Board Thread:Episode Discussion/@comment-26512661-20200125162058/@comment-4010415-20200201163121

I don't get why people act like Raven curbstomped Cinder. The two were toe-to-toe with each other, which is impressive on Cinder's part, since she only had about 1.5 to 2 years of experience whereas Raven had somewhere in the ballpark of 10 years. And it's not like Raven was twiddling her thumbs and doing nothing with the Spring Maiden powers. Qrow himself said that he felt the damage in Shion Village was done with the help of a Maiden.

Cinder and Raven were on pretty even footing despite this and even took turns breaking each other's swords, which displayed the raw physical power that both of them had.

Regardless of how Cinder has been shafted by storytelling, she still kicked ass in her fight against Raven, so the show is not treating her like she's suddenly weaker. She's just arrogant.

Also, Vine is over here lookin' like Squidward trying to dance.