Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-174.135.62.244-20160603201323/@comment-190.213.244.46-20160713024024

SomeoneYouUsedToKnow wrote: 190.213.244.46 wrote: Its readable.Deal with it. Ooh, tough guy over here. But seriously, that grammar is atrocious. Do you honestly expect people to take your words seriously with spelling worse than even a 2nd-grade kid?

1-Yes, the show treats him hard ocasionally, but that is beside the point and doesn't really change anything (by the way, "loser" protagonists can still be Gary Stus, Author/Writer Avatars and Self-Inserts).

2-Whatever the point of the arc was for the plot is irrelevant, is the action and resulting situation what matter. In this case, Jaune defeating Cardin non-directly by proving to be the better Hunter in his face + telling him to stop blackmailing him and leave his friends alone.

To follow on the example I used earlier, let's say you make a story set in a school with a message about "facing your fears and problems". How do you push it? By making the MC defeat his bully, something you always wanted to do but never could, but now are doing "by proxy", helping you deal with it.

3-"A lot of anime protags used the "hidden potential" route". A lot of anime protags also happen to be or end up as Gary Stus, especially these days. And again, these points were not to "prove" Jaune is a Sue, or anything.

4-My point was that her mother died, which would normally be used for angst or at least some character development, as was the case with Yang. Instead Ruby doesn't really seem to give a damn or even shows any signs that she gives a damn, getting neither angst nor character development when the potential was right there, not even acting a bit sad about it except for maybe 1-2 short moments.

Which also goes right against what Red Like Roses part 2 implied. 1)Occasionally? Almost every scene his in he's making a fool of himself.

2) You cant really call the plot irrelevant when it directly contradicts your point.Again the point here isn't Cardin bulling.Its Jaune being idiot,realizing that he's being a idoit and taking steps to correct that.The bully arc is simply a vehicle for that to take place.Like the tournmanet was to Cinder plan.If the whole point was Jaune proving to be the better hunter.Then his Arc would have ended with him deciding  that he could do it on his own.

With that in mind the idea the Miles wrote Jaune to be a better version of him is unlikey at best.

3) Which is why I added the ''This is  when i thought....'bit.

4)S  it has noting to do with this conversation.Why bring it up?Unless your were trying to say that it the same with Jaune.Which I just proved fasle.