Board Thread:Speculation House/@comment-34633327-20171002160810/@comment-14138255-20171101004217

@Majora: if you want you could, but it isn't out of hand until it gets out of hand.

@Soarel: They are NOT the same, not from everything seen on the show. Ozpin is the leader of a shadow cabal secretly keeping things from the people. True. But it's all to ensure the continued existence of civilization as we know it against an enemy they have fought since the beginning of time.

Cinder meanwhile has joined Salem's own shadow council and is set on destroying the kingdoms of the world and has succeeded in one, killing numerous people only wanting to live in peace.