Board Thread:Speculation House/@comment-35941743-20190304195312/@comment-26018514-20190314002730

The Devil&#039;s Advocate WP wrote: Somerandomguy93 wrote: I just cannot see that happening though... What I really cannot see... pure-hearted idiot hero. A bit of a trope, but it is pretty strongly telegraphed that this is the key factor.

One feature all such heroes have is an uncanny ability to turn enemies into allies. I think speculating about Cinder is a bit difficult to do without any real hint of a backstory, but people don't suddenly become obsessed with power for no reason. Given the backstory of her inspiration, it isn't hard to imagine how she might have come to be so desperate as to turn to Salem. Yet she may not know Salem's real intentions.

Both of those factors could come into play with Ruby. She would be pretty sympathetic to someone, even Cinder, who experienced any kind of traumatic childhood. At the same time she would at least know bringing all the Relics together could trigger a humanity-annihilating apocalypse and may wonder if Cinder is really that angry about her past treatment. Maybe it wouldn't be a sudden heel-face turn, but it could plant enough doubt for her to eventually flip sides. While Ruby may be pure hearted, we've already seen how Cinder both acquires power and reacts to pain; she lashes out and acquires more power at any cost to not fail again.

To put it lightly, it's doubtful Cinder can survive a heal-face turn with grimm implants as they seem to be controlled by her own negative emotions and desire to kill, sure she could betray Salem, but at their core the Grimm were designed to kill life, not sustain it.

So the only way she lives through the series is either as an immortal queen of darkness, or as a cripple that if she's lucky is given actual prosthesis by Jimmy... and I doubt she'd be willing to take that power loss(expecting to survive) in the first place.