Talk:Raven Branwen/@comment-1446360-20180519125934/@comment-25936766-20180519165159

"...If you were in the same situation as her". And which situation are we talking about here?

First: There's that time she abandoned her friends-for-years to go kill people with a ragtag bunch of murderers, while dumping her newborn daughter with one of them, all without even saying why or even just "goodbye".

If I were in her shoes I'd give the Branwen tribe the middle finger. Just by doing basic Huntsmen work I could live 10 times better than they do without having to avoid the law constantly. Why the hell would I want to go back? It's like refusing a doctorate to go work as a janitor, why the hell would I do that.

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Second: there's that time she found the Spring Maiden, traumatized, scared, and instead of giving her sympathy or being patient, Raven put her through hellish training with no consideration for her emotional state, and when the girl naturally didn't become the cold-blooded killer Raven wanted, she killed her herself.

I would at least be patient and show empathy. Even if I could care less about the girl as a person, negativity could get us killed and if the girl suddenly snaps thanks to me, she would obliterate me. Considering that, the idea of not being an asshole to her and instead being friendly and supportive to get her to my side willingly and safely, sounds a lot wiser.

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Third: The time where she proposed to the villains who serve the closest thing there is to Satan on Remnant, a plan to kill her own brother and the meddling kids, including her own daughter. Then she went to Mistral....just to talk shit with Leo and tell him "I'M STRONK >:C".

I would've at least told Qrow and co. about what's going on and devise a counterplan. Because hey, as much as one might hate Ozpin for being an enigmatic ass and as much as one might just want to walk away from their fight, he's still a million times better than Salem.

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And finally: There was the time where her daughter took her own teachings to heart and questioned Raven's life choices, her hypocresy, her lies, her selfishness, her numerous self-reassuring excuses, and so on. To the point Raven actually felt guilty (and she should) and flocked away.

If I was Raven, I wouldn't even be doing cheap lies and excuses to begin with. If I was guilty of even half the things she is, I would be acknowledging them, not acting as if I was a pure saint who did the right thing.