Board Thread:Episode Discussion/@comment-34633327-20180105193053/@comment-2001:8A0:D212:101:3160:38A2:D9F6:43B6-20180107001447

MaxusFox23 wrote: I dunno if I was the only one who noticed, but... don't you think Raven, even after the real Spring Maiden reveal and all the reasons she might've had to stay away from everyone, is still a big ass hypocrite?

She sees Ozpin as this huge hypocrite that'll sacrifice  everyone he seems fit to fight against Salem, when she did exactly the same thing with Vernal: Sacrifice her for a "greater good".

Raven just cannot see (or maybe she does but won't admit out loud) the fact that sacrificing people for the survival of the Branwen Tribe isn't any better that what she claims Ozpin is doing. Sure, Vernal was ready for it, but in Blake's words: "That doesn't make it right".

What chances of survival does a small group of bandits have against Salem once the heroes fail, even with being a Maiden herself?

Answer: None and she knows it. We've never seen Raven complain about Ozpin's being willing to sacrifice others for his cause, if I remember correctly. She said several times it was a lost cause, but if what I said before is correct, she doesn't believe that, she just doesn't think Ozpin's a good strategist or thinks that in order to beat Salem, she can't know all her enemies. If that's the case, no, it's really not just for the tribe she's doing it.

Considering Raven's reaction to Vernal dying, I don't think she wanted things to go that way. She expected it for Vernal to put her hand on the vault, not work, and then they both would fight Cinder.

Also what is not right? People deciding to fight in spite of it leading to some casualties? Because that's exactly what Raven and Vernal did. They fooled the villains because they also knew they could be betrayed by them and if they hadn't, Cinder would now have the power of 2 maidens, which might still happen, but not withouta fight