Talk:Raven Branwen/@comment-1446360-20180430045122/@comment-24018437-20180430154445

She WAS putting on a facade. That speech, unpleasant as YOU may think it was, was exactly what Raven NEEDED to hear. She was in over head, had done terrible things and hadn't thought out the plan all that well to be honest. If Yang hadn't given Raven that speech, two things would have happened.

1: Raven would have gotten the Relic, and we can all agree that ISN'T a good thing. Heck, there isn't even a garantuee she would have escaped with the Relic. Her Aura was diminished, the enemy was right outside and they now knew where the Relic was hidden. She had to fight her way through Salem's henchmen and RWBY and compagny. The Relic could have ended up with anyone.

2: Raven somehow magicacly changed her mind and instantly became a better person and gave Yang the Relic out of the kindness of her heart. Which wouldn't make sense and is just plain stupid. While Raven FINALLY showed regret at everything she had done after Yang's speech, she also made it clear that her fear of Salem is a big part of the reason why she allowed Yang to take the Relic.

This scene showed that Raven wasn't the cold-hearted bitch that everyone thought she was. That she still did care for Yang deep down. In order to build something up, it must be broken first. Raven had build walls around herself, and if she truly wants to change, then those walls need to be teared down. And Yang was the one who did that. In order for Raven to change for the better, she needs to realize and regret all the bad things she has done. And we all know that she wasn't gonna do that on her own.

You keep saying Raven will be the one to guide Yang and Ruby. But they already have Qrow for that. If anything, its more likely that they'll be guiding RAVEN.

Also, again, you really aren't doing yourself, Raven or Raven fans any favors with your childish arguments and rants. If anything, this makes people dislike Raven even more. You aren't convincing anyone Raven is a misunderstood anti-hero, you're just annoying people and adding fuel to the bonfire that is the Raven-hate. People tend to dislike certain characters even more if their fans are annoying, because they associate that character with all the irritation they received from fans. So really, you're making your beloved 'Mother Bird' look even worse.