Board Thread:Speculation House/@comment-14138255-20141031002615/@comment-11188061-20141108124844

Let's see. A little speculations relating to Cinder Fall and Raven Branwen!

1) Raven is Yang's mother (this is as obvious as Blake being a Faunu, and Penny being a robot. The only thing it needs is confirmation).

2) Yang will learn some new moves/skills/etc from Raven and grow stronger in the process. If she ever encounters Neo again and they fight, she's going to give that girl a nasty surprise.

3) But despite this motherly show towards Yang (totally in secret too btw), Raven Branwen is in truth the real enemy. She is the one of those that Qrow, Ozpin, Ironwood are so wary about.

4) Raven may want to bring Yang along with her, but Yang is ultimately an unexpected, secondary objective. Yang will have a choice to make soon between her mother, and her chosen path as a Huntress (which we all know what she'll choose).

5) Cinder is a 3rd, unknown force in this matter. She knows of the two opposing factions, and pit them against each other in order to further her own objectives.

6) The objective of the Breach of Vale is to discredit Ozpin; this is without a doubt correct. However, it is also entirely possible that she is creating an opening for one of 'the enemy' - in this case Raven Branwen - to slip through Vale's staunch defenses, so that Ozpin's forces will have an actual Black Queen threat to deal with. The two forces will distract each other enough that she will be even less noticeable than before (especially since the Face of her force, Roman Torchwick is already in Ironwood's custody).

7) Cinder Fall is originally a good girl, possibly a 'Ruby Rose' before her transformation. But a tragedy changed her - I'm totally just guessing here, but I'm thinking of a supposedly fatal incident that she against all odds, survived, and no one knows of this but her - and she rebuilt her own image into something entirely different.

8) The Vytal Tournament is one of Cinder's main targets. The act of noting strong opponents, including first years like Pyrrha in her list is proof.