Board Thread:Episode Discussion/@comment-27234079-20191221163921/@comment-4010415-20191222034817

This episode made me sad. It wasn't necessarily a sad episode, but it made me sad. Going back through it again with subtitles to type up my reaction.

Okay, deep breath...

HOVER LIMOS!!!

"Sir, with all due respect, you'd have to pay me (to smile)." Got a laugh out of me, and looks like it got a smile out of Ironwood. She really is a light in his life, isn't she?

As soon as Weiss asked where Klein is, I was like "He was fired..." Yep. Jacques really is petty and vindictive. Also, shut up, Whitley. I feel bad for you, but still, shut up, Whitley.

Qrow, Clover, stop flirting.

I knew the fancy overweight lady was going to be significant, but I didn't think her significance was going to be... what it was.

Harriet: Don't break anything--

me: Or you'll have to work for a host club.

I've gotta say, Whitley has the smug smile perfected.

Of course the painting in the back of the dining room is only of Jacques, Whitley, and Willow. Also, I had been so distracted by that painting and the armor painting of possibly Nicolas that I didn't notice Robyn at first.

Also, I really like the icicle design on the chandeliers throughout the mansion. Beautiful.

I love the heist visual editing, with the sectioned off screen showing different things, like in a classy heist movie. It's perfect and adds a great flare to JNR's sabotage scene.

Oh, wow, without the subtitles on, you actually miss a portion of Whitley's line. He says "Of course, once I'm old enough to drive, the company has promised me my own parking space." The audio completely cut out the "Of course, once I'm old enough to d" part. I can't tell if he just wants to rub his heir status in Weiss' face or if he literally just needs someone to talk to and chose to take Weiss hostage so he could ramble as much as he wanted.

Wait, did Nora have a whole-ass stew at the top of her hors d'ouevres? (Had to check the subtitles to know how to spell that. French is confusing.)


 * 1) I would be upset if I was that woman, too. Just came out to have a nice time at a party in my favorite dress, and boom, soup all over me. Night ruined.
 * 2) Whitley doesn't look half bad with purple hair.

We've got
 * A portrait of Jacques and Weiss
 * A pair of portraits of younger Jacques and Willow, presumably part of their marriage celebration, considering the veil Willow is wearing
 * A portrait of Whitley playing piano
 * A portrait of a man in armor, presumably Nicolas
 * Paintings of cityscapes and Dust mining facilities
 * A painting of... a fountain with a winged staff-wielding woman atop it?

"I should've just stayed in line." I mean, in that particular moment, yes, but I feel like part of what Winter is saying is actually coming from the mindset of her victimhood from how Jacques raised her. She referred to her outburst as her sounding "like a petulent child". She didn't sound like a child at all. She sounded like an adult speaking the truth to someone who has put her through a lot, and what she said was true. It's just that she grew up in a household where her giving her opinion or speaking from her heart in such a way was met with being told that she was being a petulent brat simply because Jacques didn't want to hear any of that. Judging by what we've seen of him, he likely wanted her to just keep quiet about her thoughts and opinions, stay "in line", and do as he wanted her to.

Willow: What... are you doing in your father's office?

me: What're you doing in his office?

No, seriously.

I haven't read the thread yet, so I dunno how many people caught that Willow is drinking vodka straight from the bottle, not wine. It caught my eye because, in Sparks, we saw a poster for Six Swans in the bar, and I had tried to view every detail in the poster and worked out that it's a brand of vodka. I double checked Willow's bottle in this episode, and she has indeed graduated from wine to hard liquor.

Weiss and Willow talking about the cameras was, like.. holy shit. And then Willow being glad that Weiss isn't coming back to live there and then shedding a tear made me tear up. Then, Willow telling Weiss not to forget about Whitley and that Whitley hates Weiss because she left him alone with their parents made me even sadder, dude. I shed a couple tears.

Weiss: Who are you?

.*Thunder crackling, Watts standing on a rooftop in the rain*

me: Batman, apparently.

Also, we never once questioned how it was raining in Mantle, in the tundra. I KNEW those outdoor heating systems in Argus and Mantle were designed to keep the cities warm enough to live in! It's not like this is a super crazy revelation or anything, but I have had to argue about it before.

Eyyy, I just noticed Drinking Buddy is out of jail and back to drinking with Drunk Mann.