Talk:Raven Branwen/@comment-2602:306:805D:8C10:D95C:C8E5:3755:71C4-20180125020900/@comment-25396609-20180126173130

There is ALWAYS a point where it's too late to earn redemption. Very few people actually reach that point both in real life and in fiction.

Raven, I think, hasn't reached that point but she is dangerously close and if she doesn't reform soon (which I suspect will start happening as of Volume 6) she'll likely get there pretty quick. Leting Yang take the relic instead of forcibly snatching it and running off is a good sign for her as a person and shows that she's got enough good left in her to stand a fighting chance.

Cinder was one of those people who not only lost her chance at being redeemed but threw it out the window to become a monster both literal and figurative; to the point she was discarding not only any good she had in her but her literal humanity in search of power.