Board Thread:Episode Discussion/@comment-34633327-20180105193053/@comment-5430952-20180108075933

KingFubuki92 wrote: Something Interesting about Hazel's motivations I found on Tv Tropes. While checking the Nightmare Fuel Tab, I found this little entry here:  Plus, Ozpin isn't looking so good anymore. Disregarding the Hazel situation, I'm talking about him overriding Oscar. While yes, it was the smart thing to do to fight Hazel, it's worrisome because remember something important about Oz? Even in the most dire of situations, he expressed that choice was priorty. Even when they needed to take Amber's powers, he refused to start until Pyrrha said he could, despite the severity of the situation. Yet here, where the situation is arguably less servere, he forgoes choice altogether, because even though Oscar is suppossed to fight his own battles, Ozpin took over by force. Even before, Ozpin implied Oscar had to be the one to give control, and that Ozpin couldn't take over himself. Yet here..... There's a reason the Demonic Possession Trope is on the Episode Recap Page:
 * Hazel's situation is worse when you realise he's clearly Yang's counterpart on WTCH. Older sibling, fist-based fighting style, generally affable outside of a fight but hiding a lot of anger and hurt, and have lost people because of Ozpin (in Hazel's case it's his sister dying, and in Yang's case it's a lot of people leaving her alone as a direct or indirect result of Ozpin's machinations). It's so easy to imagine Yang in Hazel's place, stricken by grief and screaming at Ozpin because his habit of using people for his own ends got Ruby killed. And would you blame her?


 * Demonic Possession: Oscar's situation with Ozpin is beginning to look even more like this, given that unlike his previous assurance that Oscar has to give Ozpin permission to control his body temporarily, Ozpin forces himself into the driver's seat to fight Hazel.
 * O.O.C. Is Serious Business: Ozpin normally takes permission very seriously, to the point where he had to have verbal consent from Pyrrha to perform the Maiden transference even though she'd already climbed in and Cinder could be there any moment, but when Oscar tries to fight Hazel himself Ozpin forcibly takes over, knocking Oscar unconscious for good measure.

 Either Hazel is so much more a threat than securing the Fall Maiden Power's were, for whatever reason, or Ozpin throws choice out the window if the choice could cause his death again. Plus, what Hazel said, that Oscar had "Evil" inside him. While this is easily just his anger talking, considering so far Ozpin has invaded Oscar's body, said their beings will merge with no indication who will be the dominant personality, and that he can take control as he pleases..... That sounds more like pure possession. I understand that sacrifices have to be made for the greater good, but still..... Just what are you really Ozpin? A servant of the Gods, or a Noble Demon, good in nature, but a demon nonetheless.

I question how much Ozpin actually "changes" with each reincarnation. He talks about all the mistakes he's made, but I wonder if he's actually learned from them. If not, then he's going to repeat them over and over again. He knew what happened with Team STRQ because of the Maiden's powers (yet another secret he's kept from his "most trusted" lieutenants), yet he was going to repeat it with Team JNPR, and possibly Team RWBY later on. I'm guessing he "nudged" Qrow and Tai into training Yang early in being a Huntress, so when the time was right he'd send her to find Raven, she'd take her down and become the new Spring Maiden, who'd be fully back under his thumb once again. And it would risk another Team STRQ meltdown, yet he'd do it anyway because be believes only he can protect the Maidens, his "children." As the old saying goes, those who fail to learn from their mistakes are doomed to repeat them. So I'd deem him as a Well-Intentioned Extremist with an air of incompetence with everything he's fouled up.