Talk:Known by its Song/@comment-86.131.236.20-20171117175916/@comment-27144409-20171117233203

Chinder probably has more actual combat experience, which includes taking down a Maiden, though Vernal may have had the powers longer.

Cinder also uses weapons regularly, while Vernal has yet to be seen using one, and aside from Raven's personal weaponry, the  weapons at the bandits' disposal are limited to chipped swords, slow firing SMGs disguised as shotguns with bayonets, and a single multi-purpose revolver that jammed.

Cinder will likely have the element of surprise. She will have backup, which may include Grimm.

Weiss and Yang can help the rabbenmutter(?), but they'll be of limited help.