Talk:Lie Ren/@comment-24.22.111.201-20150618040707/@comment-24891101-20150618043126

My objection is that it's too cliché (yes, yes, I know). It needs to be complicated and convoluted. No simple resolution. They need to earn it, if it ever comes about. From my perspective, the solution to this is for Ren to be gay, so that he can at some point acknowledge Nora's feelings, but be unable to respond in kind. Otherwise it's too neat.