User blog comment:SomeoneYouUsedToKnow/SYUTK's V5E11 - Being Weiss Is Suffering - Impressions/Recap/@comment-34633327-20180103231431/@comment-25936766-20180105033011

1) Are you fucking kidding me, I literally explained a reason for why Ozpin didn't activate it, if the machine had such a function: "because Cinder fired the arrow by surprise and it hit Amber before Ozpin even realized (thanks to Jaune being a blind genius)."

They only realized she was there after the arrow had already hit Amber, thanks to Jaune failing at the simple duty of watching the only entrace in the room. By then, it would've been useless.

2)  2>"The arrow being able to reform around obstacles means the bullets fired wouldn't pose a threat to it"

Assuming she could've done it back then. Which I already explained that it's debatable, not factual, no matter how much you want to keep acting like it is. Even then, just because they could reform it doesn't mean the bullets are useless. The shots would obviously be aimed at Cinder, not at the arrows.

And even if Cinder can block them, she needs to use a hand for that. Back in Volume 1 and 2, she needed to use a hand for that. Amber, for comparison, was able to block shots hands-free....with the Full Maiden powers, which Cinder didn't have. Cinder had half the powers, back in Vol.1-2.

Which means that she either dodges the shots, gets hit, or blocks them and makes herself an easier target for the other 3 badasses she would've been fighting against: Qrow, Glynda, and Ozpin.

And of course you're ignoring the idea I mentioned: Glynda pinning her to the ground with her Telekinesis. She can't block, let alone fight, if she can't even raise her hand.

2.5>I don't remember the BoB well enough to counter that, so I'll just concede the point here.

3>Nonononono. First of all, in the Amber fight, she only managed to make a dozen shards, and only after kicking up dust from the floor and then heating it up or whtv with Dust. That was all the glass things she did back then, her actual weapons were steel.

After getting half the powers, she never did anything like destroying her weapons and reforming them, not even the arrows. She was able to create the obsidian blades and combine them into a bow, but she never did anything like destroying and then reforming them.

So, again: Saying she could reform the arrows like she did with Pyrrha, before she got the Full-powers, is an hypothesis with no real evidence. It's not a fact, it's debatable at most. And thus should not be counted as a skill she could've used against Ozpin+Glynda+Qrow+Ironwood.

5>You are forgetting 3 facts: 1) Cinder had the Full-powers back when she killed Ozpin. Not Half the powers. 2) Ozpin outmached her in terms of Speed the entire fight. 3) It was Cinder vs Ozpin, not Cinder vs Ozpin+Ironwood+Qrow+Glynda.

As for the power source, there's the problem of the unknown; when she killed Amber, she didn't just kill her, Amber woke up and saw Cinder in her final moments.

Now, what if she destroyed the power source and Amber just....died there, unable to wake up or anything. What happens then? Does Cinder get the powers? Or not? Their situation was already "anormal", it was better to not test her chances.