Thread:DemonicsFire/@comment-24993958-20170105135114/@comment-4010415-20170106232109

DemonicsFire wrote:

1. when I was told to stop, I stoped. even by your logic there was no war, unless you count both sides, then it was 4. but following that logic any change back edit is a "edit war"

2. and about my old ban, that was almost a year ago when I first joined the wiki. that feels like a grudge hold over that long of a time, lol. back then I had almost no idea how wikis work, I have never been a person that posts in them, only looks at them for info. I thought the rwy wiki wasa nice place to start, it looked friendly, even if other places seid... other wize.. calling up on past things is like calling up someone for sitting there paints as a baby.

3. and as I have said already, that you don't seem to see. deleting the warring from my wall was me just cleaning up my wall. if I knew it "wasn't allowed", of better yet, was told it wasn't allowed I wouldn't of. also, I see its been put back up, so its like it was never done, but I'm still banned....

4. in my eyes the best way should of been having 1 mod do all the warnings/bans, having more then 1 makes it that info can get losts and feelings can making what mods do go into the gray zone. so for this one. should of keeped sprit on it and only her. after her wariing about the edit it should of been droped unles I started up a "edit war", be it on the same page or a different one. 1. My understanding of the situation is that you stopped because the other person stopped re-adding their edit, not because you were told to stop. And no, simply changing back an edit once is not an edit war. Vedran defined an edit war: Three or more edits done on the same page regarding the same information. In other words:


 * Person makes an edit.
 * You undo the edit.
 * Person adds it back.
 * You undo the edit again.

That is an edit war. If you hadn't undone the edit again, the only party who was participating in a war would've been the other person, not you, but you engaged in the edit war by undoing it again.

When faced with an edit war, you are expected to try to start a discussion over the edit that you're having a disagreement over, rather than just changing it over and over again. Discussion gets us somewhere, edit warring does not.

2. It's not a grudge. We escalate the ban regardless specifically because you know better now. You've been warned and punished for it before, so you should know not to engage in such activity, but you did it anyway. Regardless of how long ago it was, you should still know that you're not supposed to do that, and as such, we escalate the ban. It wouldn't make sense to go all the way back to what we do with new users who actually don't know better.

3. We have told you before that you can't delete warnings. Vedran outright told you that you have been banned in the past for ignoring and deleting warnings.

4. Mods cannot ban. Admins can. Spirited cannot ban you, and neither can Vedran or Hazel. A mod's job is to keep an eye on things when the admins are busy or aren't available to do so and deliver warnings. Spirited and Vedran were doing their jobs. Sometimes, due to timezones, other mods or admins must take over in talking to someone who has broken the rules so that they can get a response without having to wait 8+ hours for the mod or admin who originally contacted them. We keep each other informed via the group that we chat in.