Board Thread:Speculation House/@comment-24.247.91.107-20140511154823/@comment-24994749-20150225042623

the only time line we have for certain about the WF is that the leadership change that turned them into a violent group was 5 years before the start of the main events. Qhen the characters would have been 12.

I don't know if Sun's impression of the WF can be representative of everyone in general. It might only be representative of people from Vacuo/Mistral (I lean.more for Vacuo since it seems Sun only moved to Mistral when he started over at Haven.)