Board Thread:Off Topic/@comment-27144409-20160226002630/@comment-27819658-20161022025718

Nikoli the rebel wrote: Arkantos95 wrote: AlesterII wrote: I came here to see how many people put Adam at the top of their list haha!

I hate none of the villains, none of them have yet to really given us a reason to hate them all that much. I know why most people hate Adam and that's easy bumblebee. No, people hate Adam because he's a vindictive sadist who explicitly stated that he wants to kill everyone Blake loves, and because he severly fucked up two fan favorites with an honest-to-God smile on his face. The people who hated him before Volume 3 for anything besides being emo af can suck it. Personally I thought it was refreshing to see an unrepentant lunatic as a villain in what had previously been somewhat of a lackluster cast of antagonists. I would like to note that when I say lackluster, I mean that despite the uniqueness of the villains themselves, none of them really jumped out at me at any particular moment in the show besides Torchwick. Ditto. The authors are supposed to get the audience love to hate villians (like Adam) or I hate to love villians (like Roman). I felt nothing when Cinder, Emerald, Mercury, or Salem get screen time. It isn't that we haven't had enough time with them because we barely have any time with Adam and but the audience to hate him with a burning passion.

No, the problem is that Cinder has this "always on" sweet, yet threatening thing going on and it started out being cool/smooth/interesting but when she only has that one emotion then she becomes pretty bland. With Roman we got the full range of emotions. He was frustrated with Ruby, jealous of Emerald's pickpocketing, scared of Cinder, and cavalier in a prison cell, talking to Ironwood. I could name other instances but he is a relateable character.

I like Adam because in just one scene he changed the plot and our characters more than Cinder was able to do in the first 2 and a half volumes. Cinder's faction is important, yes, but their scenes were bland. Most of their scenes consisted of standing/sitting in a room and talking. It wasn't until the end half of V3 (after 2 years) that they actually moved the plot forward and forced somebody to make a difficult decision. From the moment we meet Adam he is already forcing our protagonits to make difficult decisions.

As it stands now, Cinder, Emerald, Neo, and Mercury could very well become good antagonists but their earlier writers have stained thier reputation in my mind. You expressed my rather...idk indifference to Ciner and her vauge as hell plan of...idk fucking shit up I guess. While Roman I acutally liked for the very same reasons you stated he was very human, as a viallian he displayed everything we as people are emotions and faults.

Yet what is the point of a vallian who is a dick for the sake of being a dick don't get me wrong those can work. But my point is the writer made it a point that Adam didn't start out this way, so my thing is I love him as a villain for the same reason that he got shit done in a span of like six minutes. While Cinder did as her chibi counter part would say it.

"My neferious plans"

But Adam to me seems like he was wronged and he's just fighting fire with fire, I'm looking at it less from a wrtier prespective and more as a character prespective of motives drives etc.