Talk:Cinder Fall/@comment-35585801-20180514171634/@comment-26018514-20180515005509

You do realize this series is only 2 Volumes out of the prologue right? in a series planned to have 20 seasons, by no means are we anywhere near halfway, so all of your bad guy examples... are complete bullshit not worth talking about.

1. You put forward that because they made Cinder's death ambiguous, we must assume she is alive, you then gave examples of "unambiguous" deaths that RT has done in the series. I then proved that all of them were as Ambiguous as Cinder's, and ALL of them were examples where the character has been declared dead.

2. You assumed when I said Cinder was dead it was necessary only for the other Villains we have now, I just told you it is necessary for other Villainous Maidens. Salem cannot gain 2 more maidens while having a maiden as strong as Cinder capable of training them or her forces losing would never make sense, yet she needs both remaining maidens to get the other relics, she also ordered Cinder NOT to absorb or attempt to absorb Springs powers if she could avoid it, which indicates it likely she planned on making others eventually anyways.