Talk:Winter's Swords/@comment-72.130.208.61-20151210061631/@comment-72.130.208.61-20151210064241

http://www.thearma.org/Youth/rapieroutline.htm#.VmkXAxorKuU

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkSouls2/comments/2g5ewo/the_dark_souls_weapons_the_estoc_a_look_at_the/

http://www.weapons-universe.com/Swords/Swords_of_the_Renaissance.shtml

I mean, look at any picture of an estoc. They are far longer than Winter's secondary weapon. It's more proper to simply call it a rapier. And no, an estoc is not a rapier. Two very different things.