Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-94.8.221.186-20180402122306/@comment-26018514-20180407060916

BlizzardDragon wrote: ChishioKunrin wrote:... 2. Except that is just as dumb. In the time it took Jaune and Pyrrha to take the elevator out of the basement and get outside the tower, Cinder had already beaten Oz. How much time could she have bought?....

Wouldn't it have made more sense for Pyrrha to also try and call Glynda and not throw her life away? Or if she absolutely had to go try and stop Cinder, why not try long range fighting and then utilize hit and run tactics rather than fighting up close?...

5. Except that isn't really necessary. Ozpin and Oscar show that at worst Pyrrha would just hear Amber's voice in her head,... All the Personality Plot line did was open up a possibility only to make nothing of it than stall for time when other more sensible options could have been used.

8. Understandable, but it still seems like a Plot Line they could have closed up but chose to continue on more.

9. Even then though Neptune had virtually no presence.... It also doesn't justify his nor Sage and Scarlet's absence from Haven. Seriously, Volume 5 had the chance to have them show up, yet none of them did. You'd think at least one of them would live nearby or that Sun would call them for help taking down Adam and the WF, yet we didn't even see them!

2. Anytime was > no time. as for your second point, Pyrrha needed Jaune to be doing something other than getting in the way. As to your third, she was effectively fighting a god that could summon volcanoes on the highest point in the region by a large margin, there were no sniping vantage points or cover her opponent couldn't just nuke from orbit, by pressing Cinder in melee combat, Pyrrha kept Cinder from a considerable amount of escalation... not enough to save her, but still considerable.

An apt comparison would be if you were trying to burn an insect with a magnifying glass and rather than attempting to throw something it decided to sting/bite you because that is what it does best. the erratic movement would make it last longer.

5. Except

A. Ozpin doesn't seem to have shared any of that information with his group at large... we can only prove that Qrow knows all about his revival, and not even that he knew the finer details

and

B. The merge would have been different, for one thing, Amber wouldn't be "dead" if it succeeded, like Ozpin was, secondly she was no longer "whole", and memory transfer nor "fading" were guaranteed.

C. Implying death as the only consequence in a series where no-one has died(thus implied plot armor) makes it less suspenseful for the audience and less surprising when the character does in fact die.

8. Had they "resolved" it, they would have had a harder time calling back to it later without some random flashbacks later. Granted, I too would have preferred that they at least have a confrontational phone call where Weiss had asserted independence and Papa Schnee had been like "You brat, I'm on my way to the tournament right now and the moment I leave, you're coming with me", followed by a response that gets him to concede that maybe her friends or Ozpin won't allow it(as in that case Ozpin's death changed the situation).

Weiss's determination wasn't actually that strong as of V1-2... sure, she was enough of a brat to run off to beacon, but not independent enough to change her lifestyle or become self sufficient for cash, or leave without daddy's permission, it wasn't until V4 that she actually cut ties completely.

9. A. As Chishio said, he was cut out of V3 for time.

B. As for V5... Merry fucked up on that one... but tbf, I believe it was in part due to fan pressure. The battle of Haven should have been put off until V6 with all the set-up they squandered, but they really wanted to get straight to the action they were so excited to give us they promised it would be this volume after only one "set-up" volume they claimed V4 to be.