versa.

The ocean between Argus and Atlas doesn't matter that much, especially because of the relay towers that are still working. And note that even with all 4 CCTs up, they still needed them. The CCTs don't have infinite range or even continental range, they need those towers to extend it to a practical range, and 1 CCT going down is not going to shoot down any of the others.

The signals can't bounce from Vale to Mistral or Vale to Atlas, but from Argus to Atlas it's quite reasonable.

2) You focus so much on the ocean that you miss something equally important: LAND. There's less ocean from Anima to Menag, but there's a damn lot more land between Menag and Mistral, which means there's a lot more distance between them than between Argus and Atlas.

3) Ok, now, who would kill whoever or whatever carried Qrow's message? Yuma is an useless example because the Belladonnas were targets of a terrorist organization that was keeping tabs on them. Qrow is not on any spotlight.

4) Even more useless example. There's an unknown gap of time between RNJR and Yang's arcs in Vol.4, and we saw nothing of Tai after Yang left. It's perfectly reasonable to say that Yang left before the letter arrived.

5) Because the signal from Vale, with the CCT down, could not get to Mistral, on the other side of the planet. Which doesn't change anything regarding Argus and Atlas, which have a much closer distance, 2 working CCTs (Mistral and Atlas), as well as the relay towers and active presence of the people who made the entire system in the first place.

6) The Grimm magnet part is meaningless. They spent hours walking in the middle of nowhere and not a single Grimm went after them past the train (the Apathy don't count since they were locked in the farm), so it's not even a good enough magnet.

And now they are in Argus, likely the safest place in Anima considering the Huntsman deficit thanks to Leo. They are in a point where they can take at least some time. Maybe not months, but far more than just a day.

7) While I don't disagree with most of this, you are assuming that just because Cordovin is a zealot, all her troops are zealots too. Which is stupid and fallacious. By that logic all Schnees are PR-hungry asses, all WF are fanatical faunus supremacists, and all members of the Ozluminati lie even when there's no need.

And besides, like Archer mentioned above. Cordovin could communicate with Atlas (she must be, reports from such a key location are important). Why not have Weiss ask her to let her call Winter? She was quite willing to take her to Atlas (alone) without any questions, a call would be fine.

8) It's quite likely the prices are just different (that's how economy works. Even with the same currency, different cities can have different prices for the same things), or they went up after Vale got rektd.

Also, Shiro's tab being what Qrow normally would pay for doesn't mean anything. If anything it makes Qrow look richer than he seemed before, being able to waste on drinks what a fellow Huntsman owed the ramen guy for months semi-frequently (assuming he didn't drink every damn day).