Board Thread:Episode Discussion/@comment-4141313-20181229081856/@comment-25936766-20190110011015

BlizzardDragon wrote:

1) I wasn't talking from an in story perspective

2) I was saying that in the end the writers decide if they are redeemable, regardless of what they did.

3) The Tukson thing is hypothetical, therefore from what we were given,his only similarity to Blake is his attempt to run, since Blake wanted to change things, where as far as we know Tukson just wanted to run after it got too grim.

4) The Penny argument was that we all know she's coming back, and if she does, then her death is ultimately less a mark against them since she was easily rebuilt 1) Yes you were. You argued that the only things the heroes could hate them for were Yang breaking Merc's leg and Penny's death. And that "everyone blamed Cinder for it because Ruby blah blah blah".

2) That's a supremely lazy argument. It's pretty much the same as saying "I give up".

I could say that Ironwood's Semblance is to turn into a magical girl who looks like an 8 year old and can summon stuffed animals and shoot rainbow beams. "In the end the writers decide if this happens, so it's not out of the question, no matter how absurd it is".

Obviously the writers have the final say in what happens, be it reasonable or stupid, but trying to excuse anything with that just makes all discussion pointless. We're talking about Merc and Em being "(believably) redeemable", the writers being the ones who decide it is the elephant in this room.

3) Except Blake did the exact same thing for the exact same reason. She didn't even decide to "change the WF" until Volume 4.

And even if Tukson didn't try to change the terrorist organization that follows a crazy yandere faunus supremacist for no discernible reason, the mere fact that he didn't want to remain a racist terrorist says nothing but positive things about him.

4) Except not at all. She still died. Emerald still manipulated Pyrrha so she would kill Penny by accident, and she still did it with no fucks at all. Even if Penny came back 20 times, Emerald's involvement in her death remains intact.