Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-44248215-20191113060242/@comment-44248215-20191115152839

Megadracosaurus wrote: That's...not what I said at all. I said that if you take extremely generic events and apply them to something, of course you're bound to get similarities. Imperialism connects to a lot of nations (even modern day China is pretty imperalistic in how they treat Tibet, Mongolia, Hong Kong and Taiwan. By your own logic, Atlas should therefore allude to China), and a rebellion and major shift in goverment can also be applied to a pretty massive amount of countries. Likewise, the argument for 'unity among nations' can also be compared to the United Nations or European Union.

Let's take a biological example. Predators that hunt fast prey are generally pretty fast themselves. That's a generic and common trait. By your logic, all fast-moving animals would therefore be related because they happen to share one or two extremely generic traits. And a single glance at a sailfish, cheetah and peregrine falcon (who are all very fast animals) will prove that simply isn't true.

It honestly sounds like you want Vale and Atlas to allude to China and the USA respectively because of personal reasons, because the 'evidence' you present is extremely lacking, non-specific, generic, coincidental and ultimaltely just doesn't prove anything to the point you make stuff up, such as Vale's naval tradition and aggresive expansion, even though we have little to no evidence those are a thing. Honestly, at the moment, Atlas seems to have more in common with China at the moment.

Vale's naval tradition comes from its geography,which is much too simliar with Genoa and Constantinople.Genoa was a naval repubilc and its naval tradition was forged by its terrain.Byzantine Empire,too,had strong navy.

Have you ever mentioned that any details about history or culture of Vale were being ignored?So what we can rely on is mainly deduction,analogy and induction,which is not very reliable and would be heavily affected by personal ideas.

For Atlas,USA is the only superpower on Earth like Atlas is the only superpower on Remnant.The bridge that connects Argus and its Atlesian base is even alluded from the Golden Gate Bridge of San Francisco.USA had energy monopoly like Stardand Oil while Atlas has Schnee Dust Company,which is also a energy monopoly.Finally,for imperialism,every powerful enough nations and Kingdoms have done that and have blood tainted their hands,but USA is the strongest-what USA have done in Iraq and Afghanistan is too simliar to what Mantle(SDC) have done in Vacuo,which has desert enviroment like Iraq.

Vale is shrouded in mystery and its allusion is questionable,but I am sure Atlas alludes USA