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Yes, but in those instances all dead bodies were confirmed before the henchman reported back to Salem. Penny was shredded on international television. Pyrrha was burnt to a cinder and became dust in the wind. Ozpin was physically killed (somehow) by Cinder.

The difference here is Tyrian has gone 'oh, I poisoned him, he's def gonna die' instead of seeing Qrow's dead body with his own eyes. That's the trope and what I meant by Heroes Always Prevail. Because Tyrian did not confirm the death but instead left the poison to do its work, he has no guarantee that it will kill him and neither do we. We can't take his statement as irrefutable truth because Qrow hasn't died yet. It's extremely likely, but the chance does exist for Qrow to pull through.

In terms of The Heroes Always Prevail trope applied to Remnant as a whole; I dn't believe it applies at all. I think it's going to be a gritty and uphill battle for our heroes, and while they will emerge triumphant at the very end it will a costly win. A Pyrrhic Victory, if you will, which ties Pyrrha into it very nicely at the end. She was the first 'Hero' to die (as Penny is a robot and can therefore be rebuilt) and the end result being a nod to her would be very poetic indeed.