Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-174.135.62.244-20160603201323/@comment-25936766-20160713002825

190.213.244.46 wrote: 1-Honestly I dont understand how point 5 can be used to prove Jaune's possible sueness.'Look,He is to  able to  kill something (with help) that 2 other cast member killed without effort.Total Sue!'

2-On point 6 Ruby was chosen under the same logic.So not really helping.

3-On the 4th.His Aura hasn't helped him from getting his ass kicked.He as the worst singles battle ratio of the cast.Not really a Sue trait.

4-Point 3 is a souce of conflict for him. Did you even read what I said? Those points were to show how Jaune was superior to Miles, not how he was a Sue. Hell, if you bothered to read the end of the post you would see that I said "he does seem pretty Gary-Stuish". Seem, I never said he was.

Now, for the rest...

1-Wish fulfillment. Let's say you were bullied in high school and the bully never paid for it. So you make a story, where, with some amount of importance to the plot, is being bullied, but unlike you, you write the story so the bully does pay for it, by the character's hand, directly or indirectly.

2-So what? We're not talking about Ruby, we're talking about Jaune. Just because someone else was chosen under the same logic means nothing. Plus, the criticism is mostly directed at the logic out-of-universe. As if the writers couldn't give Jaune more leaderous traits back then beyond "good tactical skill that is mostly just seeing the obvious oportunities".

3-Does not change the fact he has a lot of Aura, something so special it was apparently worth mentioning by Pyrrha, 4-times champion. And by extension, lots of potential. His Aura is just weak because it's like a muscle that was never trained. Like having 100 HP but nearly no defense. Of course it hasn't helped him much. But that's something else entirely.

4-As much of a source of conflict as Ruby's mom being dead.

@Mini: 1-The real trope name is "Author Avatar", but writers are often guilty of it as well.

2-Monty planned things, but he didn't write the episodes much. He discussed the ideas with M&K, then he left them to actually flesh them out and write them while he sticked to animation. And thus, these 2 are the ones guilty of anything regarding the writing, be it good or bad. Jaune included.