Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-24098614-20180508224452/@comment-34724302-20180527074854

Alhazad2003 wrote: Arkantos95 wrote: Yang didn't tear apart shit, that was the worst dialogue the show has ever had. If those arguments had been thrown at V4 Raven she'd have laughed in her face. It was a contrived, petty moment that completely neutered Raven's character and removed yet another potentially morally grey character from this show. Sorry to disappoint you, but if you thought the Raven of Volume 4 was the real Raven, then I daresay you were destined to be disappointed. Volume 5 has gone to great lengths to show what a fraud Raven is, culminating in her epic deconstruction at Yang's hands in the finale. Time and again she contradicted herself, disillusioning not only Yang but several fans who believed Raven was something that ultimately proved untrue. And RT did it brilliantly, so people could feel Yang's disappointment when she finally met her mother face-to-face. You call it neutering her, I call it a well deserved emotional beatdown that completely stripped away the illusion of strength Raven cast around her. And some feel Yang didn't go far enough, they wanted to see Raven completely broken at the finale, if not killed. But clearly CRWBY has something else in mind for the flighty bird, or else she wouldn't have escaped Haven... alive. Yes, and there were still hints that Raven wasn't the person she pretends to be during Qrow's conversation with Yang when he warned her that her mother was a dangerous person and who told him that Yang shouldn't expect any kindness after saving her once, and during Qrow's conversation with Raven where she kept justifying herself and avoiding to respond directly to Qrow's critics about her treatment of Yang and her leaving her family and friends for the tribe.