Board Thread:Speculation House/@comment-4830106-20131110184853/@comment-27.253.87.47-20131121094059

BenRG wrote: Here's my position on the character so far:


 * Definitely has a history with Ozpin and Qrow; maybe ex-teammate, maybe even family to one or both of them;


 * May have once been Glynda's partner and best friend;


 * Is the woman Yang was looking for in the Yellow Trailer, although Yang doesn't know just who that person has become in recent years;


 * Is the current nom de crime of Summer Rose;


 * Is Ruby's biological mother.

As for her two associates? I'm thinking some kind of Grimm cultists who think that power behind the Creatures will turn them into some kind of demon gods if they help it eradicate human civilisation.

I think that Summer is out for vengeance for some slight or betrayal on Ozpin's part. Whether or not that betrayal exists anywhere but her paranoid fantasies is up for debate but it is worth noting that he has "made more mistakes than any other man, woman or child on this planet", so it is possible that he did screw up and ruin her life somehow. I'm not sure if she's entirely part of the Grimm Cult or if she's using them in the same way she's using Roman and White Fang - to build her own power and to use as expendible troops in her little vengeance quest.

One possibility is that, as Ozpin has dedicated his life to the defence of civilisation, Summer has decided to dedicate her life to destroying it, just to hurt him. Petty, yes, but I'm not sure that she's firing on all cylinders; if she's gone psychotic then she might literally be incapable of caring about the consequences of her actions beyond her own desires.

Cinder Rose is an medium off-pink colour.

Some fan writers also use "Cinder Rose" as Cinderella's (literally "Ash Girl") true name. This is especially the case in darker tellings of the Cinderella story where Cinder's "happily ever after" doesn't quite happen. So... maybe Summer Rose's dream romance went sour... did Ozpin's mistakes possibly lead to her husband's death? So did she adopt the new name of Cinder Rose (symbolising literally the burnt ashes of her former self) and launch on a crusade of revenge?

Naturally, it will turn out that maybe things aren't as black-and-white as Cinder imagines. For example, the daughter that she was told had died due to Ozpin's mistake is, in fact, very much alive and well... If you look carefully at the screen Yang shows Junior, it's actually a picture of Blake from the black trailer. At least it looks a hell of a lot like her but I'm not certain