Board Thread:News and Announcements/@comment-24573226-20171007211457/@comment-24573226-20171014012624

I will point out that Grif doesn't want the role but can't make himself let go. He didn't even refute it.

It's Grif's pattern of behavior to be both admitting and resistant about his desire to no longer be bureaucrat. Telling me he's miserable and wants out and hoping someone will magically take over for him winkwinkstuckouttongue, then saying that he doesn't really wanna go... probably after a bit he'll leave, since he definitely wants to eventually... And then stating me, or most recently Phantomlink, must have misunderstood what he said.

Grif has come to me more than once since January to drop-hint about wanting staff improvement. Considering the topic started with him wanting better people around so that he could leave, of course I took these conversations as reminders that he wanted to enable his departure. I figured those were when he was in "don't want to be crat anymore" mood swings. He'll likely respond with saying he never meant to do that, I'm reading into things, which is as predictable as him claiming not to have pressured that admin.

He pushes for replacements but changes his mind and claims that's never what he meant. He literally even picked a replacement (see previous mention about carrot dangling, which I am most definitely not changing my opinion on) but then found reasons not to go through with it. Mid-convo of telling me that he was giving this admin the crat position so he could leave he told me about how he actually wasn't planning on stepping down after giving it to them.

Meanwhile, he's barely even involved with the wiki. He doesn't even do the stuff he claims on the staff page. Grif's not a bad sort of person; I am not saying that. But I am saying that this is what he's put me through about the wiki and his status as bureaucrat for the wiki. It's not a healthy situation to say he wants out, wants to step down and then push back when the discussion returns or the opportunity creates itself.

1. Grif's admission he wants someone else instead of him as a crat. Skype emotes move, btw. 2. Grif's admission that he's wanted to step down for awhile. 3. Grif claiming the wiki itself was his idea first. 4. Another reference to not wanting to be crat with "ensuring it every day", which, of course, he doesn't do because he has barely been around all this time. This was even pointed out two years ago by someone. I can find the link later.

Also, when I spoke about derailing/backtracking consensus, I meant conversations that he participates in, not the ones that he sees after the fact. As I said about the bureaucrat nom, we all discussed what role we wanted a crat to play in the wiki and there wasn't much overlap until we all pretty much, Grif included, mentioned at some point 2 was a good number to work with for now. As soon as I pointed out that we'd agreed on one thing at least, Grif started talking about not committing ourselves to a number. The encouragement to open up voting for a new crat was slated to be the Saturday we chose, to make it after the content mod and before the new volume. A day or two before Saturday came around, Grif made a speech and tried to stop it from happening, and I had to protest that we had agreed for more than a week that our discussion was toward this goal date. These are just two most recent examples.

I'm out of time and need to leave for work. These are just samples of what I personally have been through with Grif. And I repeat, it's not healthy for any of us.