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ChishioKunrin wrote: 73.Anon.52 wrote: didn't she already say he was headed to the WF base in Mistral? I'm not sure what you're asking.

Yes, Salem told Hazel to meet with Sienna, but she said that in the first episode of the Volume.

Later, we finally see him again in the episode Kuroyuri, and he's in the Kingdom of Mistral.

However, we have no frame of reference for how much time passed between the League of Evil's meeting and Hazel crossing paths with Oscar.

I don't even trust the idea that Salem's meeting took place the night before Oscar did his farmwork and RNJR did their Geist mission, since the timeframe stuff throughout Volume 4 was messed up.

Examples

Remembrance:


 * Weiss walks through her house during daytime (Definitely daytime), has a conversation with Whitley, walks over to the door to Jacques' study. (Remember that the door to his study is directly to the right of the family painting)


 * Ruby wakes up from a nightmare early in the morning (Looks to be sunrise), then RNJR is walking along a path during the daytime (definitely full daytime), and they find Shion.


 * Weiss enters Jacques' office, blablablah. I'm certain it didn't take her the rest of the day and the entire night to walk those few steps over to the door and enter Jacques' study.


 * Ruby has another nightmare about Pyrrha and wakes up, and this time, it's the middle of the night, blablablah.

Tipping Point and Punished:


 * RNJR and Qrow vs Tyrian all took place during the day with overcast skies.


 * The Schnee charity ball takes place at night.


 * At the beginning of Punished, we visit Oscar, who is on a farm in the Kingdom of Mistral, according to Ozpin ("but I know you don't want to live the rest of your life as a farmhand in Mistral."), but... it's nighttime! (Note the star in the sky out his window) He's on the same continent as RNJR, but it's an entirely different time.


 * Can't say that it's a timezone thing, since Solitas isn't so far away from Anima that one would be in daytime while the other is in late nighttime. (Map)

A Much Needed Talk: Both Blake's and RNJR's scenes take place at night, but at the end of the episode, RNJR goes into morning, while Blake is still at night in the next episode. Menagerie isn't so far away from Anima that the timezones would be very different.

Two Steps Forward, Two Steps Back:


 * Yang and Weiss in daytime


 * Blake in nighttime


 * RNJR sometime in the day (uncertain if it's morning, noon, afternoon, whatever) with heavy overcast.

Kuroyuri: Oscar and RNJR's scenes could be occurring at the same time in this episode, considering that, in both scenes, it's daytime with heavy overcast in the skies. It's storming where Oscar is, and Nora and Ren hear thunder in the distance.

Taking Control:


 * Who even knows what time it is in Salem's domain. Is it perpetually night there?


 * Yang and Blake, daytime


 * Weiss, nighttime


 * RNJR, day with heavy overcast, appears to be due to stormclouds that have yet to drop their rain

No Safe Haven:


 * RNJR travels to the City of Mistral (really oddly quickly). You can actually see the edge of a storm system near the City of Mistral when they arrive, by the way. Here, the darker clouds in the upper left corner.


 * Yang, daytime. Got to Anima awfully quickly, when she literally just decided to leave Patch the previous episode.


 * Weiss, either sunrise or sunset, still in the airship she stowed away on. So... Yang got to Anima from Patch already, but Weiss still hasn't landed in the City of Mistral from Solitas?


 * Blake, not wholly certain, no view of the windows. Still in Menagerie, presumably getting packed and ready to leave.


 * Oscar, daytime, on a train to the City of Mistral. Wait, he was getting a ticket to that train two episodes ago...


 * Ilia, nighttime, in Menagerie.

So, basically, every individual storyline in Volume 4 was running on its own schedule/timeline without any frame of reference with the other storylines, which makes it hard to tell how much time passed between Hazel being told to meet with Sienna and Hazel crossing paths with Oscar. So, since that time frame is so far up in the air that it's basically Team Rocket blasting off, one possibility is that he could have already had time to meet with Sienna, find that Sienna isn't as willing to be a pawn as Adam is, and make the necessary reports to lead to Adam planning to take over the White Fang, as per Salem's wishes, resulting in the files in Ilia's Scroll detailing such a plan.

We don't even know whether Adam is on Anima during the events of Volume 4, but it's possible. , so it'd make sense for him to leave Vale. He could've even been told that Salem's next target is Haven. It's not flawless, but EruptionFang on Youtube came up with what I at least think is a plausible TimeFrame [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTEPts_at-U&list=LLb3fz677jO5bVET_ZxY2f5A&index=91 Did Volume 4 Happen OUT OF ORDER?!? (RWBY Theory) - EruptionFang]===Did Volume 4 Happen OUT OF ORDER?!? (RWBY Theory) - EruptionFang=== EruptionFang