Board Thread:Episode Discussion/@comment-4141313-20181215021300/@comment-4141313-20181225003756

SomeoneYouUsedToKnow wrote:

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4) I've heard some people say she's racist against Faunus

On a side note, regarding Cordovin's "Friends of questionable character" comment

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9) 1) & 2) I know humor is subjective and all, but I found the guards just as annoying as Cordovin. Seriously, when Yang asked if they had to keep backing her up, I thought that was the writers saying they were supposed to come across as annoying.

3) Considering Qrow looks like a drunk and the only thing capable of implying he was a huntsmen is his license and Harbinger, neither of which he had visible, I think its understandable if he comes across as just some random drunk. Plus, you're expecting rationality from this overzealous nationalistic bitch.

4) Why not Split the difference and say she was referring to both, considering they were both shown and both reacted. I mean, this is Merry. If they want to imply something, they'll slap you across the face with it rather than go for subtlety. So implication is racism, then its racism.

5) You thought Jaune, Jaune, would be rational in this situation and punch a pillow. And considering RWBY and Oscar were trying to tell them it wasn't pointless, I don't think they were as bad as you're suggesting.

6) Okay I will, Jedi are a pacifistic order bordering on a cult that abhor emotions and focus on devoting themselves to a single cause and any leeway is considered blasphamous. SEW's are protectors whose power is specifically derived from emotion and are free to persue whatever life they desire, they just often go for Grimm Slayers.

Force is extremely versatile, ranging from telepathy, blocking attacks, enhanced reflexes, communicating with wildlife, mind manipulation, identifying weakpoints, appearing as ghosts, etc. Silver Eyes are extremely limited in that they only kill, blind, or petrify Grimm.

7) Not every Semblance can be flashy or spectacular, and even if its boring, its not any less useful. Plus, at least she has one compared to most of the cast. We still don't know any of the Villains Semblances sans Emerald, Hazel, Neo, and Adam, nor do we know Tai's, SSN's, Port's, Oobleck's, Ironwood's, Ilia's, Ghira's, Kali's, and we only just learned Ren's in Volume 4 and Jaune's in Volume 5. Checking out the Semblance page and comparing it to the Character Page, surprisingly little characters have their semblances revealed.

On the plus side, we should be getting Mercury's soon, seeing as when asked about it on RWBYRW, Miles said it was a spoiler.

8) I refer to the Dadpin theory.

Phantomlink959 wrote:

Something Chish noticed, and I wasn't entirely sold on, was that Ruby, Maria, and Dadpin's kids all have these little = signs in their eyes.

Ozpin was gifted immortality via reincarnation by the God of Light. It's possible that his particular strain of immortality passes a little bit of that blessing on to children he has with normal humans.

Also, "You bring outside cashews on ONE flight, and suddenly you're placed on the additional screening list for life!" is possibly the best line in the series thus far.

9) I refer to my post about Oscar running away.

"I honestly don't think he ran away from dealing with all this, seeing as he himself told Hazel he chose to be Huntsman, and I doubt that would change from being falsely blamed. I think he ran off because he saw the others were pissed at Ozpin and his presence wasn't helping matters. So he ran off thinking it would be better for them.

Even in the end, he's putting others before himself. Seems Ruby wasn't the only smaller, more honest soul in the group."

Plus, you're generalizing hard right now. No one has treated Oscar like Shit outside of Qrow and Jaune, as everyone was still nice to him both at, and after leaving, Brunswick Farms. Only Qrow, the emotionally unstable drunk, dismissed him after punching Ozpin.

Plus, Weiss tried to get Jaune to not attack Oscar, Yang yelled at him, and Ruby yelled at him. They don't blame Oscar, they blame Ozpin.

And even Jaune seemed to regret what he did to Oscar after Ruby yelled at him. Notice his facial expressions. And again when he learns Oscar ran off. And spoiler alert, but the RWBYRW from last week shows JNR all going out to look for him accomponied by Sapphron, and Jaune lamenting he went too far.

And they don't treat Ozpin like shit/the devil for what he did, they treat him as untrustworthy because he still keeps them in the dark despite all his talk of trust, making it appear as him having little faith in them, culminating in him hiding the fact Salem is unkillable making it seem like he's leading them to their deaths. Combine with the fact JNR just learned this and RWBY + QOM only learned this three days ago and had little time to process it, their reactions are to be expected.

I refer to this comment of mine on Ozpin's page for evidence of why what he did may have been good intentioned, but ultimately was self-defeating. https://rwby.wikia.com/wiki/Ozpin#comm-599393 And this one on this very thread.

The Another One wrote: I'm getting real tired of having to explain this.

The trust thing is also Oz's own fault, as they wouldn't distrust him if he didn't give them a reason to distrust him. Constantly keeping secrets out of fear they'd betray him is what caused them to betray him. It's a cycle that feeds into itself. Had he been more open about it but tried to sound more optimistic about it, such as saying he's needs their help to defend the things they care about and protect their home, rather than just think they're incapable of handling it, it shows he has little faith in them to accept the truth. His trust issues are partially his own fault.

And no, they aren't antagonizing either of them. RWBY+Q reacted angrily after learning, but the only one to attack him was Qrow, and he was and still is an emotionally unstable wreck, making it understandable why he'd do it. After Oz left, they didn't go after Oscar for what he did, in fact they still stuck with him. Even when JN_R found out, only Jaune lashed out, only because his paranoia made him think it wasn't really Oscar, but just Oz pretending to be Oscar, and even then, he looked remorseful for what he did when he saw Oscar was terrified, and definitely looked like he realized his fuck ups after learning Oscar ran off.

And about the not defending Oscar thing, that is entirely wrong. Weiss tried to get in Jaune's way at first, Yang yelled at him too, and Blake, Nora, and Ren were understandably unnerved by Jaune's actions. Had Ruby not stopped him, they probably would have stepped in. As for the console part.... None of them really know Oscar. They only knew him as Ozpin's host, and know little about him, just like we, the viewers do. They have too little of a bond with him. They have some bond, but not as big a bond with Jaune. They've known Jaune for over a year, RN_R knows he's an emotional wreck, and they'd understandably be worried about him. Yeah, they could have asked Oscar if he was okay, but who would you be more concerned with at the moment? The friend you've known already and watched break down, or the farmer kid you met about a month ago and barely know? And you are making heavy assumptions on Ruby and the other's mindsets, when you don't even need too. Ren said it himself, they need time to think and process this. Remember, it's only been three days since RWBY+QO learned about Ozma, and they had to deal with Brunswick on top of that and deal with a dead end. It's doubtful they'd process everything in that time.

As for the giving up, I refer you to my statement above.

"It gets even worse with the number of people who are calling the heroes cowards for feeling despair at the idea that Salem is unkillable, and that they have no right to give up since the job of signing up, being a huntsman, had no foreseeable end to it and they wouldn't have given up then.

''Except they fail to realize with the Grimm they can at least cull them and make them manageable, but with Salem, a woman who assumedly can't be stopped and can cause catastrophes such as the fall of Beacon, they would not be able to manage her. So of course they'd be depressed.''

It's almost like they get angry at the characters for having actually realistic responses."

Cause seriously, I would love to hear how many people here would realistically want to keep fighting after learning their life purpose is all but meaningless or impossible. And don't give me any optimistic bluster, I'm talking about realistically, emotions running high, fear and panic filling your system. More people would be like WBY+JNR+QO than they'd be like Ruby and Maria.