Talk:Volume 6 Adam Character Short/@comment-28171999-20180914113213/@comment-25936766-20180915005925

"They were so taken in by what was presented in Volume 4 that they believed that was the real Raven, when nothing could be further from the truth."

What are you talking about, Alhazad? V4 Raven is the real Raven since V5 Raven is literally the same as V4 Raven, just with some actual depth in place in this time.

What did her V4 scene tell us? She has a condescending tone when not mad, same in V5. She cares about her tribe and could care less about her biological brother and daughter, same in V5. She objects to the idea of offering any remote support to Ozpin even if the fate of the world depends on it, same in V5. She's unwilling to help or even talk if there's no benefit or need for her, same in V5. And so on.

How does V5 Raven differ in any way from V4 Raven? Is it the whole "surrounded by wimps despite being a social darwinist" bit? Because we've only seen them try to take on a Huntress(-in-training), and off-screen Merc and Em, the kind of people Raven and Qrow were literally stated to be sent to Beacon to be able to fight against in the first place. And Spring's tale heavily implies that Raven was a god-awful teacher.

Or is it the "killed a child" part? Because she already had no qualms with killing innocent villagers, which would include kids, for a living and leaving the survivors, incluing kids, to the wolves. So how does V5 Raven differ in any way from V4 Raven?