Board Thread:Episode Discussion/@comment-4141313-20190119003858/@comment-25936766-20190124192042

BlizzardDragon wrote:

1) ....So to arrest them and expect them to not break free is a whole new level of stupid,

2) especially since its still sending them to Atlas where they'd see Ironwood, which is rewarding their behavior in a sense.

3) Plus, if they were being arrested, why wouldn't they be locked in Argus?

4) Seriously, why is it hard to understand that the heroes performed a necessary evil, and that what Cordovin did was not only stupid and an overreaction, it was also no justifiable!

5) Or foreigners trying to cross the border and being killed for it. 1) Except with Weiss, nobody was expecting her to beat up the Nubuck Bros and kick them out. Meanwhile, in the hypothetical scenario I mentioned, actual measures would be taken so they don't.

2) Yes, and no. In this scenario the part of sending them to Atlas is a favor out of gratitude for, at the end of the day, being the ones who prevented Argus from turning into Vale 2.0. But at the same time, they are sent there as criminals, not tourists or something innocent, because they still hold quite the responsibility for what happened.

3) Multiple reasons are possible. Like a lack of proper and efficient security measures to prevent a whole group of Huntsmen from breaking free, especially after said group already took out their resident Kaiju-killer, and especially after the base was attacked.

Besides, the reason this happened was because they wanted to go to Atlas. They're less likely to try to break free and cause another mess if they are taken to Atlas.

4) Thing is, first of all, it was not a necesary evil. They simply didn't even bother to think of any alternatives. Like having Weiss call Winter and see if they can get a ride there legally. Or find some guy to smuggle them in.

But nope, Jaune thought of stealing a ship, and that's the first thing they decided to do. A necesary evil doesn't work as an excuse if you simply didn't bother to think of other options.

Second of all, what Cordovin did was stupid and overkill, and she is to an extent responsible for the Grimm attack, but it is also justified, or at least has an excuse. Her orders were to not let anyone into Atlas unless Ironwood gives the OK, she has no idea what the Relic is or why they must get to Atlas to begin with, and they just attacked two of her men and stole an airship.

She was just doing her job: Dealing with the criminals and preventing them from getting to Atlas. Yes, she went full over the edge because "THE MIGHT OF ATLAS IS MIGHTY!", and she'll most likely be demoted for it, but she was doing what she was ordered at the base of things.

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So no, our heroes weren't Grey Wardens doing what they must, they just had a random thought and went with it without further thinking. While Cordovin was just being Lawful Stupid and excessive, but in the end not doing things for completely no reason.