Talk:Cinder Fall/@comment-33222463-20180203202740/@comment-4010415-20180205234440

The question is: What did Ozpin mean when he said the Relic of Choice is more hidden than the other Relics? Did he mean the Relic itself is more hidden, or did he mean the door that leads to the pocket dimension the Relic is in is more hidden?

If the door itself is more hidden and Cinder was unable to find it, then yes, Salem still needs the Fall Maiden.

If the Relic itself is more hidden and is not actually inside the pocket dimension housed in the vault, then it's possible Salem may not need the Fall Maiden after all.