Talk:Lie Ren/@comment-65.95.202.70-20140808202258/@comment-17099359-20140816022512

That not really fair.First of all Jaune had only been training for a few weeks.The girls had been training for most of the lives.You can't expect him to be a bad as a in that little time.He did show improvement which is enough.

Secondly the entire was meant as a joke anyway it wasn't meant to be taken seriously.As far as plans go last about a few seconds before being jumpef by Yang's turkeyd.Let see you come up with a plan in just that little time

Regarding Ren yes his stamina seems to be the low of the cast.However he did losen the tail which was the whole reason why team JNPR was able to take out the Deathstakers take in the first place.As for the food fight.He was up against Yang.Possibly the strongest gighet in team RWBY (and possibly the whole cast).While I agree he should have lasted longer than he did the end result was expected.

Penny father is protective not controling which a lot of dads are when it comes to they daughters (which in this case is justified considering Penny is highly naive)

The only point I'll agree on (kind of) is Sun and Neptune. They were kind off shoehorned into this arc.