Talk:Cinder Fall/@comment-1446360-20180911020951/@comment-5430952-20180911165200

@Gemmaniac

I'm certain he does have a brain, he just has very... unique views when it comes to the antagonists of the story. Unfortunately he seems to believe there's something in them that hasn't been shown, and that the antagonists themselves don't believe they have. Roman died a villain, and I'm certain msot of the others will as well. And even though Lionheart was ashamed by his actions, he was too far mentally gone to try and redeem himself. The others have shown no such shame in their actions, so redemption is definitely a longshot.

@thunder

You seem to be forgetting something, that scene happened before we learned Cinder had a Grimm arm. And considering how she acts more affectionately towards Grimm than towards humans, I'd say she was pitying that Beowolf being ripped apart by Tyrian, it had nothing to do with introspection. I daresay she's never had an introspective moment in years, since she still firmly believes she's right. So she won't become an anti-hero, more like an even darker villain, if she survived Haven anyway.