Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-168.103.228.28-20150809162836/@comment-25555436-20150810025138

168.103.228.28 wrote: Lots of things Okay, I see a bit of ignorance regarding how you took some of my words. Mainly in points 1 and 3.

1-I said Pyrrha being likely to die was not because she was a mentor. I never said she was not a mentor. Very different things.

2-The hell do you think this is? Dragonball? If they can beat Cinder after getting to such a high level of power, fine. But what after that? If they reach such level of power, then the Grimm will become even more of a joke compared to them, making them an even lesser threat. And if another villain comes, trashes them, and they choose to train and all that shit to beat the villain, the show will fall into one of the biggest clichés of Shonen Anime, present in just about every single well-known series of that type. Dragonball, Bleach, Naruto, and many other, lesser ones. Do you want that?

And if Cinder can rob someone's Aura and Semblance without killing them somehow, she is still basically invincible because without those anyone is hopeless against her. Aura is not just a shield, it's the one thing that prevents Hunters from being crushed when hit by a hammer, from being sliced to bits with a single slash, and the one thing that even allows them to pull all the physics-defying bullshit such as firing a high-caliber sniper rifle without breaking their arm.

And Cinder by herself is much better than them. If they lost their Aura to her, they are doomed, simple as that, and any victory would just be a Deus Ex Machina, one of the worst kinds of sollutions that can be done in a fictional work.

3-I said the trope is not attributed to Mary Sues, I never said it never applied to them. Big difference. -_- Plus, using the trope on an Ace does not turn them or even make them seem like a Mary Sue, unless the Ace is already a Mary Sue.