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TOSHIKI OVERLORD wrote: Raven vs Cinder: The battle was good, but it shows that it was made as a Fansercive for the CINDER HATERS. Your comment gives me the reason to want to see her again just to see Cinder suffer. Raven seemed to have Plot Armor and be a Mary Sue in the fight. For those who say "Raven won and humiliated Cinder because he had more experience". I can disprove that argument by mentioning other fights where one of the opponents had more experience and it did not look like a Mary Sue / Gary Stue in the battle with the Plot Armor.

Cinder Fall: I have said it in several pages and I repeat it here. Cinder is hated for stupidity. It is one of the best characters in the series, not to say the best. Especially if it is compared with the protagonists who are empty (Yang and Weiss being the exception to this). If I was sad when Penny and Pyrrha died but THE DEATH OF YOUR FAVORITE CHARACTER IS NOT EXCUSE TO HATE A CHARACTER You can hate it at the beginning, but there comes a time when that hatred is unjustified.

I passed the same with Obito Uchiha when I killed Konan in Naruto. I hated Obito in a similar way to how many hate Cinder, but after a while I gave up that hatred and saw Obito as he really was. A well-developed character with a great evolution. And I say it like that. What Cinder is doing in RWBY, iconic villains have done as Sephiroth Final Fantasy VII.

You know, Sephiroth killed Aeris causing commotion in the FFVII Fandom (Like Pyrrha's death in RWBY) he wanted to have power and did not mind destroying the world to get it. Now I do not see anyone hate Sephiroth for that. Even some Cinder Haters are hypocritical in that sense.

And no, I do not hate Sephiroth. It's one of my favorite characters from the whole Final Fantasy saga.

No, YOU hate her for stupidity. While I do believe there are others who share your opinion, the entire fandom surely won’t. Oh and another thing: there are people who DO see hating Cinder for killing Penny & Pyrrha as an excuse. Unjustified or not.