Thread:Soarel/@comment-24834640-20180622110646/@comment-27045477-20180624210630

Her motives have nothing to do with Maidens...what the hell are you even on about?

“Also, there is nothing  to indicate she has some higher goal, there never was. “

SACRIFICE. When it Falls. Her speech. Adam referring to her “human cause” and her saying she wanted a revolution. The fact she is working with Salem to overthrow Ozpin. Confirmation bias at work with you. Hyper-focus on the SINGLE LINE and ignore everything else.

“Everything about her character has shown an obsession with being powerful, and pretty much fuck-all else besides wanting to kill the people who make her feel weak (i.e., Ruby and, for all of a second, Jaune).”

ONE LINE. ONE LINE OF DIALOGUE. This is confirmation bias at its finest. Judge her whole character on ONE LINE and ignore everything else. Cinder does not “just want power”. If she “just wanted power”, why would she put so much effort into making Ozpin look bad and humilating him publicly? Why would she destroy Beacon and work with a group looking to destroy the Hunter Academies? Why would she put so much effort into framing Ironwood for her attack and telling everyone that he was a tyrannical dictator? In V3E9 we see her express genuine anger during her speech speech exposing Ozpin and his cabal, in which she refers to how they manipulate and use the public's children for their own ends (literally the entire message of Sacrifice). This whole claim about “just wanting power” simply does not line up with her actions whatsoever. Obtaining the Fall Maiden’s power was merely one step in her plan to defeat Ozpin, and it allowed her to kill Ozpin’s current host body. It is a means to an end, nothing more. Judging her entire character off of a single line of dialogue and ignoring everything else is ridiculous.

“Where do you get off dragging a dead man's name out and acting like you speak for him?”

I’m just stating facts, like the fact that the core of V4+ was not planned. To deny these to defend the intentional railroading of the show is pathetic.