Board Thread:Speculation House/@comment-35941743-20190304195312/@comment-26018514-20190720011711

Wilfred J. Pemberley wrote: The Devil&#039;s Advocate WP wrote: Weiss was one obstacle and taking out one of the opposing side can demoralize the whole group, not just the one she is fighting. Jaune being outmatched doesn't mean he isn't an obstacle causing her difficulty. After she took Weiss down, even if temporarily, it basically took two to four of their team out of the fight. Jaune stopped fighting to help Weiss and Nora and Ren stopped to defend them. Except that when you look at the situation in its totality (particularly the dialogue in the scene), you can see that it's not the case. Jaune told Cinder that he was willing to die if it meant protecting his friends, to which Cinder immediately responded with, "you really think so?". And then she immediately impaled Weiss with a javelin (which, let's not forget, was Pyrrha's weapon of choice).

With that said, you'd have to be in serious denial to think that this was anything other than Cinder trying to torment Jaune, and you'd be in even further denial if you thought she did that for any reason other than the fact that she's a sadist. As Mega also pointed out in the very Post DA was responding to, Cinder easily could have killed Ruby in that moment instead, and had she been afraid for her life or seriously thinking Ruby was the threat she had to deal with or kill, she should have been focused enough on her it would be hard to kill someone else not attacking her besides Ruby.

As this fact takes the wind out of your Entire argument in that Post DA, I ask that you stop trying to strawman back into arguments we've already addressed.