Board Thread:Episode Discussion/@comment-34633327-20180120015359/@comment-2001:8A0:D212:2101:14E4:34A7:F35:19DD-20180122201132

MetallicArcher wrote: Something maybe only tangentially related to the current conversation but it's been on my mind for a while: We know Raven saw Qrow was dying from Tyrian's poison back in V4, and I think we can say with little doubt her wanting Qrow dead was complete BS and only to convince Cinder & co she meant business since if had wanted she could have curb stomped Qrow.

Now, the patrol guy who talks with Jaune says they found them because they saw the smoke and it caught their eye since the town has been abandoned for years. We also see the ships coming from what looks like fairly high and away distance.

Thing is, re-watching the fight, there wasn't really any smoke. AT the beginning the Grimm (which's name I shall never be able to spell from memory and I do not feel like looking up) kicks up some dust/earth and at the end it dissolves into a cloud of black smoke, but it's not that large and it dissipates rather quickly and rather low to catch up the eye of a patrol group that didn't seem to have been flying anywhere near above the town. Raven didn't see Qrow was dying, she saw him injured which for all she knew wasn0t anything special, like they originally thought. As far as we know, she didn't see him fight Tyrian and had no way of knowing he was poisoned. The smoke was from the Grimm they killed, and yes it was a lot, they made sure to show how much was it - they wouldn't have done that if there was on purpose to it (at least they shouldn't have). Also we don't see any other smoke.

Raven didn't want Qrow to die, it was obvious she wanted him there to cause a distraction - she flat out told Vernal that. But that still doesn't mean she was the one who allowed her little brother to be saved.