Board Thread:News and Announcements/@comment-24573226-20171007211457/@comment-26397825-20171008031214

208.83.7.219 wrote: Quite frankly, this nomination for removal is solely a power grab by the other staff and I hope everyone else sees that. Grif was made aware of Phantom's decision before he posted his demonination proposal here, days ahead of this thread being created. This is not an attempt at a power grab by other staff members, and in fact if no one else agrees with Phantom it will not go ahead - Grif will still be a Bureaucrat on this wiki.

Speaking of which, I'm going to cast my vote.

Against: Grif has been absent in the past; I can clearly remember multiple times trying to contact him due to shenanigans happening on the wiki and no admins being online at the time. However, a lot of that was due to Skype issues. Since the new Discord chat launched he has being online and much more reachable, able to assist and coordinate with other staff members more effectively. His work is demanding, true, but so is work for a lot of other people - myself included. I don't believe work and real life should be a reason for denomination unless the user specifically asks for it, such as the case with Maki Kuronami stepping down yesterday.

As for not being interested in the Forums; one doesn't have to be interested in all aspects of a place to be a part of it. Lauren is an administrator for the entire wiki and yet she sticks to chat, only coming to the mainspace when no other admin is available to help us here. Grif has a similar role; he is a Bureacrat for the entire wiki, and he steps up to help out in whichever part needs help, even if he only sticks to a small section. I think his willingness to help even in areas he isn't particularly interested in needs to be mentioned and kept in mind.

Just because the wiki is well kept by the lower levels of staff doesn't exclude him from being a good contributor; it is after all the job of the lower levels of staff to keep the wiki running smoothly while he instead focuses on things like general layout, coordinating votes, and generally being the 'big scary man' at the top. Plus his willingness to help us lower level staff members where necessary instead of simply delegating and leaving it to us with no help at all is to be commended.

SpiritedDreaming&#124;EDGElord (talk) 03:12, October 8, 2017 (UTC)