Board Thread:Episode Discussion/@comment-34633327-20180120015359/@comment-2001:8A0:D23A:9E01:201D:DE3D:91BE:D62F-20180121021459

KingFubuki92 wrote:

A) They were too damn hard to find. They lost track of Spring over a decade ago and hadn't even realized she was dead. I think they only knew about Amber by chance.

B) They were trying to keep up the facade of Peace. Having four young women show up at the academies but not take part in the curriculum would raise a few eyebrows.

1) Her power would be useful in the fight against Salem.

2) She'd be too risky to leave running around with the power of Maiden, seeing as Qrow notes a lot of Shion Village's destruction was from the Spring Maiden, and would need to take care of her lest they risk a maverick maiden.

In the end, Raven would still be a tool to Ozpin's side. Either a Weapon of War, or a potentially Dangerous Weapon that needs to be stopped.

You can't even call Haven the heroes victory. The only reason they "won" was because of:

A) Blake's intervention with the Menagerie Militia, which they had no idea about, and also her alerting the Mistralian Police Department.

B) Hazel and Mercury deciding to cut and run after Emerald's illusion rather than just kill them all while they were distracted.

C) Raven managing to take care of Cinder.

D) Raven letting Yang take the Relic.

E) Leo running away like a Coward instead of continuing the fight.

F) Jaune managing to unlock his Semblance, which in turn recharged Weiss, which in turn temporarily put them on even footing with Hazel, but even then Hazel crushed the Lancer Queen.

Ozpin's forces didn't really win. The enemy just lost. Had Blake not arrived in time, or had Raven not let Yang take the relic, or had Hazel and Mercury chosen to fire on the paralyzed with fear heroes, then Ozpin's forces would be dead. Every single factor to their victory was based on luck/unpredicatable variables. They didn't really win. They aren't strong enough to face Salem. Pretty sure they keep track of the Maidens. Also, they don't have to be protected by students. In fact, it's stupid that students carry such a huge burden. And bodyguards exist in RWBY.

Pretty sure they cannot force someone to fight with them. I'm even more sure they couldn't force Raven. If they killed (which none of them are capable of except Ozpin), they would risk the power going to someone random.

" The only reason they "won" was because of:

A) Blake's intervention with the Menagerie Militia, which they had no idea about, and also her alerting the Mistralian Police Department."

 Yes, I have  repeatedly  complained about the heroes being stupid and only winning because of someone else.

 Also, if Mercury and Hazel attacked, the person would have probably defended and no way they would be able to kill all of them either way. Retreat was the smartest choice - they lost, they might as well try not to get themselves killed. Not to mention, the was an army outside with Sun and Blake's parents which probably would appear if they started killing off the heroes.

 As for Leo, he was the weakest one. And to make matters worse, he didn't actually want to be there and was only there because he feared Salem. Fighting without will usually not a good idea