Talk:Cinder Fall/@comment-26306690-20190106151255/@comment-5430952-20190111115612

She may argue she was doing it on Salem's behalf, but Watts wasn't fooled, he knew she was doing it for herself. Regardless of how Cinder might've spun it, Salem would've seen through her deceptions and brought her up short in time. And V5C12 made it quite clear why she was doing it.

Cinder: It's nothing personal, dear. (she approaches Vernal) You're just not worthy of such power. (face to face with Vernal) But I am...

''Vernal is then pushed to the ground, and she screams out in pain as she struggles to get the Grimm hand out of her stomach. The ice coating Raven is shown cracking.''

Cinder: So I will take... what is mine...

 So Cinder was cleary doing it for her own benefit, not for Salem's, that's the difference.