User blog comment:Zathronas/Speculative author, Volume 3: Cinder Fall/@comment-186.45.68.166-20141203095832/@comment-17099359-20141204234823

At first that may seem true.But that doesn't hold up when you examine it closely.

While killing tukson did show how ruthless they are saying that there a threat because of that is like saying that a MMA fighter is a threat to the world champion because he beat up some dude of the street.

Stomping Grimm it this point isn't anything to boost about.Considering we have seen team RWBY do that multiple times already.

The only thing that hints them being a match for team RWBY is the Pyyrha vs Mercury match.

Regarding Cinder.She managed to hold her hold against a full felted hunterness.That's impressive. Considering the age difference between the two.Plus the whole point of the fight was to escape.If she actually fought Gylha.The result may have been different.