Talk:Cinder Fall/@comment-1446360-20190226181816/@comment-24018437-20190226213916

Exactly. No backstory, no matter how tragic, justifies or excuses all the things she's done. Cinder has only done two 'good' things.


 * She looked disturbed when Tyrian tortured a Beowolf. For some reason, people view this as her being redemption material...I don't see. If I saw an insane, sobbing and screaming and eventually laughing scorpion man violently beat a werewolf, I'd be disturbed as well. This isn't so much as Cinder suddenly having a concious. Its just her being disturbed by how much of a psycopath Tyrian is. In the next scene we see her, she's seen burning illusions of Ruby again.
 * She took in Emerald and Mercury. However, its clear that she only views them as pawns and had selfish motives, something Emerald doesn't realize. You once said that Cinder cares about Emerald and Mercury, Thunder. But its more then clear that Cinder just uses them as henchman. She isn't afraid to get psychially abusive with them either, as evidenced by the fact she slapped Emerald when she 'forgot her place'. Does that sound like a caring friend or mother-figure to you?

As for all the bad things she did...Honestly, that list is extremely long.