Talk:Raven Branwen/@comment-1446360-20180425054743/@comment-26018514-20180425174953

@BT, no, the hatred is somewhat out of proportion

1. Abandoning Yang; we STILL don't know the circumstances, but getting Summer pregnant about 2 years later despite shutting down emotionally tells us there were likely circumstances that made Raven leave other than Ozpin, and she still NEVER "left"... she still watches over Yang on occasion, she just has a self imposed rule of non interference... for all we know that story when Qrow saved the girls? It is entirely possible Raven portal'ed him there.

2. The Spring maiden: we still don't know for certain that Raven even purposefully killed her, much less the circumstances. It is also entirely possible she was training Vernal simultaneously for the purpose of transferring the power to Vernal, only to transfer the ability to herself accidently after a training accident.

3. It is also possible she was attempting to pass the powers to Vernal to allow Yang a normal life.

A flawed character is plenty sympathetic especially if they get to the point they WANT to change, one of her flaws happens to be pride, which is why she has not and will take a while yet to actually show regret or apologize(if she ever does, full 180's are not that common or believable).

She has a decent chance at redemption, Azula did as a character too(until about book 3 when she went completely mad with power and misplaced responsibilities). Raven(unlike Azula) has been making decisions that while immoral are still attempts at keeping her responsibilities to the tribe(not herself), in keeping with their past leadership.