Talk:Team SSSN/@comment-25936766-20160809014856/@comment-25936766-20160809041303

@Phantom: I got the idea that you were saying that in most countries people are not legally forced to give their surnames to their kids, they just choose to do it, and thus in Remnant, following that, they could just choose to not give their children the surname of neither their dad or mom, instead giving them something else more colorful.

Basically, I thought you said: Ruby Rose and Jaune Arc can have a child named Alex Andreet if they want.

I read the article you linked, but I don't see the point:

1-It's about unmarried parents. First section talks about the birth certificate, and even how finer details may vary, it's generally the same thing.

2-2nd section is about the Father's name. First assumptions made if the woman is married is that the father is her husband, and thus the baby is listed with his family name until proven otherwise. And if the father is not married to her, the child can still have his name if the father acknowledges he is their father, willfully or not.

So if Ruby and Jaune have a baby unmarried it can still have the family name Arc if Jaune acknowledges the relation, or Ruby forces him to.

3-3rd section is about the Child's name in some situations. For starters, unmarried couples have different family names most of the time. It explicitly says they aren't forced to choose a surname at birth, so they can choose to wait until later.

As for which last name they choose, the couple can choose to give the child the mother's last name (Alex Rose), the father's last name (Alex Arc), or both (Alex Rose Arc). The rest varies by state, though the father denying paternity does not guarantee the child will not have their name.

-In some, the mother can give the baby whatever name, including family name, she wishes, regardless of what the father wants (Ruby wants the baby to be called Alex Arc, he's called Alex Arc, Jaune has no choice).

-In others, both sides must agree on which surname to choose, and if they can't, the court does it for them. (Ruby wants him to be Alex Rose, Jaune doesn't want that, it's taken to court and the Law decides to make him Alex Rose in the end).

What does it have to do with people having to fit, or not fit, CNR through at the very least the first name? All it says is how the families, mostly unmarried couples, would decide on what family name the child gets, which is only maybe-partially related to the question (by virtue of "mom may choose to give Bob his dad's family name because it's a color name and her's isn't even if she hates his guts because she's too lazy to think of a color name herself").