Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-43897075-20190923040451/@comment-26018514-20190925231957

Whitest Manta wrote:

I was talking about if Ozpin destroyed all 4 Relics(somehow)…

...Salems "Win Condition" by calling the Gods through the Relics. I wasn't implying the Relics is the only way she can win, only take away her current objective(with gathering the Relics to end Humanity once more).

The "Stalemate" in this situation would be taking away both their ability to summon the Gods. If Salen gets ahold of them, bye bye Humanity. If Ozpin gets ahold of them(and somehow manages to unite Humanity under one flag), he would "win" their little war. By no means is it Salems only way to win, but as it stands to our knowledge, it's the closest win she currently has. By taking that away, her plans take a hit. 1. What hope does the world have at that point? the Relics are literally the ONLY thing with power that can rival or Surpass Salem's own... they disappear? "O Hey Humanity, I'm a god", "No you're not, I'm this immortal ghost with a Genie in a broken Lamp who can say you aren't... who you can destroy over and over because I have so much less magic than you do even though we are the only ones with true magic left... Yes, magic is real!, I made a bird/man!..."

2. It's only a win condition if she wants to die or actually believes she can use them to kill both gods... neither are exactly something she'd be sad to lose over becoming a god by default... which is what she is.

3. Ozpin doesn't win that easily, the relics are a literal stop-gap at this point saving lives... what exactly do you think happens without them? Salems goal becomes mass genocide, either to consolidate her own subjects or just to wipe humanity out of spite, that is in no-way a win.