Board Thread:Episode Discussion/@comment-24993958-20181026055523/@comment-4141313-20181031050816

SomeoneYouUsedToKnow wrote:

3) What was Qrow's issue with the turrets? He kept saying that they made the passengers afraid, but that honestly sounds like drunk bullshit.

The Grimm were already attacking by then, screaming very loudly, shooting fireballs at the train as well as stomping on it. That alone will scare the passengers. Activating the turrets would not make them any more scared, it would make them less scared because it reminds them that they have protection, the turrets would make them feel more secure and safe.

The Grimm were already attacking the train, so the Grimm attacking the turrets makes little difference, aside from the fact that it kept their attention away from the actual cars with the actual people inside.

And their plan of having a Jaune-boosted Ren calm down and silence the entire train to solve the "passengers are afraid" problem didn't need them to turn off the turrets either. In fact, the turrets themselves would've been silenced, making them far more effective.

So yeah, what's the deal with Qrow? Dudley the Bozo Huntsman did the smart thing. His issue was that the turrets were only succeeding in attracting more Grimm, and naturally, since he's Qrow, he can't possibly be wrong. Even if someone brought up your argument he'd probably just blow it off. Seems he only has faith in actual Huntsman skills and not machines when it comes to defending people, hence his disdain for Atlas. But I digress.

SomeoneYouUsedToKnow wrote: 9) Speaking of annoying things, Ozpin's a total useless moron. It has been 2 weeks since Haven, and in all that time he never told anyone that the Relic would attract a swarm of giant flying fire-spitting cats?

Again: '2. Weeks.' And he never bothered to tell anyone about that detail before they got on the train and thus were outside Mistral's safety. It's not like it's some deep secret that no one should ever know about like the Maidens or the Gods, and even if it was RWBYNJR are already on the ball anyway.

"By the way, the Relic will attract Grimm, so we better stay on our toes till we reach Argus", WAS THAT SO HARD TO SAY PROFESSOR OZPIN???? Mmm, probably. Ozpin is so used to keeping secrets that he does so even when such secrets must be revealed to avoid disaster. It's one of his most glaring weaknesses that is making itself known in the story. And since this promises to be an Ozpin-heavy Volume, we're bound to see more of it, along with his other flaws. Not even trying to refute you on this, Ozpin's dire need for secrecy hurt the group yet again, dare we see what he does for an encore? 3. Add in that if there is even a possibility the Turrents attract more Grimm, Qrow's more than likely concerned his semblance will choose to go off at that moment and make it attract more Grimm. So if you factor that in, its more Qrow is trying to stop a problem before it can even become a problem.

9. I swear Ozpin pulling shit like this is proof of why he hasn't managed to stop Salem in what seems to be at least '6 Generations! (The Wizard, the three before him in the Intro, Ozpin himself, and now Oscar, but discounting the Warrior King of Vale as it is uncertain if one of them is said King) Or over 240 Years! '(Assuming each incarnation shown in the intro lived around 40-60 years, adding in the Wizard looking to be in his 70-80's and Ozpin himself having an ambigous age but still being referred to as old putting him somewhere in his 40-60's, then adding Oscar's age of 14, that would be the lowball estimate)

Does he have a fetish for keeping secrets or something? Seriously, its at this point what he's doing is more damaging to his goals then what Salem is doing.

Hell, the Relics attracting Grimm raises a bigger question. Since its all but confirmed that the Warrior King was an Incarnation, and that the Sword he wielded in the War is speculated to have been the Relic of Destruction, why weren't Grimm swarming him in particular during the war?