Board Thread:Off Topic/@comment-25396609-20170505174118/@comment-25936766-20170601004833

HookshotHotshot wrote:

1) Yes. Exactly. And that's fine, as long as you're punching skin and muscle, but you don't often get to the point where you can punch a person's heart. If you could, that'd do way more damage and have more capacity to be fatal than a punch on the arm of the same force.

2) Yes. But what I'm saying is that scaling the blast from the Celica to the blast from Roman......... looks about 1 and a half times more powerful, as opposed to the many times more powerful that you would assume (Grenade from the cane plus more than 5X more dust to react)

3) From which scenes are you basing that?

4) Also, keep in mind, Yang may have 3 factors to any given punch; the two we've considered (her strength and the blast of the Dust itself), but she also may get a boost in damage from the blast used to propel that dust round out; the muzzleflash.....strong enough to fling her around... 1) Technically speaking, if you punch someone it does the same thing. The force passes through them in the direction it is heading. Punches, firing shots, etc, all do that, with varying levels of effectiveness depending on the kind of attack in itself.

With explosions, it's not like your organs are directly hit, or your bones or veins or anything. It's more like being violently pressed and pushed and shaken. They hit the body and only the surface of it, and the force transfers, making it hit the things inside, including organs and bones.

Like I said here, it's the same with a punch. Ever wondered why, if you punch someone hard enough in the lungs, even though you don't hit the actual lungs, they still run out of breath? The same principle.

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2) Well, we could assume the Fire Dust was just...fully loaded. A small Dust vial had enough Dust to make an explosion that left a non-existant crater. A Dust Crystal should have much more Dust in quantity, thus more energy released if it gets blown up.

However, Glynda blocked the hit on Ruby's side. So effectively, they didn't even get pushed back. So perhaps it was just inhibited.

3) The show in general.

4) Actually, not strong to fling her around. Everytime she fires EC, she doesn't even flinch from the recoil. To really fling herself around, she fires at the ground to send herself flying like Ruby does.

Now, sure, while she was falling it did fling her around........but consider how 1) This is RWBY Vol.1, many things are questionable, and 2) Said "muzzleflash" is not even 1/3 that big any other time she fires EC.

So either she can just blast the Dust in a cone without actually firing a projectile (which would in practice be more shotgun-like), or it was another of Monty's "cool stuff before anything else" moments.

Not to mention, in the air, you don't have to deal with things like friction or weight keeping something anchored to the ground, so it's easier to push things. Even weak force can send someone moving in X direction (except up, normally), only "remediated" by how it's also somewhat easy to move around in the air (horizontally) with the right poses.