Board Thread:Episode Discussion/@comment-34633327-20171118002715/@comment-2600:1017:B109:B1AD:949A:19A0:FFF9:6040-20171120004538

Two episodes ago I was wondering if Raven was going to be able to plant seeds of doubt into Weiss and Yang, but it looks like I'll have to wait a little longer to see if it affects their trust in Oz and Qrow. Right now all we've seen them be is shellshock at finding out about Salem and Magic actually existing.

Speaking of the magic, Raven basic confirmed that Ozpin gave her and her brother the ability to transform into birds. That and her saying that she once trusted him in "igniting the fire" makes me believe that she and the rest of team STRQ did do the kind of work that only Qrow is doing now. And that she likely left because of fatigue. This entire episode she implied that Ozpin's big dark secret is a war that's impossible to win (despite how much fuel she could throw on the fire if she implied the Oscar/Ozpin situation was more akin to a hostile take over).

I think Raven may have believed in Ozpin once, but then became discouraged that lives were being lost or sacrificed to maintain the status quo of a never-ending war. Maybe it happened over time maybe it was because of a tramuatic incident, but one day she probably said "no matter how hard you try, you can't save everyone." Now she's just focusing on the survival of herself and her people.

-Defcon Deceiver