Talk:Cinder Fall/@comment-30975241-20190730060903/@comment-4010415-20190731001624

Not to mention that Raven has had her Maiden powers for longer than Cinder has and, thus, likely has had more practice with them. We know that Raven had been using the powers because the whole reason Qrow knew Raven had the Spring Maiden in her tribe was because of the kind of damage that had been done by the tribe.

Cinder gained approximately half of the Fall Maiden powers a few months before Volume 1. The time frame of Volumes 1-3 is one year, and at the end of Volume 3, she finally obtained the full powers. The Battle of Haven took place approximately a year after the Fall of Beacon. So, Cinder only had full powers for about a year, and overall had Maiden powers for a little over 2 years.

It's uncertain how long Raven has had the Spring Maiden powers for, but it has likely been years. Lionheart had said that the Spring Maiden had run off over a decade ago (so, more than 10 years ago). Miles and Kerry have said that the cutoff age for receiving Maiden powers is about 30 years old. Students graduate Huntsman academies at about age 21 (they typically start at 17, and Ozpin said Beacon's education would last for 4 years), and during the events of Volumes 4 and 5, Yang was about 18 years old. 21 + 18 = 39. Since the cutoff for inheriting Maiden powers is about 30, then Raven had to have obtained the Spring Maiden powers about... 10 years before Volume 5, which lines up with when Lionheart said Spring disappeared. Wow... I suddenly realized, Raven really did not keep the Spring Maiden alive for very long at all, depending on how much more than a decade ago she had left...