Board Thread:Episode Discussion/@comment-4141313-20181215021300/@comment-4141313-20181218053317

The Another One wrote: I'm getting real tired of having to explain this.

The trust thing is also Oz's own fault, as they wouldn't distrust him if he didn't give them a reason to distrust him. Constantly keeping secrets out of fear they'd betray him is what caused them to betray him. It's a cycle that feeds into itself. Had he been more open about it but tried to sound more optimistic about it, such as saying he's needs their help to defend the things they care about and protect their home, rather than just think they're incapable of handling it, it shows he has little faith in them to accept the truth. His trust issues are partially his own fault.

And no, they aren't antagonizing either of them. RWBY+Q reacted angrily after learning, but the only one to attack him was Qrow, and he was and still is an emotionally unstable wreck, making it understandable why he'd do it. After Oz left, they didn't go after Oscar for what he did, in fact they still stuck with him. Even when JN_R found out, only Jaune lashed out, only because his paranoia made him think it wasn't really Oscar, but just Oz pretending to be Oscar, and even then, he looked remorseful for what he did when he saw Oscar was terrified, and definitely looked like he realized his fuck ups after learning Oscar ran off.

And about the not defending Oscar thing, that is entirely wrong. Weiss tried to get in Jaune's way at first, Yang yelled at him too, and Blake, Nora, and Ren were understandably unnerved by Jaune's actions. Had Ruby not stopped him, they probably would have stepped in. As for the console part.... None of them really know Oscar. They only knew him as Ozpin's host, and know little about him, just like we, the viewers do. They have too little of a bond with him. They have some bond, but not as big a bond with Jaune. They've known Jaune for over a year, RN_R knows he's an emotional wreck, and they'd understandably be worried about him. Yeah, they could have asked Oscar if he was okay, but who would you be more concerned with at the moment? The friend you've known already and watched break down, or the farmer kid you met about a month ago and barely know? And you are making heavy assumptions on Ruby and the other's mindsets, when you don't even need too. Ren said it himself, they need time to think and process this. Remember, it's only been three days since RWBY+QO learned about Ozma, and they had to deal with Brunswick on top of that and deal with a dead end. It's doubtful they'd process everything in that time.

As for the giving up, I refer you to my statement above.

"It gets even worse with the number of people who are calling the heroes cowards for feeling despair at the idea that Salem is unkillable, and that they have no right to give up since the job of signing up, being a huntsman, had no foreseeable end to it and they wouldn't have given up then.

''Except they fail to realize with the Grimm they can at least cull them and make them manageable, but with Salem, a woman who assumedly can't be stopped and can cause catastrophes such as the fall of Beacon, they would not be able to manage her. So of course they'd be depressed.''

It's almost like they get angry at the characters for having actually realistic responses."

Cause seriously, I would love to hear how many people here would realistically want to keep fighting after learning their life purpose is all but meaningless or impossible. And don't give me any optimistic bluster, I'm talking about realistically, emotions running high, fear and panic filling your system. More people would be like WBY+JNR+QO than they'd be like Ruby and Maria.