Board Thread:Episode Discussion/@comment-4141313-20190119003858/@comment-4141313-20190124152514

HotSwappableGaming wrote: Alhazad2003 wrote:

HotSwappableGaming wrote:...what? I'm not arguing anything about why Cinder did what she did or didn't do. I'm saying that writing a character to lose in a stupid way is stupid. Cinder lost straight up. Adam had a perfectly functional gun on his belt. And human nature doesn't affect Adam ;) In all seriousness there's a dramatic difference between Cinder and Adam - my example for her would be equivilant to her fighting Raven, Raven using maiden power and Cinder not. It would be stupid. And to write ANY character that way is stupid. "Ruby, the Leviathan is coming and only your eyes can win!" "My eyes? What about my eyes?" *Everyone dies* Obviosuly that's a dramatic example, but I believe the point comes across. So people shouldn't make stupid mistakes in the heat of the moment?  Yang definitely did in Volume 3 and look what happened.  And Adam was definitely not in the right frame of mind, with no one in his corner to tell him to get it together.  So I have no problem with his downfall here, he lost his cool and eventually lost his life. Correct, characters shouldn't make stupid mistakes in the moment - unless it's built up as such. And a character forgetting about their weapons despite having fought with them FOR YEARS is stupid. In volume 3, what did Yang do? If you're meaning the incident with Merc then you're comparing apples to football fields. He meant when she leapt at Adam after seeing him stab Blake, leaving her wide open to losing her arm in the first place.

And characters make stupid mistakes in the moment all the time. Like Jaune when he saw Cinder, he charged at her despite how much stronger than him she was, and left himself to her mercy.

Or Roman going on a Negative fueled rant in a field of Grimm after Ruby sent Neo flying.

Or Ren losing it when he saw Knucks.

And again, characters forget weapons and such despite having them for years all the time.

Again, using DBZ as an example, how many characters forget to go Super Saiyan right off the bat when fighting. And I'm not even talking about battle junkies like Goku and Vegeta, I'm talking about characters like Trunks and Gohan too, both who have forgotten to go instant super saiyan.

Or, using RWBY as an example, how often did Sun forget about his gun-chuks despite needing ranged attacks? How often did Blake forgoe duel-wielding in favor of single style? How often did Ruby forgo sniping in favor of charging with her scythe? How often did Weiss focus on summoning in the middle of a fight rather than fight normally? How often did Yang forgo shooting from a distant in favor of cqc?

Or here's a better question. How often does Adam really even use his shotgun? In most of his fights, the only time he really used his Shotgun was as a means of launching his sword or strengthening his Iaijutsu style slashes. I can count on one hand how many times he used his shotgun as an actual shotgun.

Adam's entire fighting style is based on Iaijutsu, a fighting stance dependent on using a sword. Without a sword, he's fighting at a disadvantage. Doesn't help that a shotgun has a very small firing range, even compared to a handgun. So he's fighting without his signature style, armed with a weapon he can only use effectively if he gets in close. And with his enemies being a CQC fighter, and a woman who knows how he fights, he's at a tactical disadvantage without his semblance, and to use his semblance, he needs a sword. So he'd aim for Blake's sword.

Adam's fighting style is entirely dependent on his blade. Without a blade, he's severly handicappped.