Board Thread:Speculation House/@comment-14138255-20151213162620/@comment-26397825-20151214062843

Ported in from the Spoilers thread:

Me:

Oh, thought. What if the headmaster of Haven comes in to say "What the hell, Ozpin, why did your person attack mine?" Then actually has a look at the team and says, "Hold up,these aren't Haven students." And that is how Cinder and her crew get found out.

Or at least how Yang gets out of bog trouble, as they can say "Oh, she knew something was wrong." She'd still be in trouble, but it wouldn't be as much.

Lord Jaric:

 My argument against that is that Headmasters don't know every single one of their students. It would be like a dean having to know every student at their college. Cinder and her cronies could have easily falsified their names into Haven's records.

 Zenbast:

 1 - The tournament is on tv all around the world. Other people from Haven would have already realized "who are these dudes ? I never saw them in school" if this was the case. And most likely the others teams from Heaven would have reported it.

Since it didn't happen, I suppose they are REALLY students from Haven. Chisio Kunrin:1. No one knows and recognizes every single student at school because, for the most part, no one pays attention to every single person they pass by in the hallway. Everyone's too focused on their friends, their schoolwork, and their teachers. Some people don't even pay attention to the majority of the other students in the same classes as them. Class clowns get recognized because they make themselves stand out from everyone else in the room, but a lot of students stay quiet or only talk quietly to their friends.

The fact is, no one from or at Haven is going to point to Cinder's team and yell "Wait a minute, they're not actually from Haven!"

I doubt Team RWBY can recognize every single Beacon student, even if the students they're supposed to look at are supposedly fellow first-years. They only recognize the students they actually pay attention to and interact with.

The absolute vast majority of the students in every single class I had in high school were nothing but nameless background characters, to me. If you had one of them walk up to me, I wouldn't know we went to high school together because we didn't pay attention to each other, we didn't know each other, we never interacted, we never even looked at each other, we didn't give a damn. Me:

On the subject of the Headmaster not recognising the students, they probably would have compiled a list of students going over for the Vytal Festival. Cinder may have slipped her team profile into the list in transit, or just before it was sent but after it was signed off by the Headmaster.

Also, the teachers would recognise the students in their class (I have a friend who is a teacher at a high school, he may not know their names but he knows their faces). There should be at least two teachers who would recognise Cinder's group, especially the sparring class teacher, and I'm sure they are watching the tournament. If they saw a team claiming to be from Haven, I would think they would mention it to their colleagues, who would in turn mention it to someone else to find out who knows them, if only so they can find out how good they are. Eventually it would come up that not one of the teachers recognises them, and a search of school records would show that they have never submitted assignments or papers even if they are enrolled, and they wouldn't have a dorm room. Or if they did, it wouldn't have any gear in it to say it had ever been lived in, even if they're not living there right now.

I doubt Cinder is going to forge assignments and marks for her little scheme for each and every member of her team. She'd be found out eventually simply because a teacher would be curious about this team that's doing so well.