Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-36526195-20180809201505/@comment-26018514-20180810053830

SomeoneYouUsedToKnow wrote: Arkantos95 wrote: Right, Raven really needs some comeuppance for being literally the most successfully proactive character who wasn't' an antagonist. No, she needs some comeuppance for her combination of:

1) Abandoning her daughter for no real reason for more than a decade...

2) Being perfectly willing to sacrifice said daughter along with her own brother...

3) Trying to turn a scared...

4) Considering she's the current Spring Maiden...

1. Well tbf, for the last decade it is entirely possible she was avoiding Yang to prevent thinking about her or growing attached in a way that might make her the new maiden should Raven die... and in the former years she may well have been avoiding Taiyang with his reaction to Qrow being on speaking terms with her.

2. Yang and Qrow both made their decision... which was to protect the relic from Salem, even at the cost of their lives... which would have been the result had Raven succeeded in that plan to the letter, whereas if she hadn't made that plan her tribe members(or the relic... possibly both) would have been lost... and they didn't make that choice.

3. There was no indication she wanted a sociopath... she did want an independent tribes-member that wouldn't betray her but would kill if necessary.

4. There is still NO indication of the type of death spring had... for all we know she was having night-terrors or sleeping after a brutal training Raven tried doing to drill survival skills into her when Raven killed her, committed suicide after or died during such circumstances.