Board Thread:Episode Discussion/@comment-5430952-20181103172633/@comment-4141313-20181110022142

SomeoneYouUsedToKnow wrote: BlizzardDragon wrote:

1) In Remnant, names mean everything, so her having the same name as two already existing characters doesn't seem like a coincidence.

2) Besides, physical apperance isn't a dealbreaker.....Hair color, well you can say the same about Ruby and Yang.

3) They look very little alike..................

4) I actually wouldn't be surprised if Junior was a Spider, since most of his body is covered by his suit his tattoo would easily be hidden, and he and the Twins would be Lil' Miss' Connection in Vale while she works in Mistral.

5) Bottling it up for later though I think would be worse, considering the negative feelings would fester and still attract the Grimm. Wouldn't it make more sense to get it out in the open and resolve it so there is less trouble down the line?

6) Hell, OZPIN seems to be the biggest source of Negative Feelings at the moment, what with his feelings on humanity, self-loathing, anger over them meeting Jinn, and the fact he attempted to Bum Rush Ruby in sheer rage.

7) Yang's still suffering from dealing with Raven so she'd be extra careful around anyone even if family outside of Ruby, 1) If they even remember these two exist...

2) They are half-sisters though, they should look rather different from each other. Or did you mean Taiyang?

4) Fun fact: You know how Yakuza always go around in fancy suits?

5) Actually, no. Unless MK are willing to defy Chekhov's Gun again, between the Relic and the outburst of negativity, they should be getting attacked. Once that happens their discussion will be interrupted, and likely left for later after the reminder that they can't just have the talk before getting to safe ground.

And besides, things only got truly negative once Yang unleashed her inner Jaune and ranted at Ozpin. Before that they would've been relatively fine. The last 2 things there wouldn't have even happened if Yang didn't try to start a fight.

6) First of all, he only got that negative after multiple minutes of being directly antagonized and criticized by Yang, for both reasonable things (not telling them the Relic attracts Grimm) and for no reason at all but to paint him as an ass (hiding Leo's betrayal so that people remember him for who he used to be). Let's be honest here, if you were being treated like that you would get mad too.

The "anger over them meeting Jinn"....you know, the very fact that they actually tried to call Jinn means that they really don't trust him at all, which is got to hurt, but then you add the fact that Jinn's showing them Salem's tale, and it's not hard to see that he was trying to avoid them asking Jinn because he knew it would lead to that, which looks very, very personal. Also he didn't look angry at all when he rushed at Ruby. Just desperate.

As for his "feelings on humanity".....what do you mean by that? (And I really do mean this question, the power went out a while after I saw the ep and I don't feel like going to Pornhub to try to watch it again to recheck)

7) Raven was an asshole, Blizzard. She abandoned her all her life, insulted the people who've been there for her all her life, and outright made a plan that put Yang's life at risk along with everyone else.

Meanwhile, Qrow's been there all her life, she knows him about as much as Ruby. Why would she distrust him enough to actually think he might attack her? "Being extra-careful" is bullshit here because Qrow's the opposite of a stranger for Yang.

As for Blake and Weiss....Blake's had at least 2 weeks to know him and Weiss had at least 3 weeks living in the same house as him. Blake was at least ready to draw out her sword if need be, but Weiss was outright threatening Qrow there. She should know him enough to not be that paranoid. 1) Conceded.

2) No, I meant Yang, but even if only half-sisters, you think they'd inherit some similarities from their common parent, Tai. Except Ruby shares no similarities with Yang or Tai. This is one of the reasons why that dumb "Qrow is Ruby's Father" theory happened, because Ruby looks virtually nothing like her biologic family.

4) That's probably the point. Maybe Junior and Lil Miss aren't publically connected, so this way in the event something happens that compromises Junior's operation, it can't be tied back to Lil' Miss.

5) Not Necessary to worry about, as when Jinn came out, the snow stopped falling in mid air, meaning time is frozen right now for them. So long as that's the case, they can have their chat before any Grimm even notice them.

6) The Feelings on Humanity part came after his rant on being betrayed, starting from a question from Ruby:

Ruby: So all those times you talked about having faith in humanity... that was just for everyone else?

Ozpin: That's not what I meant to suggest.

Except he never clarifies what he meant. And just beforehand he said:

Ozpin: I feared that making you all aware would only add anxiety and negativety. It seemed like the safer option.

He also uses this reasoning to justify not telling what Leonardo did. He pretty much admitted the reason he doesn't tell anyone the truth, the reason he lies, is to keep people placated and positive. He doesn't actually believe it though, hence why he didn't actually explain what he meant to suggest. He was more focused on getting the Relic and making sure the others don't find out what he's hiding. Oscar and him share a mind now, and whatever Ozpin was thinking, he clearly didn't agree with it.

Oscar: He's trying to stop you!

Yang: Stop her from what?!

Oscar: He's afraid you'll find out what he's hiding! Her name is Jinn, say her name to summon it.

7) This doesn't have to do with our perceptions of Raven, and I admit you are right about her. This has to do with Yang's perceptions about her. She just had an emotional confrontation with her about 2 weeks ago, and still hasn't told anyone she's really Spring. She's naturally still abit shellshocked over the idea that the mother she was looking for for so long, the woman her dad only said great things about, was nothing but a lie. Knowing Qrow has little baring since anyone can lie about who they are, and since Qrow is clearly one of Ozpin's followers, Yang would naturally be warry of him despite knowing him for so long.

To use an example, say you had a brother you spent all your life with until you both went off to college, then you lost touch. You went on to become a police officer and ran into him working for a gang. Do you trust him enough to come quietly and help you stop the gang due to knowing him for so long, or do you worry he may be more loyal to the gang than he is to his brother?

As for Blake and Weiss, we can only make assumptions. For all we know, Blake spent more time catching up with her team, JNR, and helping her parents and Ilia with the new movement as much as she could before going to Atlas, barely seeing Qrow in the process. For Weiss, well, she put it best:

Weiss: You know, I'm getting real tired of people choosing what's best for me.

Doesn't matter if she got to know him in several weeks, soon as someone starts trying to dictate whats best for her like Jacques did, she'll immediately be on guard.