Board Thread:Episode Discussion/@comment-34633327-20180105193053/@comment-2001:8A0:D207:5D01:C99A:2ED2:D948:75E3-20180109100103

KingFubuki92 wrote:

B) Remember what Hazel said to them though? He wants to kill Ozpin over and over again. And even killing Oscar may not kill Ozpin, it would be a major setback in the efforts to beat Salem.

C) Qrow wasn't even really fighting Hazel though, Qrow was more focused on Leonardo, and keeping him from attacking Ozcar as he fought Hazel. When not fighting Leo, Qrow just kept getting Oscar out of the way, or taking the hits for him. We don't know if Qrow can hurt Hazel, as he never had the chance to.

D) You talk as if this world isn't already chaos and hell. What Hazel is doing is called being human.

E) It's the principle of the matter.

F)

2) I understand and respect your desire for Taiyang to have greater importance, but disagree. Just as I desire Vernal to remain and hold significance, and you disagree.

3) You forget, her portals allow her to port around anywhere there is a person she has formed a bond with, including Tai, Yang, Qrow.... and Vernal. B) Hazel could easily handle Oscar distraction or not. And yes, I know what Hazel said, but Oscar sympathizing with him would only lead to his own death, since he can’t expel Ozpin from his body as far as we know. Would it be good enough for Oscar to die because someone who will inevitably come back? If no, then it's irrelevant what Ozpin did.



C) Qrow managed to do nothing. If he thought he could actually beat Hazel and didn’t try, then he’s even incompetent in battle



D) If you think the world is chaos and hell now, then I assure it would be much much worse if everyone who experienced something tragic acted the way Hazel did. As for acting like that is what it means to be human… speak for yourself. You’re going to be a lot tragic to get me on board with genocide. And honestly, I don’t think I’ll ever agree with it no matter how tragic. It’s one thing to momentarily say “I hate the world and want everyone to die", another is to start contributing for that. And Hazel has been doing it for years, probably.



E) For crying out loud, if Ozpin hadn’t taken over, Oscar and Ozpin would be both dead. Again, there’s a lot to dislike about Ozpin but taking over Oscar’s body ain’t one of them. I definitely want Hazel to kill Oscar so we can waste time again on the next one until he finally convinces him to go fight for his cause. Until he finds Qrow. See all over again what we saw with Oscar. Boy, I just can’t wait for all that filler. Now, sarcasm aside, you would have probably taken over Oscar’s body too if you were in that situation – it was the smart thing to do. It was the only acceptable thing to do if you wanted to avoid certain death and avoid your allies from getting killed fighting for your cause.



<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt; font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;mso-fareast-font-family:"TimesNewRoman"; mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:PT;mso-bidi-font-style:italic">F)

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt; font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;mso-fareast-font-family:"TimesNewRoman"; mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:PT;mso-bidi-font-style:italic">2) Narrative wise it still makes no sense a man with Tai’s past wouldn’t fight alongside his daughters. It also makes no sense that the good guys, at this point, don’t have any allies who are adults and are trusting kids to fight adversaries who are much stronger. Like I said at some point before, Cinder’s faction vs Ozpin’s would/should have ended in complete annihilation of the second if it weren’t for the few surprises in the battle – Raven and Vernal, Blake and her allies, none of which were prepared by Ozpin and his group. So basically they’ll win cause dumb luck.

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt; font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;mso-fareast-font-family:"TimesNewRoman"; mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:PT;mso-bidi-font-style:italic">3) I didn’t forget that portal. I just don’t expect Cinder to be that incompetent. She knows how Raven reacted when she attacked Vernal, pretty sure if she saw Raven doing a portal to her, she would take the opportunity to prepare one of her best attacks, unless she's been defeated already at that point. And no, we can’t assume we know all the powers of Maidens based on what we’ve seen from Cinder – it’s not like we’ve seen amazing fights including her besides Pyrrha. Ozpin died fast and with Pyrrha, I think she held back a lot because she was confident she could. And why wouldn’t she? She had just killed Ozpin. Aside from that we just saw her mocking Jaune.

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt; font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;mso-fareast-font-family:"TimesNewRoman"; mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:PT;mso-bidi-font-style:italic">The bird form can have speed and be small but she’s also open and incapable of fighting. Also, we don’t know the extension of area the Maiden’s attacks can cover. Sure, it’s nice to know your adversary hidden tricks, but in no way that guarantees it won’t work on you. Even I don’t think it will either.

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt; font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;mso-fareast-font-family:"TimesNewRoman"; mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:PT;mso-bidi-font-style:italic">I’m not interested in discussing potential fighting will go though. I just don’t care for curbstomp battles – I find them boring and uninteresting.

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt; font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;mso-fareast-font-family:"TimesNewRoman"; mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:PT;mso-bidi-font-style:italic">As for the over 10 years, I've already said: <span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;mso-fareast-font-family:"TimesNewRoman"; mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:PT;mso-bidi-font-style:italic"> " <span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt;">Ok, that's true. If that's the case, Raven has the powers for 5 or more years, then I accept a curbstomp battle, although I don't find those satisfying"