Board Thread:Episode Discussion/@comment-148.253.184.233-20200128130653/@comment-43756665-20200213175923

ChishioKunrin wrote: Quick question, do we know if Gretchen was killed specifically by Grimm? Everyone's just assuming that she was, but we don't know that. We don't know if Ozpin sent Gretchen on a mission that didn't involve Grimm that Hazel considered to have been a mission she wasn't ready for. Perhaps Hazel feels like Ozpin manipulated Gretchen and does the same to all of his students - all of the children who look to him for direction. It's not really relevant at the end of the day. Even if Gretchen wasn't killed by a Grimm (which is highly unlikely, because there aren't a whole lot of hazards at Beacon that aren't Grimm-related), she had still dedicated her life to fighting Grimm and, by extension, Salem. Joining Salem is a besmirchment of her memory, and Hazel should know that.

It would be like if a loved one were killed in an accident in a WWII training camp, while preparing to fight the Nazis. And out of rage, you join the Nazis to avenge their death. It's insanely stupid.