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Angren Túrë wrote:

WC-83 wrote:

Angren Túrë wrote:

WC-83 wrote:

WC-83 wrote: ah now I remember what to right. Imagine an episode revealing the death of Summer Rose, flashing back to their time at Beacon

The Rise and Fall of Rose

Ruby and the team are training in the courtyard as Ozpin watches. Ozpin seems more depressed than usual. Glynda arrives and said "there was nothing you can do", Ozpin replying "she deserved more, both of them, now this is all they can hope for". After Glynda leaves, Ozpin looks in a closet (but not showing the contents). It flashes back to when Ozpin, Summer Rose, Glynda Goodwitch, and even Crimson were on the same team (lead by Ozpin), and details their lives in Beacon (the speech Ozpin gave an exact copy of the one the older headmaster gave). They are sent on a mission to stop a report of Grim activity in the woods. Along the way, Crimson starts seeing the Grim and is corrupted by it. On a cliff near the woods, Crimson goes mad and knocks out Glynda and moves for Ozpin and Summer, Ozpin displaying epic gun and Dust works. Soon Crimson lets out an attack that misses Ozpin, but hits Summer who starts hanging from the cliff. Ozpin goes to rescue her while Crimson escapes. Ozpin tries to pull up Summer, but she can't get up, her last words being "help my daughter" and falls to her death. In the present, Blake and Weiss are once again in detention and Glynda requests Ozpin who's still staring into the closet. She notices and asks "when should she know" he responds "when she finds out on her own", and before he closes it it reveals the contents... Summer's cloak and Scythe... in addition (last time I ran out of time), I think they should have regular flashback sections, where it describes their first days of school (where Summer, Yang's mother, and Crimson were friends who came on the same ship), Beige (Yang's mother's name) and Summer were to each other as Yang and Ruby are (just not related), and the same with Summer and Crimson. However Beige drags Summer away from Crimson (as Yang did with Ruby) and she gets into an argument with Glynda (who acts and even looks a bit like Weiss). With no one to save her she ends up crying in the gardens until Ozpin arrives and helps her up and leads her to the auditorium. It wold be a nice plot twist since that would make Crimson the older equivelent of Ruby (a frightning thought ay). Again, I like it, especially the idea of Glynda, Ozpin, and Crimson being on the same team, but I can't agree with you about Summer, since I am 85 to 90% sure that she is White Cloak. White Cloak is a ghostly figure hovering over a grave, I'm sure she died and that White cloak was hers. The Academy may have made a funeral arangement on the cliff, creating the grave where she fell. In addition, the Headmaster may have told everyone to keep it a secret about Crimson's involvement, a descision Ozpin resented but respected... for now. And besides, it'd be a good emotional moment for Ruby when she finally confronts Crimson, taunting her about how easy she'll be to kill just like her mother, sending her in an uncharacteristic rage.

Now this just occurred to me: your theory about Ruby's mother could still be right, Ruby's mother may just not be Summer Rose. I feel like the Cliffside Altar looks too ancient to be from just a single generation back (assuming humans in the RWBYverse have earth-normal lifespans) and that it would have been tended by Glynda and Ozpin had that been the case. So while I agree with your theory about Ruby's mother, her team, and Crimson's corruption, I don't think Summer Rose is Ruby's mother. Besides, who would her father have been? That's the question isn't it, who was Ruby's father, I theorised it was someone who left shortly before Ruby was born. It may be subject to a plot twist.

Unknown man: Ruby Rose, I am your father

Ruby: no, that's not true, that's impossible!!!