Talk:Cinder Fall/@comment-198.144.114.148-20130827125402/@comment-10390252-20130827131834

I still say Ozpin's estranged daughter. My idea is that there was some sort of rivalry between her and Glynda whilst they were at Beacon together. She blamed Glynda for 'stealing' her father from her and she set off to learn the ways of the Dark so she could match Glynda's greater raw strength and one day make them both pay.

My ideal story line would be for her to try to corrupt Ozpin's new prize student - Ruby - only for the girl's pure innocence and her own horror at realising what she has become (effectively a pawn of the Grimm) to turn her back to the Light instead. She still gets her wish in a different way though because she ends up teaching Ruby the arts of weaponless Dust magic and more about aura manipulation that any teacher at Beacon could know.

(BTW - This story idea also includes Adam teaching Ruby more about the arts of war with a weapon.)

At the end, she falls in the final battle, a heroine, giving our heroes time to set up for their final winning move.