Talk:Cinder Fall/@comment-35585801-20180514171634/@comment-26018514-20180514182423

1. Except that works against your argument... as most people thought both Pyrrha & Torchwick were still alive until RT stated they were dead(and many even afterwards, so far if a character appears to die... they have died(excluding Vernal's shortly extended lifetime.

2. Again, this argument works against you, Cinder needs to be dead so that other villains can be fleshed out and show why they are to be feared... and so that Salem's faction lays off making any more grand offensives for awhile(so they can introduce other villain factions to replace the WF)... A new maiden under her control works just as well as Cinder for power too.

3. Not really... I'd have agreed with you if Cinder hadn't completely reverted to overconfident bitch after her brief V4 development, but they flubbed that and showed she refuses to change or adapt in any way... there just isn't anything interesting about a villain like that. And again, this means that like Torchwick, her planned time in the narrative might have already exceeded what the writers originally wanted/needed.