Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-62.155.218.241-20171021220319/@comment-27082610-20171110122430

95.133.43.25 wrote: No proof then. The only proof could be the RT commentary or Blake winning actual fight versus Ruby/Yang/Weiss. The rest is just your assumptions.

1) Yang argument is valid because loosing the 1-on-1 fight doesn't necessary mean that you are weak - it may mean that you faced the worst kind of opponent for you. That was about Neo with her evasive fighting style, and Neon, with her speed and "hit and leap" fighting style.

2) Weiss argument is valid because... Well, during V4x10 she handeled way better than Blake - even just with her ordinary glyphs and sword fighting style.

3) Ruby argument is valid because we have never seen anyone in RWBY except Yang fighting without their weapon. The only hint of Blake being fine with hand-to-hand combat is V4, the part with Ilia, her scroll and Sun.

I have to say, Blake has another weakness that was discussed a long ago: she usually gets stunned after direct hits. That was in Black Trailer, in V4x11 with Adam, in V1 (in Emerald Forest) etc. We here, on wiki, thought that this weakness was caused by her evasive fighting style - she've got used to evade hits with the help of her shadow clones, so when she actually gets thouse hits herself, she gets stunned.

And it's also rather symbolic. I gues, if Blake wants to improve, she has to stop using her shadow clones just to take damage for her (the defensive function) and start to fight by them (the attacking function). I liked some Blake's moves in RWBY: Grimm Eclipse, where she used her shadow clones to make double/multiple hits in a short period of time. I want to see smth similiar in the show.

And talking about her shadows: in V1-2 they were quite unstable, disappearing really quickly after being hit or used as a "platform". In V3x1 Blake cheats Reese with a clone, standing still far away from Blake. What happened in V3x11 still isn't clear - some people assume Blake creating both her and Yang's clones to distract Adam, thouh I doubt it. But still: that Blake's clone lasted longer than the clones she had before. In V5x3 her clone isn't a passive "shield"/"platform" for her: it moves to throw her higher. So it is somehow active now.

And, again: such kind of development would be symbolic for her. Everything we've seen about her character before in the series was defense and self-defense, she fought back all the time. Now I'd really like her to make first step in fighting. Because Blake really needs to get out from under the shadow of others. 1) It's not just Neo. Literally, every agile fighter she tried to step up to past the Malachites was handing her her shit. She only won against Mercury because he threw the fight, Neon because of pure luck, and Arslan because she had her team backing her up.

2)... Weiss never fought anyone in V4. What are you even talking about? And anyway, Weiss, before Volume 5 had literally no solo wins after the Boarbatusk. She got her ass beat by a guy we don't even have an actual name for he's so goddam irrelevant.

3) I really don't get what the point of addressing each of these is if you're just going to agree with me every time.

I'm not saying Blake doesn't need to improve, but I am saying she was bar none the best solo fighter on her team. She was much more versatile, had dodges for days, had one of the most versatile weapons in the show, and had already single-handedly kicked one of the main villains at the time's shit in.

@73: No it is not likely Blake would loose, because as I've said multiple times, up to V3 Yang barely had an actual fighting style to speak of and got wrecked by every agile fighter she went up againt past her trailer.

Neo: Do I even need to explain this one?

Arslan: Yang didn't even land a punch during their exchange and spent half of it on her ass getting whipped up and down like a fucking marionette.

Neon: Literally won by a combination of temper tantrum and pure luck.

Mercury: She almost lost to a guy who threw the fight. That's just sad.

As for in-universe, none of RWBY have lauded Yang as being above them, they only put her in there because she has that bullshit spam button of a Semblance, despite all of the above shit-kickings.