Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-34553226-20180504204625/@comment-26018514-20180719222005

TOSHIKI OVERLORD wrote: Alhazad2003 wrote: ... I saw the fight several times and I can say that RAVEN DOES NOT FIGHT STRATEGICLY. IT WAS OPPORTUNISTIC. It is different, very different.

If she had fought strategically she would have frozen Cinder's Grimm arm forcing her to fight with one arm...

Instead, I take advantage of opportunities to distract Cinder for short-term advantages (when freeze your his feet to make that rock fall).

A person who fights strategically, fights in a more efficient way than his rival. Achieving a lot doing little. Raven was not strategic was opportunistic with some factors that came. And if the battle was supposed to be for that, he did very badly. Raven made almost the same movements as Cinder (and vice versa) the only differences were the fact that Raven used ice and Cinder used fire....

PS: Raven also did not have her powers in a natural and proper way. Remember that I killed the previous Maiden Spiring.

1. Not entirely, you're presuming that as a strategy she KNOW things she only learned during the fight, while a true strategist uses what they can find beforehand in their fights, it doesn't mean that a fighter who uses things they learn in a fight and adapt their strategy in the fight itself is not a strategist.

You are also looking at her strategy all wrong, her first priority wasn't to kill Cinder but rather her own survival.

2. The grimm "arm" was a Geist arm... you remember a Geist's only weakness no?(I'll give you a hint: it wasn't the limbs) so there really was no guarantee that(assuming she could remove the limb in the first place) it would have stayed "gone", it was a far better bet to go for the kill.

3. You're looking at the fight as an audience member and this sentence makes that rather obvious... WE know things that aren't immediately obvious in world because we have to, before the character does, you are letting that meta-knowledge in your analysis.

4. Raven was expending far less energy than Cinder was, which by your own definition equates to being strategic, while it is true she was burning just as much if not more resources, she wasn't using as much frenetic energy, and was attempting to calmly calculate her attacks, but she started that fight pissed, and still managed to make Cinder mad enough that Cinder made the most mistakes.

5. Cinder's was unnatural in that it was drawn into her by a Grimm Parasite, Raven's was natural because she had no such guarantee.