Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-168.103.228.28-20150809162836/@comment-168.103.228.28-20150810023512

@LiveandSound: Okay, that was not my intention; the Wikia was acting weird and I didn't know it would do that. And next time, be a bit more respectful. Acting like a jerk isn't going to get you anywhere.

@LiveandSound (Original Response):

Okay, thanks for your response, but I have some counter responses:

1. First off, Pyrrha being a mentor isn't my own idea: it is something many of the fans believe that Pyrrha has a sort of mentor relationship with Jaune at the moment. If that is not how you view her, that's okay: just understand that other people do disagree and she does occasionally show this traits (i.e. teaching Jaune how to fight, convincing him to be honest with Weiss, etc.). Along with this; I kind of disagree with how Pyrrha is only in the show for Jaune. If anything, I think they play off of one another as counterparts: Jaune is the more awkward, Classic Anti-Hero who is unsure of himself but is still able to make connections far easier than Pyrrha, while Pyrrha is a gifted champion whose position has lead to isolation and it is hard for her to make any kind of relationship with others. If anything, the two are together more to provide for each other's needs, regardless of whether they end up as a couple or not.

2. While I do think that is a possibility, we don't know exactly what Cinder meant yet by what she said, nor do we know all of the rules about Semblance and Aura within the RWBYverse. So, while I am not saying you are wrong, I am saying that it isn't what the writers intend to happen. And if anything, I'd say the best idea is for us to say that neither of us know exactly what Cinder is planning yet and we will have to wait to see what it is.

As for overkill: yeah, I have to disagree with that. While it is true that making an antagonist so strong that they can't seem to be beaten by the heroes, then having the heroes beat them regardless, is ridiculous. However, powerful antagonists being beaten isn't bad, as long as the protagonists are able to come to a close or equal power level where it is believable they could defeat the antagonist. So, if I am right about my theory that Cinder wants to steal the other students powers to improve her own, the other characters may already be strong enough, or may have to spend a part of the series preparing to get strong enough, to defeat Cinder.

3. Actually, Too Good for this Sinful Earth is a trope that has been used for Mary Sues, particularly in Star Trek Fanfiction ( TV Tropes Article: Mary Sue  ). It just doesn't appear as much in other works. Besides, arguably, any quality that makes a character unique can become a Mary Sue trait if the writer and story makes it sound like you should love and worship said character for said traits. Along with this, I am fully aware about the Jerk Sue archetype, but I was not talking about them: I was taking about the classic Mary Sue archetype and how adding in that part may make Pyrrha look more like a Mary Sue.

4. I think you misunderstand: I wasn't trying to say that Pyrrha was a Mary Sue. I was saying adding in that particular trope might make her appear as more of a Mary Sue, at least to some fans of the show. I wasn't intending to call her a Mary Sue and I apologize for the miscommunication.

5. I really like this idea and I hope they do something like this in the show, especially if it happens after Jaune goes through enough character development that he is able to defend himself without Pyrrha's help. Still, I think Kyran's idea is a bit better: if they basically said that Pyrrha's injuries made it so that she couldn't fight for the rest of the series, then this would only enforce your idea that Pyrrha only exists as a catalyst for Jaune, nothing else. If this happens, then she would either be needed to be demoted to a minor character or taken out of the show as a whole, which a lot of people may not like. Besides, it would also make it seem like Pyrrha's entire character was supposed to revolve around Jaune, which would make her other qualities completely meaningless.