Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-24098614-20180508224452/@comment-27082610-20181205130051

Super saiyan swagger wrote: Arkantos95 wrote:

Super saiyan swagger wrote: did raven kill people. yes

did she break the law. yes

did she kidnap weiss to try to ransom her back to her father. yes

therefore, raven is a villain, not that complex. Saiyan, can you give me the contact info of every English teacher you've ever had so that I can tell them they all failed you on a very basic level? What did they fail to teach me ? Random House Unabridged Dictionary defines villain as "a cruelly malicious person who is involved in or devoted to wickedness or crime; scoundrel; or a character in a play, novel, or the like, who constitutes an important evil agency in the plot".

Since Raven's sole antagonistic actions were:

1) Making arrangements where her brother would be in danger that she probably honestly thought he could handle.

2) Opening the portal for Cinder and Co.

And keep in mind, both of these actions were taken in order to remove Cinder from play. So she really doesn't qualify as a villain from a literary perspective. If you'd paid attention in English, you'd know this, and how to properly capitalize letters like a functioning English speaker.