Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-28171999-20190208002539/@comment-14909251-20190225003707

BlizzardDragon wrote: How was she established as being a significant individual in the WF? Most she was established as was being the child of the former leader, and the protoge/girlfriend of the future leader. Nowhere was it said she was well known as a member of the WF. I wasn't saying she was significant in the White Fang, but she is a significant figure as the daughter of the former White Fang leader and current Chieftan of Menagerie. Really strange already that there aren't more people recognizing her, but it would be downright implausible for it to happen in Atlas.

If that was the case, why didn't she get arrested in Vale or Mistral? Why didn't Ironwood arrest her when he met her after his troops apprehended Yang? If they arrested her for being in the WF when no where else even seemed to acknowledge she was in it, not even the head general of their nations military, then it would come across as an Asspull, or as a Racially Motivated arrest with no evidence. Fair to say Vale and Mistral aren't as targeted by White Fang. Plus, she was only in Mistral for like two weeks and during that time helped save them from a White Fang attack. Even if they had time to look into her background they would probably not do it just because it would look bad. In Vale she spent most of her time at Beacon and it is entirely possible Ozpin knew all about her from the outset, but didn't do anything so she was effectively under his protection. That would be a reason Ironwood wouldn't do anything, presuming he recognized her.

However, really the issue here is that it is Atlas. We don't know if Blake has done anything to Vale or Mistral in any way, but we do know she has been involved in more than one incident against Atlas. She mentioned getting through Atlas defenses in the past and it doesn't seem that would refer to the train attack from the Black Trailer. It doesn't even have to be a thing of them suddenly recognizing her. They did all just straight-up steal a ship from Atlas.

It is quite possible they'll all be detained initially. Weiss may not be detained or just quickly released on account of being a Schnee with most of the others being released because Ironwood. However, they might bring up that Blake came up as connected to several crimes against Atlas and so they won't be able to release her and Ironwood, despite his influence, can't intervene for political reasons.

Seriously Advocate, your disdain for what happened with Adam is starting to turn into a hate boner for Blake & Yang

I don't know where you get hate for Blake out of any of this. Don't want Blake arrested to punish her, but rather because at this point I think it is the best way to get into Faunus and White Fang issues without forcing in some new character or more exposition from Blake. Plus, it is also something that can prevent the next Volume from being a drag. I'm not sure how they can fill the time recent Volumes have been getting without there being some serious setbacks in Atlas from the outset and aside from another tedious "find the Maiden" story, this is one way to do it.

and becoming glorifying of Adam. Seriously, an interesting and tragic backstory? All from seeing a scar. Thats an assumption if I've ever heard one. Tragic yeah, but interesting? For all we know some jackass just branded his face. That's it. Not really interesting since we could infer it from a single look, and is kinda expected considering how much they've built up the SDC as Faunus abusing assholes.

As I explained, it really doesn't make sense for it to be some random attack. The point here is show not tell and while they can't quite show what Adam went through without forcing some flashback, he could tell what happened in a way that is as good as showing. Being able to see and hear his outrage over it by confronting Weiss and confronting Blake for joining up with Weiss, could have been a visceral and compelling moment. He would show how badly it hurt him in a way to which nothing else up to this point can stack up. Sure, people can infer quite a bit from it, but for those who don't pick up on it or aren't as savvy it doesn't have the same impact.

It also comes across as a sense of entitlement.

Other than changing their mind about killing him off, this is the only real way they cane make up for the bullshit with Adam.

They don't have to make up for jack shit if they don't want too. If this was how they had always planned to do Adam, then they have no reason to do more for him or make up for his fate just because his fans didn't like what happened to him, and I say his fans because you have made it abundantly clear that you are one of his fans. I didn't say they have to make up for it. What I do think is it is a waste of good plot potential and something should be done to compensate for it. Also, I am not a "fan" of Adam in whatever sense you mean. What I am is someone who is annoyed at how the whole Faunus and White Fang situation has been handled up to this point in the story. Nothing they had shown makes the case that at this point in Remnant's story, Faunus discrimination is a serious issue warranting the extreme tactics being pursued by the White Fang.

Mind you, this is kind of important given you have to come up with some rationale for why Blake, who at this point is by all accounts a spoiled goody two-shoes, would stay with them for years after it broke her relationship with her parents. Adam's apparent backstory was the first real bit of insight we have had into those darker aspects of a still ongoing problem in Faunus-human relations. Yet just as quickly as it was presented to us it was snatched away.