Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-24032889-20180128082951/@comment-26018514-20180509232819

The Devil&#039;s Advocate WP wrote:

Why quote the last sentence rather than the last two or the whole paragraph? You didn't argue that it wouldn't allow them to extend the Atlas arc.

2. Again, such a war would not involve all 3 other nations, thus not a "world" war.

Why wouldn't it?... Vale and Mistral aren't completely without fighting capability.... A lot of other players are involved in this as well. For one, there is no telling whether Adam might still be able to gather loyalists and Menagerie is certainly in a position to be a force now.

3. He's disgraced... Ironwood wouldn't exactly bother with confiding in him.

Why wouldn't he? Say the guy was responsible for giving Ironwood his robotic attachments, do you think he would cut him out? Also, "disgraced" can mean anything and be a result of anything. There is no reason to presume it is something that would make it absolutely intolerable for Ironwood and him to still be friendly.

1. No, I was arguing it could not extend the arc because it is far too early for a great war arc during the Atlas arc... and I try not to quote entire paragraphs, especially not in such close proximity to the post quoted, people can scroll up if they need to.

2. Mistral is not... But Vale very much is, I'm not sure you understand the true implications of an eternal war zone of the sort that now exists in their territories perimeter... and they used to have just 2 scrubs defending wide swaths of their border, they would need a damn good reason to do any sort of offensive... and they were nearly emptied of dust before Atlas closed the main exporter of dust, this is why pilot boi was making a killing on that trip with Weiss.

Now Mistral has other reasons: their criminal underground is organized while their government is divided amongst the northern colonies(which rely on Atlas) and their southern ones which just lost pretty much all of their free agents(which are the most expendable for scouting/espionage) and all of these factions now have an up-for-grabs Haven to fight for.

Adam will be unable to use the WF Organization assets in Menagerie or Mistral, and even in Vale he'll be hard pressed to convince the WF he was fighting for WF ideals(Faunus rights) relatively soon, he can get hard-liners who just want to kill humans but in these 3 regions he won't be able to use idealists under the banner, Blake and the Belladonna's also have Sienna Khan's death to use against him.

Menagerie is not really a "force" yet, they were a hastily assembled mob with minimal training, and are bound to return home en masse shortly... Ghira has a day job.

3. Because we are talking about political discussions... it'd be like asking your watch repairman to plan your one way trip around the world after you found out he was a Flat Earther... No matter how good at his job he is the job you have isn't in his wheelhouse in the first place and he doesn't think it can be done that way.