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SomeoneYouUsedToKnow wrote: Animalia555 wrote: 1) I think THAT'S the setup. Remember V4 isn't supposed to be a self contained arc anymore than v1 was, it is PART of an arc.

2) And like I said prople with PTSD can be triggered even when they start to feel better.

3) In addition to this there is POSSIBLE FORESHADOWING in the final episode. Remember when.......................... It's possible that this is foreshadowing that by NOT focusing on herself and getting herself emotionally worked out before going back out into the world things will come back to bite Yang in the butt.

4) Maybe I am the only one who sees it but in Ruby I see a massive ball of denial that refuses to deal with the grief she is facing. A lot of Ruby's optimism this season comes across to me as forced. While Ruby has made SOME progress in that she has acknowledged the harshness of the world, she hasn't really acknowledged her grief and I can't help but feel there is a powderkeg waiting to explode. 1) That.....doesn't really change anything. If anything, the comparison with Vol.1 only makes my negative views on V4's writing feel more justified.

2) I'm not saying Yang "started to feel better". I'm saying that given the way she acted ever after Adam's nightmare, it looks like her "Don't-Give-A-Shit" levels of Depression, and her PTSD, both suddenly vanished.

Her conversation with Port and Oobleck felt pretty much like what she would've had before Adam dismembered her. In fact, she even jokes with Tai about her trauma with no problem.

If you showed someone who hasn't seen Vol.4, only how Yang acts after the Nightmare scene, they would never realize nor believe she was suffering from Depression and PTSD. That's the problem.

3) ...........You have barely a remote idea of what Foreshadowing is. To be fair though, so do Miles and Kerry.

4) Ruby is a completely different problem..........mainly, she experiences a lot, but it overall feels like those experiences bounce off her. They never seem to affect her in the slightest, while they do shape everyone else.

-Weiss actually decided to rebel against her dad, practice her Summons, and leave, instead of just being cute and quiet like Whitley.

-Blake acted very scaredy on the ship, and she talked with great emotion about leaving her friends and her reasons why.

-Yang, even if it was written awfully, at least showed depression initially, and even got triggered by a plate breaking.

But Ruby, meanwhile, despite 2 of her friends dying in her face, despite Beacon falling and being overrun by Grimm, and despite discovering that she's literally more Special than even freaking Maidens and has a power capable of even downright PETRIFYING ANCIENT GRIMM IN A FLASH, she feels almost-completely like her old self.

Hell, most egregiously, when Qrow is literally talking about how Salem and co. are after her because of her eyes, she doesn't ask even the slightest thing about them or show any remote interest in such power, as if she simply didn't give a fuck.

Ruby started as a character, but by now, she's pretty much a Plot Device with Legs. You see it as Ruby staying the same. I see it as Ruby putting on a mask and PRETENDING everything is the same because she doesn't know how to cope with her grief. It's subtle, but if you look for it the signs ARE there. In V2 when she wakes up to Pyrrha's voice follows it to find Jaune training to a recording of it. When she refuses to listen to Qrow's advice and REPEATEDLY gets in the way of his fight against Tyrian. And last, but not least, when she scratchs out "for the ones who are no longer here" on her letter home in the volume finale." Like I said it's subtle because in some ways the focus on those who are still living would generally be another portrayal of Ruby's characteristic optimism. However, the fact that she brings up those she lost, but then quickly scratches it out hints at something else. RWBY is trying to ignore her grief. Whenever it bubbles to the surface she pushes it aside and thinks of something else. Just like in that letter.

For what it's worth YouTube reviewet ThatKaitoDan also noticed that SAME thing about Ruby's letter when he reviewed the finale.