Talk:Salem/History/@comment-107.217.95.95-20160713132313/@comment-4010415-20160713152048

Okay, now that I've actually skimmed through the whole thing... Volume 3's intro did not show Team RWBY tied up. They were sitting in a circle, but they were not tied up. That much is obvious. That part of the intro was metaphorical. The four were sitting together surrounded by darkness, and the only one who was looking up was Ruby - the only one who still had hope was Ruby.

Anyway... as for the Grimm thing... I've kinda felt like it's possible that the Grimm were there before mankind or something.

"For as long as humanity can recall walking the surface of Remnant, so do they remember this wicked force." - WoR: Grimm

"Man, born from dust, was strong, wise, and resourceful, but he was born into an unforgiving world. An inevitable darkness — creatures of destruction — the creatures of Grimm - set their sights on man and all of his creations." - Episode 1

"but he was born into an unforgiving world" implies that Remnant could've had Grimm already.