Board Thread:Episode Discussion/@comment-26512661-20200118161649/@comment-5430952-20200120140817

ChishioKunrin wrote: post

I agree with most of this, no one's wholly right and no one's wholly wrong. Even though Ironwood is essentially abandoning Mantle, he knows he can't save everyone. He's more a realist than the still idealistic Team RWBY, who'll probably learn a harsh lesson after this battle. You'd think they would've learned it after the Fall of Beacon, though I know some of them are slow learners, especially Ruby.

And yes, Ironwood was right to be angry at Blake and Yang, leaking classified info is a serious offense in the military. People have been court-martialed for such acts irl, probably the same in Atlas too.

So now, all their lies and secrets have come back to bite them, and in the worst possible way. You'd think they would've known better after their falling out with Ozpin, alas they learned nothing from his mistakes, and thus repeated them.

ChishioKunrin wrote: There may be another solution that none of them are thinking of because their conflict is preventing any problem solving conversation.

Edit: Of course, there is also the fact that Cinder is still roaming around, and Team RWBY disagree with Ironwood's stance. How far would he go to stop these people from ruining his plan? What would happen if Cinder or Team RWBY incited a rebellion? True that, no one is thinking clearly anymore, with Mantle still under siege and Atlas Academy compromised. Now is the time for Ozpin to return, hopefully sooner rather than later.

No doubt there's gonna be a rebellion, though it might not be from either source. I am thinking Cinder will try to steal Fria's powers, but Neo beats her to it and becomes the Winter Maiden, all so she can achieve her real goal: killing Cinder. Some have suggested there's no way Winter could defeat Cinder as a newly annointed Maiden, though I don't think Neo will be thinking of that, only about facing Cinder on equal footing. Wouldn't surprise me in the least.