Board Thread:Speculation House/@comment-25266931-20161109232722/@comment-25110963-20161110074343

@KNN005: You seem to be forgetting that Cinder's plan for the dragon wasn't her plan alone. She was the instrument to carry out the plan. A carefully placed plan mind you. What everyone else says makes sense so what don't you get?

It's not that the heroes aren't smart, they just weren't prepared. Salem and her associates planned so far in advance, enacted the plans so precisely, even having Cinder reworking the plan on the fly to their advantage that Ozpin and theothers had very few options to counter.

Think of this as a game. Salem and Ozpin are the players. Everyone else the game pieces. Cinder would have used the dragon as per Salem's plan to decimate Beacon and Vale as they wanted, but Ruby comes in as the wild card. I personally agree with Phantomlink's theory on their plans but the villains did not lose. You can have the most perfect plan in the world, be the best strategist in the world, but it is impossible to prepare for EVERY event. You just can't. Sometimes there will be the unforeseen twist.

Cinder didn't leave because she was flaunting her power, she just wasn't finished with the job. Pyrrha was just the immediate annoyance she could afford to get rid of at her leisure, Ruby was not. Had CInder done what she needed to do with the dragon without interference, she would have likely left immediately. It's just how it seems: luck.

Ultimately Cinder's loss wasn't a setback, it just changed the plan but still has the same goal. Cinder was in control for most of the attack except for the very end with Ruby. They were winning, but Ruby stopped them from losing the game when they were very close to losing it all.