Board Thread:Speculation House/@comment-31953669-20180124124137/@comment-26018514-20180319072316

Alhazad2003 wrote: The Devil&#039;s Advocate WP wrote: I don't think that analogy works here, but again you're just assuming she was frozen from the inside out. Raven clearly did something to make Cinder freeze over. If Cinder was simply encased in ice, there'd be a visible layer around her body, not to mention that gap in her left forearm would probably be filled with ice. Just look at those two pictures, Raven's clothes can be seen through the ice, meaning she's been encased in it. Whereas Cinder's clothes can't, which signifies she's most likely been frozen from the inside. That'd be the best bet in such a situation, and I can't see Raven making the same mistake Cinder did, lest she risk the madwoman returning with a vengeance. And since she didn't, her fate remains uncertain. Hope this clears things up.

1. I was not assuming anything in that post, I'm also somewhat reluctant to say she was definitively frozen from the inside-out myself(although I do believe she was frozen solid starting from a point of expansion directly on her skin, whereas Raven who had Aura was merely encased because her aura pro-actively resisted her freezing, while Cinder would have actively needed to counter the freezing with maiden powers).

If you look at the quote I was quoting, you will find I was refuting your assertion that it wouldn't change anything if it were true.

2. As Alhazad and others have stated, they appear like different kinds of freezing, and keep in mind that Raven already noted a method she may have been able to exploit to get past Cinder's Aura more effectively: the Grimm arm.