Talk:With Friends Like These/@comment-2600:8805:1400:99B:B8C0:70B9:100D:ECE-20200202035449

So now do people see my point my the ACEOPS. They're lap dogs. They put all their faith in Ironwood so they won't have to think for themselves. So they can dumb blame on their victims. Elm said "you don't have to understand order, you just have to follow them." Then later Harriet said "we're not doing anything, this is on them." They're adults, but they shift the blame like kids. Vine questioned what they were doing. But only enough to cost him the fight not ot stop his allies. Marrow, same deal, he didn't want to fight, his heart wasn't in it. And he lost. Only Elm, Clover, and Harriet wanted to follow orders at all cost. Clover paid with hard. And Harriet was finally humbled by her own ego. In a lot of ways, Cinder is worse than them by far, but they're just as deluded as she is.