Board Thread:Speculation House/@comment-35941743-20190304195312/@comment-26018514-20190315182332

The Devil&#039;s Advocate WP wrote: 73.Anon.52 wrote: While Ruby may be pure hearted, we've already seen how Cinder both acquires power and reacts to pain...

To put it lightly, it's doubtful Cinder can survive a heal-face turn with grimm implants...

So the only way she lives... I think it is important to consider the broader theme involved. A big part of this story is people being divided against each other and having to come together in spite of their differences. So, I don't think a situation where all the villains die is really selling that point. Having it just be Emerald, Hazel, and Mercury wouldn't be very helpful either. The first two are exactly the ones we could all recognize as not really being "evil" as much as deeply misguided and the third is one who might just go along with it because he is close to one of them. I don't think Tyrian would be very believable and Watts is perhaps even less believable and certainly less significant. Obviously, Salem has to die no matter what happens. That leaves Cinder. I think you're really overselling yourself on just how "friendship is magic" the show is...

If RT follows through on the "simple soul" trope, we already know Salem will die through co-operation, such a death actually makes Tyrian's survival possible and more probable than Cinder's as he worships Salem as a goddess, Cinder doesn't.

Yes Tyrian's a crazy psychopath, but Cinder's a loose-canon with Maiden powers, this leave's the former a threat to villages while the latter is a threat to Cities.

Watts seems to just want to do research he wants ethics be damned, but still isn't as big a threat as Cinder would be to humanity, and you literally named almost all the other villains who could survive and be left alive at the end, so why would Cinder need to live?

Keep in mind that in even in one of the biggest "villains to friends" series, Dragonball Z, there was still only like 5 villains once they got to the long game who lived through it... and may of those died at least once(Vegeta, Buu, Piccolo), and they were only able to leave them alive because while the threats were stronger, so was the Hero.

RWBY has no chance of entirely becoming more powerful than Cinder so long as she has maiden powers, Yang will likely inherit Raven's, but otherwise there are only 2 left to go around, and if they get them then the other country's would need her dead to be safe from her, so again, she would need a 100% heel-face turn... and that seems impossible even for Shonen standards, especially since such a perspective would likely result in her implants trying to kill her.