Board Thread:Episode Discussion/@comment-34633327-20180120015359/@comment-2001:8A0:D227:D701:59B:6C69:8D4D:E259-20180123114947

Raven is still useless to them now that they have the relic though.I mean, she's powerful, but so what? If she doesn't want to fight for you, she won't and there's no way they can force her. Also, if they think maidens are so powerful, then they have 2 already, why not use them? Most importantly, if they really care all that much about using people who are actually strong, why are their only allies kids?

Not to mention, they wouldn't even have that if Ruby hadn't decided to take Qrow's hints. If she had decided that Yang needed her more and Mistral could wait (which is perfectly reasonable), then the only two there would be Qrow and Oscar, and the former wouldn't even know about the latter until he was already in Mistral.

Also why would Raven reveal to Tai she's the Spring Maiden? And would he turn her in? Are there really any consequences if he does? Why would they go after Raven? They know she doesn't the relic and like I said, it can't be about the strength thing because she won't fight for them if she doesn't want to. If they kill her, (that implies they have a power to do such, which I doubt), there's no guarantee they'll get the power, and whoever got it would be a novice.