Board Thread:Speculation House/@comment-36446807-20180803045826/@comment-26018514-20180805055944

BlizzardDragon wrote: Sentry 616 wrote: I never got the implied threat of death as the price of failing Ozpin's group... Didn't need to be said. From what was said, Spring was afraid. What would she have to fear? Salem, the threat she posed, and the real truth to the world. What happen if she couldn't face her fear? She wouldn't be able to fight or defend herself. What would happen then? The Ozluminati just hide her away and protect her?...

Maiden powers are something both Ozpin and Salem need...

With recruiting Maiden's, the choice is simple: "Work with us or die." If they can't guarentee her loyalty, she'd risk being a malfactor or at worst, a defector to the enemy....

Spring ran away. She couldn't take it. What would have Ozpin reasonably done had she been captured before Raven found her?..

its quite possible if not likely that if the maiden was deemed a lost cause, for the sake of Remant they'd be killed and replaced with a possible more suitable candidate.

This is technically the circumstance of Amber... They had to let Amber die for the sake of Remnant. The process would have killed her afterall, ripping the other half of her soul out and putting it in Pyrrha.

Realistically, becoming a Maiden is the equivalent of no longer being considered human...

1. Except it does need to be said, there is something you need to keep in mind with regards to the previous spring maiden's relationship with Ozpin: It didn't exist directly, but rather through an intermediary who was at best a coward willing to betray her to Salem.

2. Except Ozpin doesn't need them, they are keys to doors he prefers be locked. The very legend of the story says he did just that; the Wizard gave the 4 girls his power to see what they would do.

3. Again this just isn't true, so long as he can make sure they don't get in trouble and track them, he really doesn't need them to know about the door, a locked door is useless if you can't find the key, but a key without knowledge of the doors existence is almost as harmless.

4. Sent her back to Leo, who would have given her to Salem... which was the entire problem.

5. While true, I don't think he would consider her for death just because she can't defend herself, the only "lost cause's" he'd likely kill would be maiden killers with malicious intent, for good reason too, as they are likely to unleash their powers on unsuspecting victims Ozpin would be responsible for keeping in the dark.

6. Amber was dead, she couldn't live much longer with a machine keeping her in something worse than a coma, the only thing transferring her soul to Pyrrha would have done is kill her faster, and tbh the only hope she might have had to live longer than a few days would have been if Oz could find and kill Cinder... which wasn't guaranteed.

7. Again, the story of the wizard and the maidens, kind of makes that not exactly mean what you seem to think it does... Oz made 4 humans gods just to see what they would do with the power... and you are asserting he would intentionally fuck with that experiment of free will for no reason.

The maidens are a 4 part distraction, keep Salem focused on finding them and she doesn't spend all her resources finding the static doorways, or Ozpin. The problem is that Salem managed to subvert that pointless search by flipping Leo to try finding both.