Talk:James Ironwood/@comment-28522425-20161006050445

Chances are that he fell in disgrace after the Fall of Beacon, right?

I mean, the last thing most of the world saw of Vale was it being attacked by Ironwood's army, and Cinder called him a tyrant during her speech.

I bet that he was stripped of his position as general and headmaster by the council of Atlas.

Sure, there will probably be a lot of soldiers loyal to him, like Winter, but he will not be an ally as useful as he used to be.