Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-32342952-20180124211446/@comment-25936766-20180124221913

Luffy the Revolutionary wrote:

1) Besides watching people she loved being killed by the White Fang, Weiss has suffered. From the time she was ten, everyone that Weiss ever knew either pretended to be interested her just so they could gain access to her family’s wealth or ended up abusing her like her father did.

2) ...Weiss believed becoming a Huntress and redeeming her family meant being the best at everything. Her wanting to be a leader of Team RWBY showed how huge her ambition was.

3) She was not afraid to use people to further her goal, as evidenced when she planned to partner up with Pyrrha so she could be noticed by the academy.

4) Weiss keeping her heart frozen and interacting as little as possible with anyone was because she believed that they would make fun of her or were only after the perks of her family name, just like those who pretended to be her friends.

5) Then she meets Ruby, the energetic girl who nearly caused her to explode and who really wanted to be her friend, but Weiss, not int used to having a real friend, as well as Ruby being the cause of the accident that nearly killed them both, kept from interacting further.

6) ..........Her anger then led her believe that Ruby was too immature for the role.

7) Professor Port’s advice on being the best person she could be was exactly what Weiss needed.

8) And then as she is finally overwhelmed by the soul-crushing sorrow from living inside the walls that she kept around her fragile heart, her last thought before she committed suicide would be: “I am the loneliest person in the world.”

9) Telling Ruby that she wanted bunk beds as a kid was the first time she came out of her shell, and I wouldn’t be surprised that she went somewhere to cry because holding in that sadness for so long can break anyone.

10) Fast forward to Volume 4 and Winter helps her let go of her constant need to be perfect to restore their family’s honor and advises her to leave and carve out her own future. 1) Correction: Since she was 12. Blake said Sienna became the WF's leader 5 years before Vol.1 And in Vol.1 Weiss was 17.

Also, we don't know anything about Weiss's actual social experiences prior to Beacon. She said guys always were interested in her name but not in her specifically - part of the reason she was so cold to Jaune in Vol.2 - but nothing says people made fun of her, nothing says everyone she met just tried to use her, and she doesn't act like either is the case.

And in fact, her instant-crush on Neptune - the guy who literally flirts with nearly every girl he sees, no matter the circumstances - says otherwise. And do note the crush started in Vol.2 where the only people she was friendly with were her teammates.

2) You say "ambition", I say "logic". She didn't know Blake or Yang well enough, and Ruby had given her an awful first-impression....twice. But she knew herself, she knew she herself was inteligent and had skill. It's only logical that she would recommend herself to be Team Leader, based on what she knew.

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3) She never planned to use Pyrrha per se, however. She planned to become partners with her to make an unstoppable duo. Pyrrha was an Ace in many ways, and Weiss was confident in her own academic and practical skills. Pair the Best with the Best and they'll get very far.

Plus the scene was at least in part meant to be a joke, not something serious.

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4) Read point 1. We don't know, and don't have anything that says, that people pretended to be friends just to use her. At most, guys who showed interest in her, and that's if we assume there's no bias in what she says.

I doubt her whole childhood she only had "fake friends". What's more believable is that Jacques's controlling way to raise his kids prevented her from making friends for real.

5) "Nearly killed them both"......quite bull, considering this thing called Aura. The explosion didn't even push Weiss back a single step, so it was clearly not that strong either.

Besides, it was Weiss's fault for shaking the Dust Vial on Ruby's face. If one was analyzing Weiss's psyche, I think they should focus more on how she blamed Ruby for it and even called her an idiot.

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6) "Her anger"? Nah. Ruby herself led her to believe that, what with acting so clownishly during Port's class you'd think she was raised in the Circus. Weiss was the kind of person who went to Beacon to learn, not to play around like a 10-year old.

Granted, you could argue that it was very impatient of Weiss, since Ruby is really younger than her teammates, and it was literally Day 1, yet Weiss didn't really, say, wait to see if she takes her job more seriously later on.

But that is Weiss. She is judgemental, and she has/had a nasty habit of jumping to conclusions based on first impressions, and sticking to them quite stubbornly. Ruby, Blake, Jaune, Neptune, Faunus in general, boys who flirt with her, we got quite the number of examples in this show.

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7) He also said she was a spoiled brat who always was given what she wanted, and we all know how true that is.

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8) And at this point this "psychological insight", starts to feel like it fails at it's purpose. You begin this thread by saying Weiss is a lot like you. And while I don't know what you've been through at all, I still feel I'm not quite wrong when I say this:

You are projecting yourself onto Weiss.

Even leaving that aside, Weiss has never ever shown any signs that she's suicidal in any way. In fact, I bet that she never was and won't be for a long-ass time, because if she killed herself she would not redeem the Schnee name.

9) I'm pretty sure the moment she saved Ruby from the Deathstalker was the first time she "broke" out of her shell. Even with that said, that whole part of your "insight" reeks of melodrama.

I always wanted a Playstation when I was a kid, along with a Nerf gun and a full-body pajama based on a dog. I'm not going to crawl into the nearest corner and cry my heart out after telling someone that, even though I live in Venezuela where all that is nearly-impossible to buy for the middle-class.

Weiss wanted bunk beds when kids. She never got that. Then she got it after RWBY remodeled their room. Cool, she's happy to get what she's wanted since kid. But she wouldn't go cry on a corner or anything so melodramatic. At most she would pretend to not be so happy to keep face.

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10) Winter never even appeared in Volume 4, or 5. And in Weiss's character short, what she told Weiss was that she needed to learn how to handle herself, because Winter wouldn't always be there to save her, what with having a job in the Atlesian Military as a Specialist.

And in fact, Winter never told her ever about "letting go her need to be perfect always". If anything, she insists on the exact contrary, even in public.