Talk:Cinder Fall/@comment-35585801-20180514171634/@comment-35585801-20180515020113

@ChishioKunRin @

Like I said agree to disagree. I think it's helpful to acknowledge that the series has issues, it's definitely not the best animated series out there. To me RWBY suffers from the villain problem which Salem is a huge part of, and I think we are on the same side in regard that we all want the series to grow and become better in the future and for that to happen we have to acknowledge RWBY isn't perfect and Salem has huge issues.

Though if you are satisfied with what they have put out so far or if female Snoke is your ideal bid bad then hey I won't comment further because that's your taste and everyone has a right to what they like.

@73.anon.52

Sigh. I'm not even going to entertain that. You should read what I'm actually arguing for. Or can keep doing this but you'll be arguing against yourself or at best a strawman version of what I've been saying. Ciaoz

@SomeoneYouUsedToKnow

1) Glad to deal with reasonable people :) I'll concede that I was exaggerating, though I feel the point stands that if you were in Miles & Kerry's position as a writer with complete control over all events, it's not a coincidence that they chose to fridge Cinder. They wanted this specific event to happen, if they truly wanted her dead they could have done it in less ambiguous ways.

2) Agreed that Cinder wasn't any good. Though I liked her from Volume 1-3 because she had an awesome design and powerset, she has ALOT of narrative issues that Volume 5 just made worse and I really wish they could have killed her off properly in Volume 5.

3) Cool.