Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-27312496-20191204190600/@comment-14909251-20191207090218

Kaitryona Acheron wrote: I don't really understand why you keep using this as a defense for Cinder. It's this weird notion that if Cinder has a reason to kill, then that makes it okay. This kind of misrepresentation is beginning to feel intentional. Do you people really not get that the whole point here is that she isn't killing for sport or killing without some need? So many of you go around talking about "need" like that, but do you ever really think how the reverse would work? Cinder can't rely on the system handling people after she defeats them the way the heroes can rely on it. Any threat she doesn't eliminate is a threat that can ultimately get her killed or locked away for life some time later. None of this is about right, wrong or "okay" as such black-and-white thinking doesn't reflect the complexities of the situation. Villains who have the heroes right where they want them and then punt the ball are the source of repeated jokes for a reason.

Cinder's reasons for killing are always the same: to extend her murderous rampage. Such rank dishonesty. Nothing suggests Cinder's goals have anything to do with killing. Cinder wants power and that is presumably because she grew up being abused by those with power over her. That isn't a justification, in case someone such as yourself decides to dishonestly frame it as one. It is the reality of her character and if people are going to make audacious arguments about Cinder being worse than Tyrian, then it needs to be understood. One other thing about their inspirations is that all but Tyrian are fundamentally good characters. So, the real trick for most of them is that they are only villains because Salem intervened in their lives. Tyrian, however, was always a villain based on his inspiration. He is just a murderer who found an excuse to keep murdering.

73.Anon.52 wrote: I'd greatly dispute that there is also nothing indicating Salem is Watts Sherlock either, especially as it was the writers who sated Watts is a Watson that never met his Sherlock and instead met Moriarty, nothing in their relationship indicates Sherlock/Watson in the slightest. Oh, please. You know perfectly well I was not saying Salem is Sherlock. Don't try to "win points" with these kinds of games.