Talk:Cinder Fall/@comment-208.87.233.180-20150222043710/@comment-208.87.233.180-20150223005343

What if Cinder IS Summer?

I definitely don't know all the canon, but nothing I've seen has said that it couldn't be her. We don't really know Cinder's age, so what if she's just pretending to be young because it's the simplest way to infiltrate Beacon? It would explain the fact that Ruby seems to recognize her but can't figure out where from, as well as the connection between her and Ruby's last names. And if summer is really hot, and a cinder is just a flame that's lost almost all its fuel (you could say the flame has fallen), then Cinder could just be Summer after she's fallen. For what reason, I don't know, but we know so little about Summer aside from that she's Ruby's mother and that she disappeared on a hunt.

I admit it's kind of a stretch, but the lyrics in I Burn say "a flame that's burning hotter than the sun in the middle of July" which is something I thought was weird because a) the sun doesn't burn hotter in one season more than any other, though they could have meant how you feel it locally, but if they did then b) the heat you feel from the sun in the summer is still only enough to give you a sunburn, whereas an actual flame is hot enough to burn skin from bone, so the comparison is kind of hollow. (Though I'll admit that the song is about Yang, so any insight we gain would be more about the frame of reference of the lyricists than anything they intentionally put in)