Board Thread:Speculation House/@comment-27143816-20160216033644/@comment-14909251-20160609202114

Phantomlink959 wrote: Maiden powers transfer the moment of death, as soon as Amber died the power would transfer, what possible reason would they have to resuscitate her at that point?

Answer; they wouldn't. the machine was designed to prolong life, not restore it, since as soon as she died they would have lost the powers anyways.

Leaving aside the basic humanitarian reasons for trying to resuscitate someone, they would want to leave as little to chance as possible. If the Maiden powers are not transferred instantaneously as the scene where Cinder gets them would seem to suggest then reviving someone could theoretically cause the powers to return if they haven't yet found their successor.

SomeoneYouUsedToKnow wrote:

Just wondering...was Amber really a Huntress? She could've just been a civilian who could defend herself with the Maiden powers.

I mean, just because anyone can get a gun and fire it, it doesn't mean everyone's a soldier.

Honestly, would it really make a difference? She clearly exhibited combat experience or training in that flashback episode. The point is that she has some training or experience with danger and conflict so the suggestion that she wouldn't be able to adjust to waking up in a combat zone is silly.

Arkantos95 wrote: Are you serious? They literally, explicitly, and in no uncertain terms, said that the function of the machine is to transfer Aura from one person to another. There's no other way to interpret that unless you're just that desperate to cling to whatever belief you have on the subject.

This isn't an assumption or speculation on my part, it's stated canon.

Ironwood said in the direct quote of the episode's transcripts that they can't give her the powers direclty, but they can give her what they are attached to: her Aura. The physical manifestation of the soul, which was absorbed by Cinder.

All of the things that need to occur seemed pretty goddamn convenient to me, especially since at least one of them requires the soul acting in a way that is completely unprecedented anywhere in the show. Why wouldn't Amber's soul just die with Pyrrha, or better yet, go seek out the person who actually has most of the rest of it? Since, you know, Cinder took her Aura with the Maiden powers judging by the coloration of the energy ball that she absorbed when she killed Amber. Where you can also see said aura being drained form Pyrrha.

This is a perfect example of why I am criticizing your behavior. I cast doubt on your speculation that Cinder absorbed Amber's Aura and you immediately start attacking me and claiming that your speculation is simply the truth without any basis. You provided a clip that is actually more consistent with what I was stating. The coloring we see during the transfer is the same coloring Cinder exhibits while using the Maiden powers.

We the audience are supposed to understand that the Maiden powers are being transferred initially from Amber to Pyrrha and then from Amber to Cinder so the common coloring of all suggests that's the purpose of the coloring, not to imply Amber's Aura was transferred to Cinder. No grounds exists whatsoever to suggest Cinder would absorb Amber's Aura upon getting the Maiden powers. You are just saying your speculation is better.

The only way we've seen people arriving at Beacon is by air to docking points located on a sheer cliff face. The fact that this was also the way everyone was being evacuated during the Battle of Beacon also suggests that it's the only viable method of leaving the grounds, and since Roman's map isn't 3D, it's not really a good argument against that point.

We do see that Beacon is situated at the edge of a bay on a cliff face with forest and mountains around it. No means of vehicular travel seems viable other than air travel and, potentially, sea travel. Pictures of the cliff seem to indicate that there is some means of going down the cliff to a water port. More importantly, though, the lack of obvious roads or rail lines suggests the only other option is to walk across land, hence why they would all be getting to and from Beacon by air.

And yes, there would be conflict outiside of a convenient avoidance because if so much as one Grimm spots her it's going to alert every other one in the area by bellowing and charging her based on their behavior throughout the show.

Again, your arrogance is astounding. You don't even allow the slightest possibility of you being wrong about something you have zero way of knowing for certain. I mean, you're acting like this is some open plain where all the Grimm are mind-linked with homing abilities and teleportation.

What you rely on is some notion that a skilled soldier, huntress, or whatever, is going to be incapable of killing a Grimm in time to avoid other Grimm who might rush towards any sounds that may be made and that said soldier, huntress, or whatever, is incapable of getting away from a Grimm if seen. There are so many things you have to simply discount or ignore in order for your absolutist presumptions to be passable, yet you talk as if it is divine insight.