Board Thread:Speculation House/@comment-158.125.243.29-20150329080244/@comment-26206856-20150416032903

ObiWanCokeNosey wrote: Holy balls. That's one insightful post.

So then why is Weiss seeing herself when she's looking at the armour? She shatters it. Shatters it like a mirror. She must really hate herself... I try. xD Seriously though, it took too long to put my thoughts to words about this. Of course now my prelim examination is done, and I dissect it further I'm finding better ways of explaining what's happening and the subtleties to back them up. In fact, I'm relying less on a physical fight now that I see more evidence.

What bothers me is other than the first staredown before the fight, Weiss is missing her scar until she gets punched. However, once it reappears it's clearly to the right of the blood on her face which means it can't be a scar from that hit. What the punch then becomes is the symbolic event that caused the scar (both physically and emotionally) in the first place.

With a closer rewatch, I'm leaning less off of an actual fight with a golem. What I see is a beginning with her shelled outward appearance. When the camera drops down and flips (like the flip side of a mirror realm) we see her inner self. The song asks about a heart turning to stone, and now I feel that the golem is her stone shell (armor) she's trying to free herself from. This comes in the form of a hardened shell she's built from family hardships, emotional separation, etc. that she feels is starting to suffocate her real self.

This is why she's fighting it in the first place. The same still applies for how she fights it; still needing to rely on dust to squeeze her way out and so on, but 'breaking out of your shell' could very well apply to her battle here.

When she gets knocked down, everything goes dark, and we briefly see her return to the stage for the long "Aaaaahh". This could be construed as her true inner self being pulled out to the outer side and expressing all the pain she feels about the situation. We also see a very blatant change in lighting that sweeps across the floor. This could signify the change or sway in power from the outer keeping her locked away and the inner seeing freedom. With that glimpse of light and hope, she resolves herself to fight harder and once again returns to her battle on the inside.

''Mirror mirror whats behind you? Save me from the things I've seen.'' This in relation could be her asking the inner (behind the mirror) self to 'save' her from the golem either literally, or figuratively in the way of shattering that stone armor she's built from all the horrible things she's seen/witnessed.

I can keep it from the worl''d. Why won't you let me hide from me? ''These lines bug me because they seem to oppose the two before it, and it leads me to almost think we're hearing Weiss' two sides singing against each other. One want's her emotions out, and the other wants to keep everything protected and in. This is backed up in that the chorus after it has two distinct voices singing it overlayed atop each other. This is also where we see a flip flop of both the inner fight and outer singing scenes before she starts the final blow.

At this point, the two voices merge, signifying combination of the two (the inner becoming the outer). This would be why we see the reflection of the outer Wiess in her eyes as she finally breaks through (with accompanying shatter effects above the golem and the breif image of stage Weiss) and the inner takes over the outer's position. Golem shatters, (woohoo) and you'll notice that we don't flip back from inside to outside like in the beginning, but rather, she opens her eyes and realizes she is the outer Weiss. She even has to blink and look around as if to verify she really made it. It's also breif and very hard to catch, but I see a slight smile right before it cuts to the zoomed out shot which would show she's happy with this accomplishment.

Heh... runthrough numero dos. This is the original rundown I wanted to take a close look at where my fisrt was mostly off of the lyrics. As for your remark about hating herself, it's not really that, but rather that she has realized how much of a stone shell she's built around herself, and wants to free herself from that. Not so much hate, as it is just breaking out of old habits.

But that's not reflected in how Weiss acts. She's arrogant, and incredibly sure of herself. She's had a life where everything she's ever wanted has been given to her, with little fuss. I don't want to be too quick to demonise her father- maybe he's not the problem, though it is quite heavily implied. We gotta remember, he probably does love Weiss. But, like any parent, he doesn't always make her life easy.

Sure, she's arrogant and sure of herself. That's how she is, growing up in a privelleged childhood, and old habits die hard. She wants to meet new friends and connect on an emotional level, (which seems to be what she avoided before) but with little previous interaction between others, she goes with what she knows. We've seen her loosen up quite a bit from Vol. 1 to Vol. 2 already.

I'll also agree that she's gotten pretty much everything she wants, but the way she reacts to Port telling her this seems to make me think she didn't really feel like she got things to go her way. Materialistic items, sure. Emotional gratification? No. Demonising the father is a little presumptuous, yes, but it does seem to be implied, and we've heard absoluetly no mention of her mother.

I like to think of it as him being one of those workoholic parents that just never have time to connect with their children, or choose to abstain from it for some sort of 'protection' reason or another. Also keep in mind that she doesn't seem to be happy with her sister Winter either, otherwise I'm sure she would have been fine talking with her at the tower one on one. This leads me to think of a circumstance that her being at Beacon is somehow grudgingly being allowed by the family in some way. (Which is where the 'trial' idea came from.) That, or she just really dislikes most of her family.

Maybe Weiss was chased away from her family somehow? Who is the Evil Queen in Weiss' story? "I'm a Schnee. I have a legacy of honor to uphold." Once she recognized she was capable of fighting, there was no question in her mind that she wanted to become a huntress... as her 'duty'. She's fully aware of what her father's done with the SDC. It's operating in a moral grey area which is why she feels the need to make things right. A cushy job in Atlas (status quo and the outer self guarded by the stone shell) wouldn't have changed anything. She refuses to let her father be the end of the family name/ legacy, and somehow becoming a Huntress will help her show a better side to the Schnee name. I'm not sure how much emphasis to pull from Port's line of "you have the true blood of a huntress in you", but perhaps the older legacy of Schnees were all accomplished huntsmen and slowly deformed into a big, greed and money hungry industry. Again, we have no mention of her mother, so for now I'll use her father as the 'Evil Queen.'