Board Thread:Speculation House/@comment-34633327-20171002160810/@comment-26018514-20171003220954

KingFubuki92 wrote:

1. She would only have needed to tell her if there was a SEW there to let her know....

2. The peace was a facade....

3. They have the illusion of free will....

4. The Dragon...

6. Tyrian considering her a deity is more personal worship than being lied too....

7. Ironwood's... 1. That's not what she should have warned her about... a simple "there are powers like SEW that can hurt you now, look out for ____". Cinder thought herself an invulnerable god and paid the consequences, she even had that chat about that "hunger" with Salem where she explained her powers somewhat before the tournament, yet Salem said nothing.

2. Salem has only been "a" leader of the WF for about a year or so now, it's a big assumption to say Ozpin knew anything about their involvement, Salem and Cinder certainly put forward that he didn't know, and all Qrow said was "queen has pawns"... which could have been referring to Cinder's team rather than the WF, all they knew was the local WF's motives seemed different.

All revealing Salem does is get her more followers, and create a cold war era fear over the common citizen, unless they know her exact location and can kill her... not to mention if she is similar to Ozpin revealing how to kill her and his own capabilities could result in his own death, as he does follow council instructions, while Salem does what she wants.

3. That is your assumption, you can make a far better case that Salem's group has the illusion of free will and Salem tells them only what will make them do as she likes, Ozpin teaches his students a profession, then throws them off a cliff and hires them if they show promise and come back, they don't have to stay with him, the same cannot be said of Salem at all... unless you forget about Tukson(he wasn't killed by the WF, he was killed by higher orders from Salem/Cinder).

4. The dragon was theirs only on the night beacon fell, and it isn't dead, it's frozen/asleep, Pyrrha is dead, Ozpin is believed dead, that's more than a fair trade in the grand scheme of things.

6. It indicates that none of her circle really know everything about her as you claim, they each have their own reasons for being there and do not appear aware of or informed of each others motives, which was my point.

7. Again, why would anyone tell that idiot about your ability to resurrect? the last time he "helped" he took Ozpin's job by stabbing him in the back and then royally fucked it up.

I see 2 possibilities for what would happen had he known:

1. Attempting to save future Oscar's Ironwood tears Ozpin from his host into an android body, possibly killing both of them and ceasing Ozpin's resurrection... losing all of his knowledge.

2. Ironwood waits for and depends on Ozpin in his next life, because of Ozpin's influence. Ironwood is a leader who needs to depend on himself, Ozpin is a teacher who cannot always be there, he needs to let his new host adjust and try to live his life as long as possible.