Talk:Breach/@comment-174.7.41.246-20141031041851

I've been thinking of this for a while now but Cinder calling this defeat a "success" nails it for me. She wants a war, not for the sake of a victory but for the conflict itself. She's allied with the grimm and she's trying to amp-up the negative emotions that feed them. That's why she used a racist like Torchwick to recruit the White Fang.