Board Thread:Episode Discussion/@comment-34633327-20180105193053/@comment-2001:8A0:D212:101:3160:38A2:D9F6:43B6-20180107023958

KingFubuki92 wrote: 1) Opinion dude, I wasn't defining for her.

2) I said that because even if they suck ass, you think they'd stand by their leader rather than just hide. And no, that logic is completely ass-backwards. I'm saying Raven's biological family, namely Qrow, actually tried to reach out to her at one point and are fighting for what they believe in, even if it contradicts her own. Even Ruby, the daughter of her former teammate and her own daughter's half sister, a person who should have every reason to hate Raven for abandoning Yang, tried to get Raven to join them. Meanwhile, all of Raven's tribesman not named Vernal are missing, either running with their tails between their legs, or dead. Soldiers who go to war not only do have families, they have two. Their biological, and the men they fight alongside. But who is Raven fighting alongside? Just Vernal. Vernal is her family. Qrow, Yang, Taiyang, they were her family, and if she cuts the crap and lives through this, they can be it again.

3) No one is saying Cinder has to die, but she isn't gonna win.

4) They didn't because they couldn't. All the huntsmen Qrow went searching for were killed by Hazel and Tyrian after Leonardo gave away their locations. 1) Family is to her whatever the hell she thinks it is.

2)Again, her tribe would be useless. In fact, they would be worse than useless - they would be a hindrance. Also, she was probably the one who told them not to be there. I actually don't buy Raven only cares about her tribe and doesn't care about Qrow, Yang and Tai (even though she created portals to all of them) and at some point, she worked for Ozpin, so she probably left the tribe too, t was just more temporarily, but something happened that made her change her mind, because it seems that at some point she thought she would follow Ozpin forever

3) I kinda don't see Raven dying either, tbh, but I really don't see how things are going to play out for both to survive.

4)   W hy the hell did you tell me everything that was pretty clearly shown?   What a BS. I'm sorry, sure in Mistral, they didn't have hunstmen, but when they went to Mistral, they should have taken a few others with them. Seriously, 1 adult and a bunch of kids, when 4 of those kids weren't a match for even 1 of Salem's minions. Tai, Glynda, people at Beacon, other Vale hunstmen, Atlas, Vacuo - they don't have allies anywhere? Didn't they arrive at Mistral at least a month ago? Blake and Faunus can take 2 weeks or less to get to Mistral, yet they can't find anyone who can go to Mistral in 1 month. Also, Qrow was the one who told Ruby about Mistral. He knew exactly what the next destination was, and yet didn't bother to prepare anything? Really? "I suspect the next attack will be in Mistral and therefore I'm going alone with a bunch of kids, even though several professional hunstmen didn't manage to avoid the fall of Beacon". With that type of logic, I find it amazing that it's taking Salem this long to defeat Ozpin