Talk:Adam Taurus/@comment-5136196-20160817022300/@comment-5430952-20160825015615

@SYUTK

1. It froze the Dragon, yes, but there's no guarantee it froze Cinder, not with how powerful she is now. Considering what she displayed in the last episode, incapacitating her so easily would seem like a serious buttpull.

2. Never played Mass Effect, but I'm more leaning towards it's a form of temporal stasis, only without immunity to damage. All Qrow would need to do is either cut off her head or cut out her heart, and she would be done for. Though that would be too easy as well. As for the Dragon, you'd need something like the Atlas armada to take it out, or possibly some high-powered missiles launchers. Though with the CCT down and Atlas looking like crap at the moment, that plan is clearly out of the question, for now.

3. But you're missing my point, Cinder could pull a Vader on the WF and string them along even further, you really think she's gonna keep her word? And if Adam resists she can demonstrate her newfound prowess to "tame" him yet again.

@MiniDaggers

Ditto, if she's not leading the villains in Haven, then who is? Another reason I doubt she was frozen, Emerald and Mercury would be on their own, who'd act as Salem's Queen at that juncture?

And yes, not telling Ruby about Cinder would be a major snafu, lack of communication and trust is what caused the downfall of Beacon. And if they don't learn from this tragedy, then they're doomed to repeat it. Fools.