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Weak terms variates from abilities. Yep, he was able to survive Weiss and Ruby but outside of defensive skills, he's pretty slow and was used against his own teammates two times. Plus he was pretty stupid by giving away his position and losing a chance to incapacitate Ruby from behind just like she did with Nadir.

As for JNPR. While Jaune isn't exactly OP, he's pretty much a great leader compared to the rest. Plus like I said, he's at the same level as some students despite he's been training for months while the rest has been doing it since they were 13 (most likely). Give him a few more months alongside a Semblance and you pretty much got him above common students.

Ren, on the other hand, isn't necessarily strong but he's very resourceful as he's one of the main reasons why Jaune's plans actually work. Think of him as a Bolin who's not a bother to the team but an actual valuable asset.