Talk:Bike Race/@comment-68.194.1.35-20160824033335/@comment-25936766-20160828134725

@Anon: If you want to be technical, Lie Ren isn't a true chinese name. The Ren part is japanese.

And the problem with that reasoning is what I pointed out earlier: We could indeed assume that even though China does not exist in Remnant, his name still follows asian naming order. But then there's Yang, whose given name isn't Xiao Long, same with Taiyang. There's May, whose first name isn't Zedong. Yatsuhashi's last name is Daichi. Ditto with Bolin Hori and Nadir Shiko.

Overall, even if you tried to use that reasoning, there's still the fact that literally every other character with chinese or japanese names in the show do not follow the asian naming order.

@Chish/Mini: He said "he took the last name". In the sense of "He took Nora's last name?". It doesn't mean at all that his last name is Lie, he's simply pointing out how Miles ended up adding Nora's last name to Ren. Which is about as bad and awkward as saying "Rose Schnee".

Read the commentaries you yourself link, by the way: "Miles: And here we go, Ren Valkyrie and Lie, wait... (Everyone laughs) Jesus Christ!"

See? He was going to say "Nora Valkyrie and Lie Ren", he just ended up changing Nora's name with Ren's most commonly used half of his name. And he said Ren instead of Lie because, like I pointed out: Everyone calls him Ren instead of Lie, first part of his name that everyone thinks of is Ren because it's the one that is commonly used, and Miles was in a sleep-deprived state on top of it.

So total, that name confusion Sleepy Miles had is not proof of Ren's first name being Ren and not Lie. And if they said that his last name really is Lie, then it's certainly not in that specific commentary.

Saying "Ren is the only, only person to follow that naming order just because", it's not really a strong argument, and it only proves the original anon's point: Inconsistency.

"We'll probably meet other people and families in Remnant that follow the same naming order"? Well, we've seen so far at least 6 different characters with asian names that don't follow that naming order.