Board Thread:Episode Discussion/@comment-34633327-20171216025048/@comment-26018514-20171221014127

Arkantos95 wrote: Universegamingx wrote: Arkantos95 wrote: 73.Anon.52 wrote: ChishioKunrin wrote: and before that she still gave the ultimatum that she would tell her nothing if she didn't stay, That is not an ultimatum, that's a choice between two sources of infofmation. trust ozpin more than raven cause raven is a coward that's in denial, while ozpin may not tell you everything atleast he's trying to stop salem while raven just bitched out and ran He's a manipulative douchebag and the living personification of failure. That's just your interpretation, Raven has nothing pointing to her being a reliable source in this conversation... at all, the only trust she has been extended by anyone thusfar is Qrow(her brother who still doesn't trust her) and Ozpin, who tbh still appears to be willing to trust her, and the only thing she really told them they didn't know was stuff they didn't need to know, and her ability to transform, which is both her secret to keep & her brother's, Ozpin would have had no right to tell anyone about it beforehand, so telling her that she can hear Raven's interpretation and Raven's interpretation alone, or that she can hear Ozpin's, isn't just an ultimatum, that's brainwashing shit right there.

Say what you want about Ozpin, he has never denied the use of others information, he just doesn't know of any other reliable sources, the only other source who would maybe know would be Salem, and even her minions aren't always drinking her cool-aid except for Tyrian(see's her as a goddess) and maybe Cinder(see's her as a means to power).