Talk:Haven's Fate/@comment-31726788-20180121194042/@comment-34633327-20180123031833

Actually, from what I've seen, some consider Volume 5 an improvement over Volume 4 and some of the Beacon Saga. They even added this trope to the YMMV section: And by team, I believe they mean the animating staff, what with Monty's unfortunate passing (May he rest in peace), and Shane's departure from RT.
 * Contested Sequel: The Haven Arc (Volumes 4-5) compared to the Beacon Arc (Volumes 1-3). Where the Beacon Arc was action-oriented with bits and pieces of story, Haven Arc was the complete opposite, with heavily needed world-building with less emphasis on combat. The fans who dislike the Haven Arc believe that the lack of fight scenes draws out poor writing and that RWBY's main draw was always the fight scenes. Those who do like the arc enjoy it effectively concluding a number plot points from the first three volumes and that the lack of fight scenes is the team rebuilding after the loss of some of their older members.