Talk:Oscar Pine/@comment-125.238.174.45-20180325010534/@comment-125.238.174.45-20180414043746

Just because he doesn't use the same methods as Salem or Cinder doesn't mean he's not a cult leader. He's simply using more sophisticated methods to get what he wants.

As mentioned above he may not be a cult leader in the traditional sense of the word, but he does seem to have some very disturbing similarities to one. He's got a massive amount of influence out there in the world. Far more then a simple Headmaster should be able to have. And the group that he surrounds himself with, particularly Qrow and Glynda, seem to have an almost fanatical loyalty to him.

I still remember that one scene in Volume 3 when Ozpin's telling Pyrrha about the Maidens and Glynda, Qrow, and Ironwood are suddenly there surrouding her. It's almost like they were there to prevent her from escaping if it became necessary. That whole scene legitimately gave me chills and made me realize just how much of a threat Ozpin and his group could potentially be if they were ever compromised.

And then there's that part with Raven who tried to warn Yang that Ozpin and his people cannot be trusted. While I'm 70 percent sure that that was simply an attempt to manipulate her, I can't help but feel that maybe she was telling the truth as well. Maybe Raven found out just how twisted Ozpin and his crew really were and that's the real reason she left all those years ago.

Hell, even the way he interacts with his students seems kind of dodgy to me, particularly the way he talks with Ruby and her team. Constantly bending the rules to ensure that they continue to sabotage Salem's plans, implied to have knowledge of Blake's Faunus heritage and her connections to the White Fang and maybe willing to blackmail her with it should the need ever arise, keeping a young woman in a coma to ensure her gift doesn't enter a possible enemy instead of letting her die peacefully, and probably loads of other shady activities.

Ozpin may not be a villain. Maybe he even genuinelly believes that the things he does is for the greater good. But he's far from the white knight that everybody else seems to view him as. In fact, he seems more gray to me.