Board Thread:Episode Discussion/@comment-14138255-20161106163624/@comment-25266931-20161109023805

SomeoneYouUsedToKnow wrote: KNN005 wrote: I think at the end of Season 3 Cinder and Ruby should've fought and Cinder died. Summer child, you have no idea of good writing. Cinder was practically a minor goddess at that moment. Ruby was a rookie. If it wasn't for Silver Eyes, rational logic dictates Ruby should've died, because she was inferior to Cinder in literally everything. There was literally no way for Ruby to defeat Cinder, except via Silver Eyes of God. Ozpin couldn't defeat her, why would Ruby?

At the same time, killing Cinder off via a Deus Ex Machina/Ass Pull like the Silver Eyes would be in itself horrible writing. It was significant enough that it froze the Dragon, exponentially lowering the Grimm spawning numbers, if Ruby killed Cinder at that moment then everything about the villains would be a joke. "Maiden powers? Bah, still 1-shot".

The Grimm already felt like pushovers pre-V3, and the villains didn't seem threatening enough. Had Cinder died, all V3 achieved in that regard would be nulled.

I don't believe in having the same villains stick around for more than 4 seasons a piece. It seems you missed a fun fact: Volumes 1-3 were the prologue. The beginning of the book. Volume 3 in particular was supposed to be part of V2, but due to lack of time was forced to become it's own Volume.

Yes, it took them 3-4 years to finish the prologue. Take that as you will. But the point is, the story has literally just begun. I'm glad Queen Jess backed me up on this. Even if Adam hasn't been in the show that often or that much, us knowing about him and how the just barely sprinkle him in the show is obnoxious. It's like that old gag or the carrot just out of the donkey's reach as it walks. Or like how Thanos in Marvel movies is never fought and barely seen but mad hints are dropped about him. It's always "wait for the next movie wait for the next movie". I hope they aren't doing that with Adam. Don't save him up so long that the hype become tangiable and then it's a let down when it finally happens.

Your opinion of my idea of good writing is just that, an opinion. Are we really going to sit here and get Grimm battles as they save Cinder and Salem till the end? How many time skips will we need for Cinder if she's god level? When's enough, enough? I think that Ruby should never have made it to Cinder alone. She should've been there with Nikos and maybe a few others (like Qrow or Glynda) so they could be Cinder. I mean Merc and Em helped Cinder beat Amber. Wasn't Amber god-like?

Villains would still be a threat post V3 because there would still be Watts and Hazel and Tyrian and Adam and Salem and the WF and Sienna and ALL THE OTHER VILLAINS WE DON'T EVEN HAVE NAMES FOR! So just Cinder dying, would that reall break the show? Would the null everything? Not to me.

If the story is just not getting started what does that say about the series' life span? Is this gonna end at Season 8? 10? If it takes 3 seasons to set up the beginning then either this is gonna be a short or drawn out series. Either way they need to give more time to the villains. At this point not having them on screen and battling or revealing their past only helps them if they want the villains to be completely unsympathetic to the audience.

As for the Moonslicer, I agree with the shield reference. It's like blocking with a shield only to have the force hit the shield and knock you over. The Shield was there, but the power behind it still damaged you. Like the shield being shoved back into you and drawing blood and breaking a rib or your nose. Sometimes it's just better to dodge.

But yes, Queen Jess, it's super creepy for him to say the "my love" shit. It ruined his character design for me. I wanted him to be more like Byakuya in BLEACH.