Talk:Cinder Fall/@comment-35585801-20180530165857/@comment-26018514-20180530172902

Again, I don't think Jaime was ever redeemed as much as became the least fucked up villain left and started using his power to help people... so in order for Cinder to be "redeemed", that way ALL the other teams would have to die, her minions would have to die, and Cinder would actually need to be honorable like Jaime(which she isn't). Jaime was never "irredeemable" as much as cocky and incestuous, once those were taken from him, he was just honorable, Cinder never had that quality before, and her self absorbed attitude isn't something that can be taken from her.