Talk:Roman Torchwick/@comment-27843459-20160814215846/@comment-27843459-20160815191716

@Gastropod

I had thought "Deceased (Presumably)" was perfectly neutral, but now I see the issue with the wording. "Likely Deceased" would be a better way of putting it. The main probelm I have with "Eaten by Grimm" is that it's too specific for the Status category. I feel that Status should only be listed as one of the following:

"Active" (alive and able to work/fight/travel)

"Inactive" (alive without the ability to work/fight/travel)

"Unknown" (MIA)

"Deceased" (shown to be dead or proclaimed dead by other characters in the show (Summer Rose, for exapmple))

"Likely Deceased" (heavily inferred to be dead based on observed events)

"Eaten by Grimm" is absolutely certian, but it still communicates the vibe of "Well, he COULD still come back, right? He just has to!" I feel that "Eaten by Grimm" only exists for the people who deny Roman's death on all possible fronts, even as a likelyhood (and therefore is not neutral).

@Hazel

You make a good point, Hazel. It IS professional to prevent needless argument among the editors. Allow me to clarify, once again, that I am not just trying to push for what I think is right. I believe that "Likely Deceased" is both the most fitting, unbiased, and ultimately logical listing for the Status of Roman Torchwick, and therefore is the best comprimise. I disagree with "Eaten by Grimm" just as much as "Unknown", but I'm not going to fuss over the matter if this never changes.

I can see why "Presumably" and "Likely", despite being proper categorical wording, could be taken as "Definitely". It seems to me that most people go a bit too far with assumptions, thinking 90% is the same thing as 100%. In my mind, 99% still means 1% is possible, and so I interpret statements like "assumed to be" and "generally inferred" as, of corse, indicators for the most likely outcome - probable, but still not 100%.

Trying to make my unbiased intentions clear is like trying to balance a long metal pole on my chin. I say things may need to go in this direction, and people take it as "I want it to go ALL THE WAY THAT WAY."