Board Thread:Speculation House/@comment-14138255-20160103163552/@comment-26872876-20160105011805

KNN005 wrote: WC-83 wrote:

@KNN005, Adam is no more redeemable than the others. The only reason he didn't join them was because it was a Human cause, not a Faunus one. He's not a gun for hire, but he doesn't seem to have any other scruples. Adam still feels something other than "kill everyone and anyone for power". He does evil to help his people. He's bad but Cinder and Merc seems to be evil. And Emerald seems to be one of those types that will ignore evil deeds out of fierce loyalty. Like a secretary who knows her boss steals from the company but because he hired her, she looks the other way.

@ Cyrania de Bergerac:

I understand, I do. I get being loyal and grateful. But why throw away your morals just because of loyalty. Wouldn't a real friend want to tell a friend when they were going over the deep end? You're not friends if they hit you rather than hear you out. You're just a slave or a tool. If that a life? Did they really save you? Or did they pick you up so they can use you?

I'm having trouble place that line when Emerald says they don't need Merc and gets slapped. Is that a regular thing? What does Emerald think about that? What does Merc for that matter. They're sorta friends right, at least now. So is he okay with Em being slapped? Would he be okay with Cinder slapping him around? Torch is afraid of Cinder cause she has a piece of the Fall power. But even he doesn't get slapped around. As of now, Adam is basically no different. Sure he has a goal, but that involves protecting Faunus and basically murdering regular humans. The only way he has a shot at changing is if he sees a fault in the White Fang's leader. The only way I can see that is if the leader intentionally orders White Fang members to kill civilian Faunus behind Adam's back, and then Adam sees humans defending those Faunus. Otherwise, he's pretty much a racist who buys into his organization.

I think Mercury is closer to Torchwick evil than Cinder evil. Cinder is working for someone who seemingly aims to destroy humanity. Torchwick works for profit and power. Mercury asked what was in it for him during the chapter. So to me, it seems like he could ultimately turn out as a mercenary or working with Torchwick. Not redeemable as going good, but I don't think he's pure evil. Especially with the fact he seemingly killed his drunk dad in self defense.

As for the slap, I don't think it's a normal thing. Emerald was simply directly complaining on Cinder's choice and she didn't like it. Regardless, Mercury and her have never seemed close. They are usually arguing, but they seem to work together well when they need to. I could see them as a love-hate friendship, but so far nothing suggests they really even like one another.

On a separate topic, do we think Neo works for Cinder or Torchwick? Her introduction came with Roman's call, and she was on the train with him. She also wasn't in the Cinder flashback. Thoughts?