Talk:James Ironwood/@comment-4010415-20200215031359/@comment-25936766-20200219212558

If you want to discuss ethics, why not discuss our heroes stealing an airship, killing at least 1 guy, or lying to Ironwood and helping his enemy behind his back without even telling him, which is part of the reasons behind the current mess.

Ethics doesn't matter there. Either Atlas lived and Mantle died, or everyone dies everywhere, and no one ever bothered to present any better ideas. Not much room for playing nice when everyone could die, and if he took the "ethical" route like RWBY wanted, everyone would die because, Grimm or no, Salem can't be killed.

And RWBY's also done it before. They stole an airship because if they stayed, Argus would be attacked by Grimm, and no one gave any better ideas. BY killed Adam because it was a desperate situation and he would've killed them if they didn't. Ironwood's case is just bigger scale, against someone they can't just beat and call it a day.