Talk:A Perfect Storm/@comment-5717877-20171207230133/@comment-25936766-20171207230824

Cinder.

Cinder beated Amber with only Merc and Em helping her, and killed Ozpin literally minutes after she got the full powers. Then there's all the training she got killing Grimm hordes, from Beowulves to Beringels and up.

The hell Vernal has done? Vernal's been grinding on harmless villagers who can't do shit against any Grimm worth something.