Talk:Cinder Fall/@comment-30975241-20191107022554/@comment-1.32.68.132-20191110102105

Is she really stole Fall Maiden powers from Amber? Then,why she could't open vault and obtain the relic of choice? Oz said "I made it the relic of choice more chanllenging than other relics". I believe Oz played smart here, Amber WASN'T really a Fall Maiden but she is SUMMER MAIDEN. Cinder,Leo and probably Salem must've tricked by Oz's strategy and trap. Plus, i believe perfect candiate who has Fall Maiden powers was Glynda, she most likely agreed with Oz's plan. No wonder, Oz kept Glynda close with him. Also, i also believe Glynda herself is a relic. Oh poor Cindy was fooled by Ozpin.