Board Thread:Episode Discussion/@comment-34633327-20171118002715/@comment-5430952-20171120084159

ChishioKunrin wrote: Rewatching the episode, I noticed two things in parts where I had been focusing more on Yang than Weiss, due to Yang being the one speaking.

1. When Yang says "Don't you dare talk about my family that way!", Weiss is looking up at her, wide-eyed, and flinches when Yang raises her voice to put emphasis on "dare". I rewatched the Volume 4 scenes where Jacques yells, and in Taking Control, while he's arguing with Ironwood, Weiss flinches when Ironwood yells "Jacques!" Also, I really do think that it's implied that Jacques is the one who broke something glass in the beginning of that scene, since Ironwood tells him to control himself shortly afterward.

So, Weiss does not take well to hearing people yell or raise their voice in anger. It makes sense. It's likely that she is that way because of Jacques. It was even implied, in Remembrance, that it's really not a rarity for Weiss' parents to yell at each other, considering she automatically assumed that the person Jacques was "shouting with" was her mother.

2. As Weiss and Yang are leaving, when Raven warns that she won't be so kind if Yang allies with Qrow, Weiss rolls her eyes. I got a laugh out of that.

Hmm, interesting comparisons. And yes, I finally caught that last bit upon rewatching the scene. So now Weiss and Yang have another thing in common: they both have a parent who's full of it. The only difference is Raven seems aware of it ("I know"), whereas Herr Schnee is blind to his own flaws, he doesn't have time for his lacking moral fiber, he has to make more Lien. It'll be very interesting when they see Raven again, most likely come the Battle against the Branwen Tribe in the season finale.

73.Anon.52 wrote: Personally I think if we apply Qrow's thoughts on STRQ's past it sheds light on why Raven joined and why she left, hubris​. they thought so much of themselves that when Ozpin said "let's save the world", they said, "sure, we'll get it done by the end of the month though right?, we wanna get to the tribes annual pillage party after we save it so we can lord it over them".

I doubt at the time they thought they would be part of a greater struggle, but rather believed they could solve the problem themselves, and when they learned they weren't able to, Raven left, and Qrow retreated into drink(I don't think he wasn't an alcoholic before, but he wasn't drinking to forget before).

Raven's semblance seems rather direct and best at getting to the heart of the matter, so I believe she was forced to face something she couldn't kill or injure, and chose to blame Ozpin for her failure rather than her own fallibility. Hrm, I dunno, I'm more thinking when Qrow saw the virtues of being a Huntsman, he gave up on the plan along with the tribe, which undoubtedly infuriated Raven to no end. I'm certain she blames Ozpin for "corrupting" her brother. Though I can hubris being a big reason she left, that and she probably felt she was betraying the tribe for staying away too long. Something like this anyway.