Talk:Hazel Rainart/@comment-26160399-20180121192904/@comment-27653900-20180212140932

I don’t think that we know the entire story. Hazel would have to know that Grimm killed his sister and that Salem controls the Grimm, therefore Salem killed his sister. But the fact is that the circumstances surrounding Gretchen’s death make no sense.

We know she died on a training mission, but what kind of training mission would it be to kill her? Even Jaune survived his time at Beacon (granted we never saw him go on a mission, but he fought at the Breach which might as well count) and the dude didn’t even know what Aura was. Ozpin makes it sound like she had previous experience before coming to Beacon (since she and Hazel had talked about it), so how could someone who didn’t know how to fight survive longer than someone who did?

Besides, Hazel apparently didn’t want to get involved with the Huntsmen but still has his aura unlocked and his ridiculous strength. I doubt that Ozpin or his sister unlocked it, and unless he was a bodybuilder before her death he has no reason to be that strong.

Basically, I think a mission went so very wrong and she wasn’t actually killed by Grimm (bandits or terrorists, just some form of human or Faunus), then Salem or another member of the Dark Cabal found him and manipulated him to become what he is now.

Hell, maybe even one of Salem’s minions like Tyrian killed her.

Tl;dr: Gretchen’s death wasn’t as simple as Ozpin made it sound.