Board Thread:Speculation House/@comment-4830106-20151115174306/@comment-14909251-20151116225615

Azurebluecyan wrote: I'm fairly certain they're not directly grimm. Else Ozpin wouldn't have bothered making the distinction when Qrow said the things she made are fear and then he followed up by saying that fear brings the grimm.

They don't have to be machines, but that doesn't mean they have to be grimm either.

I didn't really take that statement as drawing a distinction or even as clearly saying they are not Grimm. For one, if this is some sort of hybridization or mechanical adaptation then they may not truly be Grimm. Also, he was transitioning to why Ironwood's strong displays of force were not exactly helping. Grimm insight fear and draw more Grimm so it is not that simple. While they are obviously not ordinary, that does not mean they are not Grimm in a sense or derived from Grimm.

XDex wrote:
 * Winter makes Weiss seem like a lot nicer person. Though I suspect there's a sweet side underneath the cold exterior. Very interesting character.

The thing about having a sibling many years older than you is that sibling can be more like a parent than a sibling. It is especially the case when you grow up in a strict and controlling household as the children may adopt those same tendencies, especially the first-born if we assume Winter is her only or eldest sibling. Combine that with her experiences with the White Fang and her father, it is not surprising that Weiss would seem cold, but I have always maintained that this is just a front. Weiss has had to close off her true feelings for a long time. I imagine Winter is at least a bit that way, but probably is much more like her father than Weiss.

Mercen-X wrote: I kinda think Cinder only gained access to the tournament controls in this episode. I don't believe she has been manipulating all of the fights. 'Cause why help the Valians?

When you think about it that could explain how SSSN ended up being put in such a bad situation. Cinder and her crew have been digging up the weaknesses of all the students, so it is probable they uncovered Neptune's fear of water and were trying to keep them from winning.