Talk:Amber/@comment-28171999-20160706232030/@comment-24113789-20160825095949

It'd be pretty hard to force a Maiden to do anything she didn't want to do. Obviously it can be done, but I suspect part of the reason Cinder and co. were able to do the thing to Amber was because Amber started off holding back and trying to be discreet; by the time she let loose they already had the upper hand.