Thread:SpiritedDreaming/@comment-24857712-20150927024310/@comment-26397825-20151011042055

Even if he's rather stubborn, he would be able to recognise that his efforts to help Carmine are not making him happy at all - in fact they are angering him. If his goal is to make people happy, like you planned originally, he would not keep pushing to help Carmine and would instead back off and acknowledge that his presence is not making the person happy, and they are happier...sort of...without him helping them.

There's a difference between being stubborn and being a thick idiot, and refusing to leave Carmine alone in some misguided attmept to 'make him happy' would be the latter in this case.

And what rumours would they know? The only rumours they should know is that Carmine is rather angry, so don't go near him, and Cyan is a really helpful guy, so if you need help ask him. That is the extent of any rumours that should abound about these two that would have any sort of basis in reality. Any other rumours would be kids being dicks and making stuff up because they don't like them, which I'm fairly certain Carmine and Cyan would be able to differentiate from legitamate rumours.