Board Thread:Off Topic/@comment-35691777-20180619230213/@comment-26146765-20181024195016

Bajarias.josef wrote: TEOR-MMMM wrote: As for how RHOA-JVMD will fight Cyan, mostly Dark Pestilence will, because she sees Cyan as someone close to Ruby Rose, even if its an alternate universe version of her, and thus will torment him by using Ruby Rose's powers against Cyan, and pretty much say how she can't wait to see Ruby Rose suffer in agony and misery when she kills her beloved and brings her his head. Problem is .....

By that time, Cy is already a Cross Jumper ......

Pestilence is basically fighting a humanoid eldritch abomination if that happens. Especially the death threats may backfire on her, badly.

Hell, if you compare him to the 7 deadly sins, he fits Wrath the most. Whoa there. Calm down.

If you guys are truly dedicated to wanting to create some sort of plot, you really need to change something.

Yes, I am calling your characters Mary Sues. No, not in that way.

A Mary Sue character is not just one that is overwhelmingly perfect, a Mary Sue character is one whose abilities/powers destroy the plot. So an "overpowered" character could be a Mary Sue if their abilities/powers negate the conflict, but they also could not be a Mary Sue if they are surrounded by equally powerful individuals BUT IN A WAY THAT THERE COULD BE REAL CONFLICT.

Almost every single OC on this thread and the first thread TEOR made fits this description. Each and every one of them were pulling abilities out of nowhere and/or had power levels totally off the charts. Why is this a problem? Because every so-called "battle" ended in two of us arguing "well my OC can do this" "well my OC can counter that with this." It was really, really not fun. The reason users on this wiki call a power Mary Sue-ish is because a character who is way too overpowered provides no storytelling benefit.

I think there are two solutions:

1. Scale back the power levels, or at least make it so that not every single fight is basically two of us trying to out-Sue each other.

2. Keep them where they are, and establish clear boundaries, so the next time y'all have a discussion like this, Baja doesn't just randomly inform us that Cyan is an Eldritch Abomination for the sole sake of out-Suing Pestilence.

Thank you for coming to my TED talk.