Talk:Raven Branwen/@comment-71.88.115.224-20141101234211/@comment-4010415-20141102111137

Yang said Summer went on a mission and never came back, which is a dramatic way of saying SHE DIED on the mission. There's a gravestone and everything. Sure, there is a small possibility that she is still alive, but no, Summer is not Cinder.

1. Ruby and, especially, Yang would have recognized Cinder if she was Summer. She has been walking around Beacon in broad daylight.

2. The RWBY crew has said Cinder isn't much older than the Beacon students. Students graduate at age 21, so Cinder is probably in her early to mid 20s, making her far too young to have a 15-year-old daughter.

Also, just for fun, here's a wacky random unbased crack theory: "Oh noes, Cinder had sex with Adam, and although she's not a mother now, she will be!" XD