Talk:Raven Branwen/@comment-26306690-20181102234947/@comment-25936766-20181105230255

1) Raven being right about Ozpin has absolutely nothing to do with whether she really loves her daughter at all or not.

2) Ozpin forgot to tell them that the Relic attracts Grimm. That's horrendously stupid but not really something worth siding against him, at least while Salem is still around.

And Raven can't say shit because she was also making up lies and half-truths. Like telling Yang that Ozpin gave them the power to turn into birds (a moral event horizon....somehow), while deliberately skipping the fact that Qrow and Raven actually asked for that power.

And no matter how right Raven is about Ozpin skipping facts unless directly asked about them, that doesn't change a thing, because Ozpin still hasn't, say, gone out of his way to sell out the heroes to Salem and possibly get them killed just to live another day.