Board Thread:Episode Discussion/@comment-25876992-20180302045729/@comment-26018514-20180303012419

ChishioKunrin wrote: Desireepurnellsandi wrote: Masma93 wrote: Yes, Salem ordered to reinforce the numbers of grimm creatures at Beacon because Cinder either didn't find the door or couldn't open it, maybe you need a special key (possibly Ozpin's cane) or have to pass a special test to open the door or to reveal it. Or a Maiden, specifically Fall. With Cinder gone (possibly not dead), they have no way of opening the vault. But Cinder was the Fall Maiden when Salem made the order to reinforce the number of Grimm at Beacon and when Cinder herself commented on Haven's vault being fancier than Beacon's. Cinder entered Beacon's vault but did not get the Relic of Choice, meaning that she was right where she needed to be to get the Relic of Choice but was not able to, even though she had the full Fall Maiden powers at the time. She found "a" vault... we can't be sure that she found the right one, nor can we really be sure that she actually found the same "inner" vault of the variety Knowledge was in... she said the maiden had to touch the door to open it, and that only the maiden could enter it(the latter was not true as Yang is not a maiden and she walked in and out just fine) thus we can guess she may not have opened a similar "demon door" and only assumed an already open room she saw was opened by Fall and had formerly held the relic.