Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-94.8.221.186-20180402122306/@comment-4010415-20180407024131

BlizzardDragon wrote: 1. Wasted Characters. I get that a tournament needs more than just the main characters, but the tournament fighters felt so bland that they didn't even feel like characters. The only ones who didn't feel like this were Flynt and Neon. Why? Because they actually got character during the fights.

2. Out of Character Moments. Some things in this volume made no sense character wise. Namely Pyrrha going off to fight Cinder. I know she was planned to die from the beginning, but in what form of logic did that make any sense? Did she really think she could stop someone who bested Ozpin? OR was she just suicidal? It didn't seem like something Pyrrha would do.

3. Then there is Adam. Adam I mainly hate for being a Yandere Psycho, but that started with this volume. Before Volume 3, he was painted as a Man who had good intentions but fell off the deep end, and his little scene at the end of the Black Trailer reaching out for Blake, made it seem like he was genuinely hurt about Blake leaving. But lol!NOPE, he is instead an abusive asshole who wants to subjugate humanity to what the Faunus went through, and now a generic Yandere Asshole. His actions during Volume 3 didn't seem like how they were setting him up. I'm not talking about personal interpretations, I'm saying it contradicted how Blake talked about him in canon.

4. Remember how Penny said she had a plan to escape Ironwood and stay at Beacon? Dropped after they chose to kill her.

5. Remember the big worry that Pyrrha wouldn't be the same person after absorbing Amber's aura and Maiden powers? Dropped when Cinder interrupted the transfer.

6. Remember the moral dilemma behind Yang attacking Mercury and how Blake seemed torn up about it? Dropped when the Fall began.

7. Remember how Velvet had to reach for her box at her side during the Breach making it seem like the weapon was in the box? Dropped in favor of making her a copy fighter.

8. Remember how Weiss was gonna sever ties with her dad and stand up for herself? Dropped in favor of him dragging her back to Atlas and pushed back to Volume 4.

9. Remember how Neptune was going to act more like himself than some cool guy in the previous volume and built up as a supporting character that plays off Sun? Ignored with Neptune being the butt of a joke in one episode and largely ignored that volume, and hasn't been seen since. Especially glaring seeing as his VA is one of the lead writers. 1. True, this is a really big problem. I kinda wonder if they intend for us to see Flynt and Neon in Volume 6. Though, we didn't get to see Scarlet or Sage in Volume 5...

2. I keep having to explain this. I don't think Pyrrha thought she could defeat Cinder, and I don't think Pyrrha was sacrificing herself.

Ozpin told her the tower could not fall, and Cinder was in the tower. Ozpin told her to get Glynda, Ironwood, and Qrow and bring them to the tower. With Ozpin defeated, Cinder was alone in the tower. Pyrrha told Jaune to CALL GLYNDA. Instead, Jaune called Weiss and then broke his Scroll.

I believe Pyrrha was trying to stall for time by distracting Cinder too much for Cinder to take out the tower, believing that Jaune would come through and get Glynda to go to the tower.

3. This definitely wouldn't have been so much of a problem if they had actually given him screentime before then. Though, to me, it seems that, whenever Blake is not involved, Adam keeps his cool and still acts similar to how he did in the Black Trailer. It is only when Blake is involved that he acts like an unstable maniac.

4. That has been bugging me too. I wish they had either told us what was going on with that or not bring it up at all.

5. Um, yeah? Because the point about Pyrrha possibly not being the same person anymore was to give a reason for Pyrrha to take time to think carefully about it, thus causing her and Ozpin to wait until the last minute to do it, thus making it too late and giving Cinder the opportunity to take the remaining half. That was the reason that was brought up. Another reason is possibly because Ozpin actually knows first-hand what happens when two souls merge, which we didn't learn until Volume 4.

6. Actually, it was dropped in the same exact scene where it was brought up, due to Blake deciding that Yang isn't like Adam so she'll just accept it if Yang promises that she really did think she was under attack.

7. That is, indeed, stupid, though I wonder if they had had her reach for the box in Breach so that the audience would know what she was trying to do.

8. My view: Being dragged back home increased Weiss' frustration with her father and her situation because it gave her a feeling of powerlessness, the inability to control her own life and follow through with her decisions, still being under her father's control even after how hard she fought to get away from him.

9. I recall them saying that Miles and Kerry had intended to give Neptune a scene in Sun and Neptune vs Pyrrha and Nora where Neptune had to get over being embarrassed in front of literally the entire world so that he could help Sun. He was going to put on swim floaties so he could feel secure in the water in a swamp biome. But, due to time constraints, that fight had to be cut.

47.208.133.145 wrote:

(like with Yang meeting her mom in Vol 2 that seemed dropped completely save for one brief exchange with Qrow), like that which happened in vol 2 was not considered as canon anymore, Blame Monty for that. That after credits scene where Yang meets Raven was not supposed to happen. Monty forced that scene in. Even then, though, the whole thing had visual and audio effects that were meant to indicate that IT WAS A DREAM. Yang only dreamed that she met with Raven. There's a reason Miles and Kerry tried to stop Monty from putting that scene in.