Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-25266931-20170206193307/@comment-25266931-20170211022418

SomeoneYouUsedToKnow wrote: The ones who really have no excuse are the Ozluminati. Oz should've known much better, yet his MO was Inaction, doing nothing. Qrow didn't do anything and Glynda was nothing but a "Yes" Woman to Ozpin. Ironwood has big trust issues, a "my Dick is bigger than yours" complex, and while he was the only one who actually did anything, he only gave Cinder and co. free weapons to wreck Vale with, without knowing.

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4-2 questions: 1-Why 15, specifically? 2-What would that accomplish? The previous Ozluminati included Qrow, Glynda, Ironwood, Ozpin, and the headmasters of the other academies, + whatever people said headmasters let in on the secret.

At the very very least, that was 6, 1 of which esentially ruled the Kingdom of Atlas (2 seats in the Council + Atlesian Military + Atlas Academy). And they failed from sheer incompetency (+ at least 1 traitor).

Having more people doesn't mean things will go better for them.

6-That's a horribly blind assumption. Blake, maybe, but only regarding the White Fang. Regarding Salem, neither Blake nor Weiss even know she exists, and Ren hasn't shown to be perceptive enough of the enemy to be able to state that.

...That said, that's when it comes to the general enemy's plans. When it comes to a specific enemy's plans, they could be more perceptive. Blake is most likely more perceptive of the WF's actions, and someone in RNJR could probably tell Lionheart isn't quite what he seems (not Ruby though, she's not aware-enough).

8-There are some speculative theories that Watts is part of the Atlesian Military, and thus he knows about the network, and where it's holes are, hence why the virus could work so easily without being detected.

...And I hope it's true, because without that, the only explanation is that the Cybersecurity of the world's biggest army (whose main weapons are machines) is nothing better than AVG.

I hope Oz learned from Beacon and will never be that passive again. I hope Ironwood hasn't gone completely off the deep end with power and paranoia, but I bet he has. I hope Qrow lives at least till Vol8 and helps to fight Cinder if she resurfaces. And I'm not going to bring up Glynda because while you were gone people beat the fact that she's pointless and useless over my head over and over. So I don't want to bring up that dead horse again.

As for why 15 members. So they have a militia that can spread out in teams over the whole world searching and researching Salem's faction's activity.

I was just saying of all the characters, Blake, Weiss and Ren seem the best and understand complex info when told to them. Everyone else is like "duh I don't get it, this is crazy, what's going on again? Did I mention 'duh'?"

I still think Watts is no fighter. Even more so from the scenes of the end of this season. I think he's all tech like Salem is all magic. I think he worms his way into nations and fucks shit up with his viruses and hacking. His color scheme matches the soldier that saved them from the ruined town they fought in. If he's the world's best hack, fine. But if they say a random Seer Grimm or Tyrian made that virus that butt-fucked Atlas' tech and made Cinder's terrorist boardcast UNTRACEABLE then I'm calling all the bullshit imaginable.

Can we at least agree that if the characters are still 80% in the dark about Salem and her plans and Oz still won't tell them is full detail by Season 8 that it's bad writing choice? Can we at least agree that if everytime Ruby fights Cinder the only way she wins is with Silver Eye power is bad writing choices? Can we? Can everyone agree on that?