Talk:Qrow Branwen/@comment-4555743-20171116223520/@comment-25936766-20171117024107

Raven is a renowned leader of a bandit group, as we saw with the bartender in this very Volume (and seriously, if you want to make reasonable theories, you should watch the V5 eps, if only to be up to date).

When Qrow first spoke with the Waitress, she said "from the woman upstair. Red eyes". Considering her reputation, it's very likely that Raven didn't show much of herself when she entered the bar, so the waitress didn't recognize her. But when Raven left, the waitress did finally recognize her as Raven Branwen, and thus she gets shocked and scared.

I mean, that's like if you spoke to someone on a restaurant, all nice and normal, and then they leave, and you realize you have just spoken to a mafia boss who kills people for a living. Most people would be shocked at the realization.

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The Maiden Powers and the Grimm are only connected if you believe the God of Darkness and the Wizard from their tale have anything to do with each other.

Even if there was indeed a Wizard, nothing says that he has anything to do with the God of Darkness specifically.

Also, Grimm were made by the God of Darkness, and Mankind was made by both the Gods of Light and Darkness. It would be perfectly logical that if the Silver Eyes affect Grimm, they could affect people too, to a smaller extent.

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Not to mention that Cinder did not get the powers legitimately. She literally had a Grimm beetle come out of her hand, drain the powers outright from Amber, and fuse with Cinder. And V4 dialogue between Cinder and Salem pretty much states that it is still there within her.

They might have affected her simply because of the way she got them ("Grimm Magic"), and not simply because she was a Maiden. And in any case, they affected her far less: An Ancient Grimm Dragon was outright petrified. Cinder was simply scarred and lost an eye.