Board Thread:Episode Discussion/@comment-148.253.184.233-20200128130653/@comment-14909251-20200214004612

Guedjroy wrote: It's not really relevant at the end of the day. Even if Gretchen wasn't killed by a Grimm (which is highly unlikely, because there aren't a whole lot of hazards at Beacon that aren't Grimm-related), she had still dedicated her life to fighting Grimm and, by extension, Salem. Joining Salem is a besmirchment of her memory, and Hazel should know that.

It would be like if a loved one were killed in an accident in a WWII training camp, while preparing to fight the Nazis. And out of rage, you join the Nazis to avenge their death. It's insanely stupid. Well, it is relevant in one sense. If Grimm were involved in her death then it is quite plausible Salem was involved in her death. One of my other theories is that Salem targeted every member of WTCH for recruitment by interfering in their stories. At this point, the key factor in every character's life turning out different from their allusion has been the apparent absence of a character who shaped the outcome.

Tyrian's frog was pulled off the transport (likely by Lionheart), Hazel's Gretel died (plausibly by Grimm), and obviously Cinder didn't get sent to a ball by a Fairy Godmother where she fell in love with a princess who ultimately married her. Watts presumably lost his Sherlock at some point and it makes sense a Sherlock-type character might be eliminated as a threat to Salem.

For Tyrian this probably means nothing and it might not matter much to Watts, but for Hazel this would be a significant detail if Gretchen was actually targeted for death by Salem specifically because she wanted Hazel to join up with her. Could be significant for Cinder as well since her life is the one that would have seen the most drastic improvement had things gone the right way.