Board Thread:Speculation House/@comment-27404492-20170511131216/@comment-25936766-20170605020034

Nikoli the rebel wrote:

Sir Thomas even stated that Athiests were universally hated in "Utopia". Strange indeed.

@ Someone, I copy/pasted your comment into microsoft word and it is 903 words long, a short essay. :O I'm not reading that. You win. :) Sir Thomas's "Utopia" sounds conspicuously like.......Heaven. Heaven as it would be in Shin Megami Tensei. Seriously, it's uncanny.

The "forced labor and slavery" is practically what happens in the least positive (read: Most) Law endings in those games (The Law Alignment mainly including Angels and God): Humanity is practically enslaved by the angels and/or brainwashed into adoring God over anything else. The result is a world of absolute order and peace, but things like "freedom" or even "opinion" are pretty much void.

The idea of a "cashless, propertyless society" fits too; the only thing that matters is adoring God, everything else is meaningless as far as he's concerned. Money, belongings, these things don't matter.

And even the idea of "Social Hierarchy", from the angels's PoV, since they are divided in Ranks/Classes/Orders, at least in Judaism, themselves distributed among 3 hierarchies, spheres or triads. From 1 to 9, those are:

First:

1-Seraphim: The highest order, the beings closest to God. Their name means "Burning Ones". They have 4 heads and 6 wings, and are constantly burning with the love of God. Lucifer was a Seraphim, with 12 wings, before his Fall.

2-Cherubim: Not as much is known about them, though some think they were beings higher than angels. The prophet Ezekiel describes them as a "tetrad of creatures", with 4 faces: Of a lion, an ox, an eagle, and a man. They have the size and hands of a man, feet of a calf, 4 eye-covered wings. Two of said wings extend upward, sustaining the Throne of God, while the other 2 covered the creatures below.

3-Thrones: Angels of Knowledge, also known as Ophanim or Erelim, mentioned in Colossians 1:16 of the New Testament. Symbols of God's justice and authority, though also remarkably humble, they emanate His light with mirror-like goodness and are the closest to spiritual perfection. Described in Ezekiel 1:15 as looking like an eye-covered wheel instead of anything humanoid.

Second:

4-Dominion: The first of the Middle angels, they spread God's word throughout the universe and oversee other angels. They are said to receive orders from the Cherubims.

5-Virtue: They have no physical bodies, but manifest in the form of miracles. They bestow favor and courage among those who fight for a noble goal or in the name of good. It's said 2 of them appeared during Jesus's Ascension.

6-Power: Also called Authorities, said to be the first order to be created. Bearers of conscience and keepers of history, academically driven and concerned with religion, ideology, theology and philosophy. Warrior Angels designed to be completely loyal to God, to the extent it's said none has ever fallen from grace, though some believe Satan, the Opposer/Accuser, was one before his Fall. Their duty is to oversee distribution of power among humanity.

Third: 

7-Principality: They protect cities and nations, watch over them. They have an orthodox moral view and are the most easily corrupted, but can create harmony among between those in conflict.

8-Archangels: The ministers and messengers between God and humanity, they contact those in the material plane directly, and are the main, primary warrior race among the angels. Basically, God's main army.

9-Angels. They act as messengers, and are each assigned to a specific person, and watch over them. They are the most similar to humans in appearance.

Leaving aside "Special" angels like Lailah and the Trumpeters.

.....So, overall....too many similarities. All that's left is a fanatic Christian cult.

Wait, which comment?

PS: 903 words would be long if it was a wall or sets of walls. When not, then it's just a long comment, but bearable.