Board Thread:Speculation House/@comment-35941743-20190304195312/@comment-26018514-20190703003020

Sentry 616 wrote: Yeah, the fact that we knew next to nothing of the sheer scale and severity of his crimes when he died help a lot. well tbh, that's why I agree with both viewpoints on whether he was redeemed or not.

He was "redeemed" only in that he did the galaxy a great service dispatching an even bigger monster, but that doesn't mean many people in universe would have felt he was redeemed, the only ones close to registering such were Luke, the son he saved and "last" member of the sect he destroyed, and his religion, the "force", and varying degrees his descendants.

Otherwise, to average joe Coruscant, he's just that boogieman that finally bit it.

Cinder is literally incapable of such a redemption because she lacks descendants, a religion whose line she crossed, or a clear sect of victims, she betrayed all of humanity and the only bigger monster she could stop(assuming she can) is Salem. Emerald might consider her redeemed that way, but as Emerald isn't even a hero like Luke was, so I'd still hardly call that a redemption.