Board Thread:Speculation House/@comment-4141313-20181128141152/@comment-26018514-20181128185137

BlizzardDragon wrote: So, right now with the revelation that Ozma and Salem had children together, everyone was quick to jump onto the idea that the four of them died during Ozma and Salem's clash. Others were just as quick to jump onto the idea that they survived, as we never saw their bodies and the closest we got to any confirmation of their fates was that sight of the plush dog turning to ash...

I'll be talking about the latter idea, that at least one of the daughters survived.

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The Original Maidens

As a way to both validate the World of Remnant short but also keep the idea of the Maiden's being relatives of Ozma, some like to theorize that the four sisters that helped Ozma as the Wizard were the descendents of his daughters, if not his daughters outright, and that is why he made them the maidens rather than just randomly making four kind girls into demigods.

Well, to start off, I'm outright debunking the idea of them being the daughters themselves. To start with, regardless of the validity of the WOR, it doesn't fit the timeline of Ozma's incarnations. Ozma's incarnation after the False God was shown to be a hermit struggling to move on, followed by a drunkard drinking more than Qrow does. The WOR has the Wizard be moved by the Sisters acts of kindness before he embued them with his powers. Considering by time Ozma became the settler, he had started to pull his life together, only for it to fall apart when he became the Inquisitor and he talked to Jinn. So, assumedly, the role of the Wizard came after the Inquisitor, at which point, his daughters would have long died from old age.

So, what about them being the descendents of one of the daughters? While possible, it doesn't really justify Ozma giving them the powers, as how would he reasonably be able to discern they were his daughters' descendents after meeting them. Instinctually? In addition, why didn't they already have access to magic, seeing as the eldest daughter was able to use magic, why wouldn't they? More than likely the sisters simply reminded him of his daughters, but weren't actually related to him.

Any other thoughts you guys might have? I feel you are misrepresenting this theory.


 * I have never seen this theory tied to any implication the girls "survived"... they didn't need to, they only needed to inherit a form of his reincarnation curse in which their powers(if not their souls) "reincarnated"


 * He would have recognized their reincarnations when he saw them, same way he and Salem recognized each other in his first reincarnation.


 * He didn't need to "give them powers" later... they were born with them, and at the moment of birth they were "created" by HIM, and Salem, but it's a myth we were told about by others... and he wouldn't have shared that they were hell spawn much as he failed to share his own former allegiance to Salem.


 * look at what he told us of the maidens: Hermit in the woods, now look at the house he lived in with Salem... she wasn't exactly a neighborly sort, she was descried as a witch and left alone in a forest. If we look at the myth as "sanitized" of Salem's involvement(which we know to a degree it was, as even if they weren't related to his daughters they were created in the middle of Oz/Salem's story), it fits perfectly.

I'm still not convinced your assertion is wrong that it likely was a later incarnation, but there is nothing about this theory that is possible to so easily dismiss out of hand.