Board Thread:Episode Discussion/@comment-4141313-20190119003858/@comment-25936766-20190206220306

Damn you Wikia and your post-eating shenanigans.

HotSwappableGaming wrote: 1) Have you ever cut through metal with a single slice? It's surprisingly similar in cutting a tree down

2) There's no reason to think that Adam couldn't do the same, given their world.

3.1) This isn't your typical trope setting. This isn't your typical trope show. Adam would lose against the army

3.2) Cinder's whole team together could take them out, yeah. But without Cinder? Maybe.

3.3) Hazel is the only one who stands a chance, but gunshot after gunshot would still take him down. He's not a mobile opponent - he's a tank.

3.4) He's a dumbass using his semblance because the show has shown him to be one. Angry, unthinking, and blind. You see it with the stinger, with Nora, and with Ozpin. Dive deeper into it, his semblance is a painkiller. Too much of a painkiller dulls the sense's.

4) But RWBY is ABOUT imagination.

5.1) No way in fuck would he sidestep. That type of a character? Hell no.

5.2) say using a semblance run-around ability 1) Yes it is.....if we're talking about a raw chunk of metal. One dense block, instead of something much lighter and thin, like a car's door.

In the case of machines, they are not going to be full, dense metal blocks. That would be needlessly heavy and expensive. Even in parts that have no openings whatsoever, the metal is more of a durable cover, not filler. Especially in the case of robots, since you need to leave space for all the circuitry and internal parts to make the robot work.

Trees do not care about things like that. They are dense as fuck at the trunks, and quite rigid on top of that. Metal can only compare if we're talking solid, dense blocks, which is not the case with any functioning robot, which includes the Mech, and we actually saw a bit of it's internal design so you cannot argue otherwise.

At best, only a golem like the Petra Gigas could compare to trees in this regard.

2) When did I say Adam couldn't cut down trees himself? When I mentioned CR's proven sharpness, it was because it explains why it was able to tear the Mech so easily. I never even compared it to Adam in any sense.

But if you want me to say if I think he could: Yes he could, if he uses his Semblance, otherwise no. Because his sword is the kind designed for speed, not power. And the design means it lacks CR's effectiveness for things like this, because CR has more concentrated pressure and a handle that can function more similar to a lever.

The design differences between swords and axes (and scythes like CR, which are functionally poleaxes) make a huge difference, because physics. Not to say swords are worse. They just are indeed worse for cutting trees, because physics. Which is why, if Adam wants to cut a tree as well as Ruby can, he would have to compensate for the lack of focused force with extra power.

3.1) ......Serious question here: Are you being stupid on purpose, or do you simply not watch this show at all? Because since THE very first trailer of this show, all the way to the end of Vol.6, if there's an army of mooks fighting even just 1 badass, even one that's a novice in-universe like a Huntsman-in-Training, the lone badass wins, and even if they don't they still put up a better fight than the army.

>Ruby exterminated a whole horde of Beowolves alone before even starting her Beacon classes.

>Yang took down Junior and all his men alone in their own club before even starting her Beacon classes.

>Adam and Blake take down multiple AKs and only have some amount of difficulty with the lone, outstanding Spider Mech.

>Team RWBY defeats dozens of WF mooks in the train without any difficulties, after starting their trip to Mt. Glenn one-hit-killing entire groups of Grimm. They only have a hard time when Yang faces Neo and Weiss faces the WF Lieutenant.

>Ruby alone takes down quite a number of Grimm in her V4 short, IIRC even slicing a Nevermore in half. She only has some trouble with the lone Beringel.

>Weiss took out multiple Lancers on her own, and only had problems when the Queen showed up and shrugged off multiple boxes of exploding Dust.

>Yang took out an entire dozen of bandits alone without having to give a damn.

And those are just a couple of off-handed examples of this in the show. So again, I ask you: Are you being stupid just to antagonize me? Because to think Adam would lose against an army "because this isn't that kind of show" implies complete and utter ignorance about the show itself.

Not to mention, RWBY is indeed your "typical trope show". Leaving aside how all shows use tropes, Monty himself just wanted to make cool stuff without thinking (which is why The Breach is what it is), and he himself stated that he had no intention or desire of being original (if anything seems "original", it's thanks to MK).

The only thing where RWBY is "different" is character writing, because it's written by Murican writers and thus don't follow the same threads as japanese writers do nearly all the time.

3.2) Maidens are great compared to Huntsmen (usually), but you forget that in the same way, even rookie Huntsmen (and similar fighters) are just as great compared to random mooks, and even more compared to civilians that shake like jelly even while being fully protected by a shield.

3.3) And yet that slow tank kept standing for the entire Battle of Haven, even after being attacked by everyone-but-Yang, barraged by Ozpin twice, thrown through a wall by an overcharged Nora, and pierced body-through by a giant stinger before being dragged forcefully back into the room.

If he can endure that much and walk it off, what makes you think puny shots from normie guns would make any difference?

3.4) If we went by "what the show proves" then you're the one that looks dumb for thinking Hazel is a dumbass for using his Semblance. Because it was because of his Semblance that he was such a juggernaut for the entire night. He berserks, yes, but berserkering can work quite well, and in the show itself that would be an understatement.

Because of his Semblance he is also able to dope with Dust like he does. And consider that made him strong enough to 1-punch-kill the Queen Lancer Weiss summoned, while (assuming it's just as strong as the original) Weiss struggled just to hurt it.

At the same time, because he doesn't feel pain, he's not going to be flinching, he's not going to end up inmobilized on the floor like Ren and Qrow were, and at the same time can use more strength because the lack of pain means he won't unconsciously hold back.

His Semblance is literally, both in concept and from what we saw, one of the most practical and useful Semblances in this show. He would be a dumbass if he didn't use it.

4) No it isn't. Best it gets on that is Magic, and even then not much. "Women who can shoot elemental shit from their hands", "people who turn into birds", that shit is extremely lacking in imagination. The Vaults are better, but Fable did it first and Fable 3 was just as alien with it.

5.1) I've seen characters much bigger and bulkier and slower than Hazel doing small evasive hops. I see no reason for Hazel to not do the same if he can. Not my problem if you can't imagine a big, muscular man sidestepping.

5.2) And by that you mean what, Adam running like around using his Semblance on random trees? That would be brain-dead stupid of him, a total waste of energy.