Board Thread:Off Topic/@comment-27144409-20160815140118/@comment-25936766-20180112201724

Ystanev wrote:

1) I don't know if this applies here, but servants  are   immune to conventional weapons, you can only damage them with magic based attack.

2) And whole Mooncell issue and Divine Constracts seems like BS to me because it's broken on regular bases, Shirou projects Excabicur in Heaven's Feel, somehow in Fate route Caliburn which is a B rank NP kills Berserk 7 times over and than we have Kaleid Shirou  doing this . 1) They are not immune, they are just so horrendously powerful that anything that isn't magically-strengthened one way or another is practically guaranteed to do nothing even to the weakest Servant.

The weapon in itself doesn't mean that much aside from that. Sure, bullets will bounce off a Servant without achieving anything, but the moment Lancelot grabs a gun, that gun's shots will be perfectly capable of wrecking Servants thanks to his Noble Phantasm.

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2) Funny how you mention the Moon Cell and yet both of your examples have nothing to do with the Moon Cell. (The Moon Cell is Fate/EXTRA and Fate/Extella, in case you forgot)

Archer - and thus Shiro - has always been able to project Excalibur. Archer himself has no problems projecting Caladbolg which is pretty much Proto-Excalibur (or at least Excalibur Galatine).

However, using Excalibur is more or less suicide due to the amount of energy it would demand if one wanted to do what Saber does. He doesn't have "the heart of a Dragon" to generate the absurd amount of energy Arturia does, after all.

.........That said, one thing you need to remember about Shiro in Fate/Stay Night, is that he has Avalon inside him. Which is, quite literally, the reason he didn't die when he was killed. Even when he was sliced in 2 from shoulder to waist.

And Avalon's healing effect overlaps with UBW causing blades to grow from Shiro's body, covering the injury and providing good armor...and being horrendously painful, at points able to kill him.

As for Caliburn....do note that while it is weaker than Excalibur in itself, it is still a pretty damn strong sword. And in fact, can reach a level of power just as good as Excalibur, though the sword is not as capable of enduring said power.