Board Thread:Episode Discussion/@comment-26397825-20171028154114/@comment-34633327-20171029050948

Andrew.nguyen.14473 wrote: Pretty cool episode lot of development and world building going on. I just got a few notes.

Menagerie:

1. Ghira trying to sway public faunus opinion was great scene though it could've been more persuasive.

2. Then Ilia ruined it with her typical Humanity is evil, we're treated like slaves, the Belladonna's are traitors. Given their is some merit to her words for the past treatment of Faunus workers and people in gerenal

3. I find her and the White Fang very hypocritical. Afterall, They work with humans to achieve a Faunus superiorty agenda, helped released Grimm into Beacon and caused its Fall alongside crippling Vale,

4. and continue to wear the mask of genocidal monsters that want to destroy all life.

5. Seriously, there whole cause is just one big hypocrasy after another especially now that Adam murdered Sienna Khan (RIP) for power and control being no better then humans he and the White Fang claims are evil. Hopefully, Blake will gather support against Adam this volume. 1. There's not much more he could have done. Blake's testimony was supposed to help, but then she was cut off.

2. Except unlike the blank mooks, Ilia has every right to believe it, considering the people she was surrounded by as a child. And we have no idea how much of Adam's real behavior, like working with Salem's forces or the direct effects of Beacon, she is actually aware of. Keep in mind that she is the Token Good Teammate/Lighter Shade of Black. Also need to keep in mind that it seemed she didn't want to do this, as she did bother to warn Blake and try and dissuade her, making this more of a last resort. Miles even said in the V4 commentary Miles: Something that's fun with Ilia is that and that we'll continue to explore is, up to this point a lot of our White Fang members have been very clearly on one side of (Kerry: Um hm) the spectrum and here we have somebody from the White Fang that, has some internal conflict, um about y'know, who they're fighting and, how they're gonna do it like she, you see her struggling all the way up to this point about whether or not she wants to actually attack Blake. ' so she isn't as bad as the other members.

3. And it isn't the WF that are hypocritical, its just Adam's sector. Sienna's forces hated humans too, and only betrayed her after Adam managed to convince them. Again, Adam's Agenda, and one he didn't start off with willingly.

4. Remember Blake said they were Adam's idea. Do you really expect anything from Adam to not be messed up?

Sorry but seeing some of the comments on the video page about losing sympathy for Ilia, it's ticking me off that people tend to ignore/overlook the underlying factors.