Talk:Cinder Fall/@comment-36530241-20190622020624/@comment-5430952-20190623074721

Ugh, this summary was painful to read, definitely won't read the finished version.

Seriously, trying to make Cinder an SJW out to bring down the "evil Ozpinian patriarchy?" And worse, a Karl Marx-style "visionary," we've seen how well Marxism worked in the real world, it would doubtlessly be the same in Remnant.

Along with that, do you really think she'll be able to fool Salem about her true intentions? You saw how quickly Cinder brought Adam and Roman to heel, that's what would happen to Cinder if she steps out of line. Who do you think she learned it from?

Srry, but trying to make Cinder even remotely sympathetic is a no go in my book. Sorael would probably love it, since that's how he also sees Cinder, but I'll definitely pass.