Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-24155619-20140711014702/@comment-73.42.187.52-20141207223840

173.58.251.107 wrote: growing into the role of a hero as opposed to being one from the start. Or a protagonist haunted by a failure. I like that too. Or one who believes he/she doesn't deserve their power.

Kirito in SAO actually fits all 3 of those... though the first one is developed off screen in the first/second episode, he just becomes so driven by his failures he becomes so BA and godlike quick enough you can forget that. Accel worlds main protagonist is similar, but he remains relatively weak due to being unable to power level. tbh my biggest beef with SAO is the Leafa relationship in the ALO arc, it just seemed unneccesary for the arc as well as being weird(the silica relationship in SAO already explored everything the Leafa relationship really added, and it is always weird seeing Leafa jealous because you want to slap her and tell her to find someone else because that relationship isn't healthy/helping anyone.

back on topic... Ren and Nora seems a much better ship because it does not seem they are related at all, and we already know they can live together, the only question is if their relationship can survive the next "step" or "level" of a mature relationship.