Board Thread:Speculation House/@comment-31953669-20180124124137/@comment-14909251-20180314051109

Sentry 616 wrote: DA,

I will bring up something I pointed out a while ago.

Even ignoring that Cinder's Aura was depleted and that her new arm was a hole in the coverage, she was frozen, but Raven was merely encased in ice.



Ice and cold are far more lethal than you give them credit for. I don't think you're giving me much credit. The effect of the cold on a normal human body in our normal world is not such that it is near instantaneous death. It will a bit of time, more than it would take for her to reach the bottom of that ravine probably. However, the cold, in addition to her general exchaustion and injuries, would probably be enough on its own to knock her out even with her being able to break free and slow her descent to something survivable. She also has a built-in body warmer.

73.Anon.52 wrote:

1. Except they weren't, Roman wasn't confirmed dead until the volume commentary... which V5's isn't out yet to my understanding

2. Penny's death was never in question, she died, that was and has always been indisputable, the question was and still is whether she could come back from that or have a back-up, and a big part of this is because the writers wasted time creating a line about Penny's plans(if she doesn't come back this was wasted)

3. Roman: offscreen(that single chomp shouldn't have killed him by itself), Tukson: Offscreen Leo: Offscreen Ozpin: Offscreen(he wasn't really shown dying, just disappearing)

Pyrrha, Penny, Vernal, Sienna Khan, and that unknown Huntsman are pretty much the only on screen deaths in the series. I don't consider Leo's death to be "off-screen" since you could literally hear him die. Tukson was more a discretion shot and confirmed at the end of the episode anyway. Ozpin is a noteworthy exception to all this and that is because it was to some extent necessary to set up the reveal about his situation with maximum suspense. Roman was eated, so basically the only path for his survival would have been blowing up the Grimm from the inside. That was plausible, but it was still a much more plausible death sentence. There was one thing that was theoretically possible that we couldn't definitively say he could do, especially under the circumstances. We have no reason to doubt that Cinder could break free of the ice and keep herself from falling at terminal velocity. People are just assuming she didn't.