Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-28776596-20161122022119/@comment-27082610-20161208122453

189.217.47.59 wrote:

1) You said everything I wrote about Raven attacking Pyrrha makes no sense which is the same as saying my entire reasoning was off from the start. Considering it's based on speculation and my knowledge of behind scenes, you might as well be calling me an idiot.

2) Anyway, suicide mission was just a manner of speaking. I figured Ozpin doesn't simply holds the maiden in safe houses and he actually uses them when it's necessary. Just like he had to use Pyrrha to fight Cinder, who's to say he hasn't encountered other situations where maidens were needed?

3) And what's this about Raven not caring about Ozpin vs Salem? Didn't you watch Family? Raven told Qrow that she knew Ozpin would fail which means she knew enough to assume (under her reasoning) that he'd fail to stop Salem. Not to mention she knew where Yang was when she needed help. She also apparently knows about the 'thing' which might as well be the relic at Beacon. Raven knows too much about Ozpin, Beacon and the maidens to say she has absolutely no concern of what Ozpin was planning. 1) Sweet fucking Jesus, how do you even go outside with skin that thin?

2) And who's to say he has? Considering how deliberately and unnecessarliy vague they were being before Pyrrha got brought to the Vault, it's entirely possible that they just keep an eye on the Maidens. After all, word of some group of demigodesses running around setting armies of Grimm on fire or freezing them or wiping them out with gale-force winds would travel pretty damn fast.

3) Quote directly from Family's transcripts:

Raven: I told you Beacon would fall and it did. I told you Ozpin would fail and he has. Now you tell me. Does. Salem. Have it?

Qrow: I thought you weren’t interested in all of that.

Raven: I just want to know what we are up against.

Qrow: And which “we” are you referring to?

Given the context, it's reasonable to assume that Qrow and Raven were both offered places among the Ozluminati. Raven turned it down because she doesn't care about the fight between Oz and Salem beyond how it can affect the tribe. That's why she asked if Salme had the Relic, so she could prepare for whatever Salem could do with it. And she saved Yang because "everyone gets one". After that she plainly stopped giving a shit.