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BlizzardDragon wrote: 73.Anon.52 wrote:..

1. & 4. That's operating under the assumption that Leo was even working for Salem at that point in time. Spring ran off about a decade ago, and I don't think Leo was working for Salem for a decade. In addition, if he was, why didn't they start by attacking Haven instead of starting at Beacon? They could have done it before Spring ran, as they'd have the location of a weak maiden, the professor with the knowledge of a relic and its location, and a chance to fuck the world over a decade in advance.

2. & 3. The door isn't the issue. Its the fact megalomaniacal idiots want the powers of the Maiden's for themselves. Even if the 4 Seasons were meant to just be a distraction, you don't just leave them undefended. That's like locking a safety deposit box inside a safe, but making the key for both the same and then leaving said key on the counter in the lobby of the bank. The relics being kept out of Salem's hands is important, but that requires keeping the Maidens out of her hands too. And out of the hands of any megalomaniacs that want to have the power of Demigods. Not to mention protecting the maidens is outright said to be one of their goals, as its not just Salem who would want them.

''Goodwitch: Our group was founded in order to protect both mankind and the Maidens. Those hungry for power hunted them with the hope of inheriting their strength.''

Qrow: (finishing his drink) And as you can imagine, the ones that succeeded weren't exactly the ones you'd want to have unimaginable power.

Considering Maiden's are virtual demigods, it would make more sense to both keep an eye on them and train them, or if they are already "lost" to the enemy, terminate them. I doubt Amber was self taught in using the powers of Fall afterall.

5. Its still a possibility. If she can't reasonably defend herself, they can't use all their resources to guard her 24/7, and if she isn't making progress in learning how too, then she could very easily be seen as not worth the effort and killed so they could try again.

6. It was never said how long Amber had to live. The reason they wanted Pyrrha to do the transfer was because that time span was an unknown factor and because of the risk posed by letting half the powers potentially find the other half. She wasn't dead, but she was slowly dying. The fact that Cinder shooting her caused her to gasp for air means before then, she was breathing still. Amber was dying, and they figured it was practical to assuredly keep away half of Fall from Cinder with a morally questionable method than to look for a better alternative or hope she wakes up.

7. A. That story is bullshit to begin with due to one thing: The Wizard's reasoning. The story says the Wizard gave them the powers so they would be able to share them with Remnant and help people. Except those powers just happen to be the very powers needed to open a specific set of doors holding artifacts of power, and everyone with an idea they exist and their mothers want them for themselves. Would be a pretty big lapse in judgement to not only give four random teenagers the powers of gods and not expect someone to want them themself, while also making these four nomadic sisters the keys to unlocking four gifts from the gods. Glynda herself even said they were hunted in the quote above.

7. B. This line I never said was Ozpin's belief, I was stating this from an objective standpoint. The maidens before Cinder and Raven don't seem to be treated as people, but objects. Note Qrow wanted to launch a raid of the Branwen tribe to get Spring, despite the fact that if she was there, she may not want to go with Qrow. Or how Amber they were readily willing to let die if it meant protecting the other half of the Fall powers. She was dying, but rather than hook up to life support that wouldn't easily fail and lock her comatose body away in a build different than the one with the relic in it to begin with, they were ready to let her die so they can transfer the power to Pyrrha. Its the powers people care about, not the souls they're bonded too. 1. & 4. Actually, that has nothing to do with whether or not Leo had flipped that early, it's all about what he did when pressed. He's a coward training someone who he at best might have hoped would be a god better capable of defending him, as for why Salem didn't go after Haven first we already know; The Vytal festival and defeating Ozpin on his own turf before he knew anything was happening. Defeating half of your opponents forces and potentially taking 2 objectives before they can rally is better than just taking one of four objectives.