User blog comment:SomeoneYouUsedToKnow/SYUTK's V5E4 - OHANA - Impressions/Recap/@comment-26018514-20171109010240/@comment-25936766-20171109223300

1) Home advantage only works if said home has anything that could give someone an advantage if they know the place.

Raven's camp is a plain field with multiple tents and a few cages. The tents are nothing special and fall apart with a simpleton being sent flying at them. The cages can easily be broken by even 1st-year Huntsmen.

There aren't any significant hills or anything to give someone the high ground. There aren't holes to trick people into falling. There aren't any harmful things present, like hot water or poison eves. There aren't even enough places to hide decently within the camp.

So no, Raven would get no real home advantage there. If she gets any, it's an advantage so small it changes nothing.

2) We do not know Amber's level of experience or training, or even how old she is. Saying she was Inexperienced (or Experienced) is more a guess than anything.

Also, Vernal has been raiding and pillaging VILLAGES. Who are 98% filled with normal people who can barely defend themselves from any decent Grimm for the most part, and if any Huntsman is present, they are never a numerous amount, and not necesarily Pros on Qrow or Raven's levels.

That's like saying some guy is super badass because they can 1-shot Lv1-to-3 monsters. It's very likely that even if Vernal has more expertise than Amber did at using the Maiden powers, she's never faced anything as tough as, say, RNJR+QO+Whoever Qrow adds to the table.

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3) Jaune not being able to use his Semblance yet is irrelevant, we've seen people deal a good amount of shit without using theirs, like Adam, Ironwood, and Mercury, and probably Ozpin.

And using Cinder as proof of anything is not really a good idea. Cinder showed great skill even before getting half the Fall Maiden's powers. And she's been working with the closest known equivalent of Remnant's Satan.

Vernal has Raven, but Raven doesn't give a damn about you unless you prove your worth, and if you wanna do that you have to do it on your own, so the chances of Raven training Vernal are slim.

And Vernal has spent years killing people weaker than Red Shirts, and there's only so much experience you can get from that.