Talk:Cinder Fall/@comment-35585801-20180530145331/@comment-5430952-20180530191749

Cinder lost her chance at redemption after the Fall of Beacon, when she unleashed hordes of Grimm on the school, turned the Atlesian robots against the Huntsmen, killed Amber, Ozpin, and Pyrrha in one night. Clearly she has no interest in redemption, only in her own glorification. And since RT did nothing to make her the least bit sympathetic, I have no problems with her dying in Volume 5, she definitely deserved it.