Board Thread:Episode Discussion/@comment-34633327-20171216025048/@comment-2001:8A0:D22C:4501:855D:AF6F:E44A:53F8-20171217001350

128.62.78.88 wrote: So, Leo defected not because Salem had something on him, but simply because he lost hope and gave into fear. This is somewhat unexpected. Also, I totally expected Ghira to die and Ilia to go into a yandere-induced rage, so kudos to Miles and Kerry for not doing that. Finally, when Corsac was facing them and growling that they ruined everything, I expected him to have some suicide attack ready. Ah well, I'm just glad the Menagerie arc has been resolved. Ok, I have to ask: did people really think Ghira was going to die? 'Cause he seems pretty strong. Ând we know that the Haven battle so far as: Watts, Cinder, Hazel, Adam and White Fang, Mercury and Em vs Qrow and kids. Well, Tyrian alone managed to take care of 4 kids all by himself wihout any effort, can't imagine how the 4 kids + Weiss and Yang would be much more of a challenge to Cinder, Watts or Hazel (even with Sun+Blake joining the team, which will happen, probably). I imagine that Adam is somewhat weaker than them. Wild cards: Leo (who can still change his mind), Raven and Vernal (who will take whatever side suits them the most) and Oscar/Ozpin (because it's hard to tell how strong they are at least in "Ozpin phase")

It seems kinda obvious the good guys need more people on their side who are strong, otherwise they're screwed. I guess that team (+Sun+Blake) would have a chance if Raven, Vernal and Leo all decided to join them, but if they don't, then, there really is only one realistic scenario for that battle - every good guy dies (well, 2: retreat for some would also be an option)