Board Thread:Speculation House/@comment-10390252-20141218201832/@comment-9464517-20150110144904

73.42.187.52 wrote: The Bespectacled Guy wrote: That's conjecture. We have no idea how good Adam is at hand-to-hand combat because we haven't seen him resort to it, but from what we have seen, he is noticeably superior to Sun in every other area. Ultimately, even if he couldn't use hand-to-hand to save his life, it wouldn't really matter in this scenario.

I cannot imagine a scenario where Adam somehow drops his weapon - he was shot in the face with a massive laser and still kept hold of it. And Sun wouldn't get the chance to disarm him, because of Adam's INSANE combat speed. Keep in mind, we've really only see Sun fight properly once, against Roman, who beat him to a stalemate and would likely have won if not for Blake's intervention. As much as I hate to use power-scaling, if Sun can't beat Roman, he isn't touching Adam. 1. except you are talking about a Faunus that shoots his weapon(hilt first) at you, against an opponent who is fast enough to both block bullets and fire back with the same weapon simultaneously, Sun might not even need to disarm him.

2. Don't forget that there are serious scaling issues with combat shown in the trailers, and combat on the show, though I grant that "black" might be late enough that it is true to form, "red" definitely wasn't, and white definitely had it's odd moments, like Wiess having yet to be shown singing or using some of those other spells.

3. Adam vs Sun is very much a toss up, especially as Adam's "finisher" strike required time to charge up(and possibly fed on the energy beam), and Sun didn't really seem invested in that fight(against Roman), I would wager he held back a little for the tournament, as I recall he didn't even use clones. 1. I must confess, I am a little confused by your opening sentence. Adam shot the weapon to stun the robot, before running at an incredible speed to catch it and slice the robot in half. Are you saying that Sun would have anticipated him doing this and caught the sword? Are you referring to Sun when you say that the character can block bullets and fire back with the same weapon (so can Adam)?

2. If you think the Black Trailer is likely true to form, then I'm afraid I don't see what the issue is here.

3. I agree about the difficulties of Adam's semblance. I consider it unlikely that Adam would deploy it against Sun, but if he did, he could absorb the firey strikes from Sun's gunchucks and use that against him (albeit in a less powerful manner than displayed in the trailer).

Why the hell would Sun hold back even slightly when fighting Roman? He was trying to defend Blake, who he'd just seen getting absolutely beaten down by the man. He didn't use clones because it was such a close range battle (also, I'd wager that they hadn't thought of a semblance for him yet).