Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-27819658-20161022023122/@comment-27819658-20161022192258

73.Anon.52 wrote: AlesterII wrote: SpiritedDreaming wrote: You realise that most people on this wiki either don't care about shipping enough to tear your theory to shreds over Bumblebee, or have genuine reasons to dislike Adam beyond shipping, or simply don't ship Bumblebee at all, right?

I feel like I've just been painted with the shipper's brush. You'd be surprise by how many hate on shipping alone. It's almost comically insane but more to the point. I still think a redemption arc would be good for him, its so easy to write him off as an asshole and jut kill him. Redemption takes time, effort and good writing as always I refer to Avatar the Last Airbender on redemption because they did it amazingly.

RT already failed hard in comparison... look at Zuko before he stopped being a douche... then look at Adam...

Zuko had amazingly consistent values and goals that left little difference between "bad" or "good" Zuko.

Adam on the other hand seems to hold no value in his cause and rolled over for the first human who could take out his forces... seemingly saving his people's lives at the time, but then going to the trouble of putting them in harms way again for little to no gain.

I feel you didnt pay much attention that Adam was forced into initial cooperation with Cinder. After she got one half of the power from the maiden she took out his men and told him ger in line or into the ground.

As someone stated he could have fought her and lost his men. Meanwhile aiding her would benefit him in Lien, weapons and, a chance to strike at Beacon th3 symbol of stability in Vale.

So Adam in the end had plenty to gain along with the losses he suffered in the train as a loss but clearly it worked out for him. Becsuse he gambled on Cinders plan. Sokething any commander worth bis salt has to do sometimes for victory