Board Thread:Speculation House/@comment-14909251-20170522044827/@comment-26018514-20170529035656

ChishioKunrin wrote: I view it like this:

Before the Great War

There was a lot of severe and widespread discrimination in the olden days, which we've been told by WoR: Faunus, what with Faunus being avoided, driven out of towns, and hunted down and murdered. WoR: Faunus says that, at one point, there was an incident where the only reason a town survived a Grimm attack was due to Humans and Faunus working together (interestingly, it happened on Sanus), but then after that, Humans used Faunus' differences to exploit them and still alienated them.

Great War & Faunus War

The Faunus War happened either before or after the Great War.

If it was before the Great War: That makes being gifted Menagerie in the Vytal Treaty a little insulting. "Remember that tiny continent we tried to force you all to move to? Have it as a gift. ;)"

If it was after the Great War: That means Faunus being granted equal rights didn't stop Humans from trying to force their entire population into Menagerie.

The White Fang

Blake said the White Fang was founded "in the ashes of war" as a "symbol of peace and unity between Humans and Faunus", though she doesn't state which war. I'm tempted to say that the Faunus War happened decades after the Great War, and the White Fang was founded after the Faunus War ended. Oobleck says it may feel like ancient history to the students but it's a fairly recent event, so if it happened after the Great War, it had to have come to an end decades before the students were born. Come to think of it, why do we assume Ghira founded the White Fang? It's only ever been said that he was the previous leader before Sienna took charge.

At some point after the WF was founded, whether it was months or years, the WF decided they felt that there was still an unnecessary amount of discrimination going on. It wasn't as severe as it used to be, not by a longshot, but it was still enough that they felt it necessary to carry out peaceful protests and boycotts.

When the WF switched leaders, there were shops that were refusing to serve Faunus. That's a pretty good indication, in my mind, that there was still some discrimination going on.

WF began carrying out their violent methods, and due to fear of WF backlash, the discrimination died down even more. Again, Faunus war was long after... if you'll recall:

Blake: (off-screen) "Of course, despite being promised equality, the Faunus were subjected to discrimination and hate. Humanity still thought of us as lesser beings. And so, the White Fang rose up as the voice of our people. And I was there." Silhouettes of Faunus protestors are revealed, and emerging from the shadows is a young girl with dark hair and cat ears. Blake: (off-screen) "I was at the front of every rally. I took part in every boycott. I actually thought we were making a difference. But I was just a youthful optimist." Cutting from the child version of Blake, the blue flag of a white wolf with sad eyes and a circle behind its head is lowered, and raised in its stead is a red monster with three bloody scratches and teeth bared at the world. Blake: (off-screen) "Then, five years ago, our leader stepped down, and a new one took his place. A new leader, with a new way of thinking." Blake was there at the start of the White Fang's protest days at the least, I'd say this even indicates she was there at its creation