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Bottom line for me is that Salem has to win in Volume 8. The protagonists have gone far too long without a solid loss. I mean, let's take Cinder for example. Since Volume 3, she's lost literally every fight she's been involved in. Hell, I would argue she lost in Volume 3, because I categorize obtaining the maiden powers at the cost of giving your enemy the ability to destroy you effortlessly as a loss.

But regardless, Volumes 4-7 have been nothing but victory for the heroes. It's time now for them to lose, and to lose badly. In short, I want V8 to make V3 look like sunshine and butterflies. V8 has to stand as RWBY's 'Infinity War', and what follows in the final volumes must stand as its 'Endgame'. That's what this show has to do to conclude successfully.