Board Thread:Speculation House/@comment-2.121.244.99-20160919002524/@comment-25936766-20160919223248

SpiritedDreaming wrote: ''"You think they're scared of your little ships? I've been out there and seen the things she's made, and let me tell you, they are fear." ''

.....So I'd say that he has infiltrated Salem's domain at least once. ....Spirit, let's be serious here, that quote does not really mean at all that Qrow truly infiltrated her domain. "Seen the things she's made". It could easily mean that he has gone deep into outside-Kingdom territory, and seen the abominational Grimm there, things that could make the Dragon pale in comparison. Not into her domain, just into the areas where the real monsters roam free, things humanity could only imagine behind their little walls.

Hell, considering how (logically) dangerous it can be outside the Kingdoms, the idea that Qrow actually managed to reach her domain in the middle of who-knows-where, and even get out alive and seemingly uninjured, it's beyond my suspension of disbelief, badass or not.

Especially if we followed the very hypothetical idea that if Qrow is her descendant, Salem could sense him. Then my SoD would be truly shattered.

@Alhazad: 1-From a Doylistic PoV you're right, it would've been bad writing. But Watsonianly, what does it say? She's reading from cue cards, not saying the real facts. So calling her Wise and all based on the WoRs is objectionable.

2-And what would cause "noise", exactly? (PS: Technically speaking, I think "noise" is the wrong term for such a thing...).

3-Read my response to Spirit.

4-And you did not answer the question at all. What happened to Raven? That is the question. Being sent on a mission by Ozpin is one explanation, but your original wording implies that's not your original idea.

5-We don't even know what happened to Summer. For all we know, Salem took her out because she was a threat''. ''Ruby being her daughter, and most importantly getting the SEs, she will become a threat to Salem just as big, if not bigger. If Salem was so "Wise and Chessmastery" as you often say, she would take Ruby out before she could become any real problem.

And of course, for all we know she could be alive, still trying to defeat Salem, maybe still working for Ozpin in secret. But that's a can of worms in itself.

6-You missed my point. You have every right to dismiss that hypothesis if you don't believe in it. I was just saying, your reasons for not believing in it are full of assumptions, questionable ones.