Talk:Vale (kingdom)/@comment-108.237.225.76-20150903052325/@comment-24891101-20150903053219

Mountain Glenn was an expansion of the city. Lots of territory around Vale is nominally theirs, and they are the government of many, many transient villages, but it's very difficult for them to project power very far.

It's like Athens, in a sense. But I'm not sure you understand how big Vale is. I'll trot this out again. Vale is massive.