Talk:Cinder Fall/@comment-26258854-20181004111117/@comment-26018514-20181004195523

"Excpet that doesn't make sense since Cinder did that exact trap on Raven. By that logic as soon as Raven was incased in ice she should've been uncouncious..."

RAVEN HAD AURA, that means the ice didn't just contact skin, it was entangled with a resisting force, remember how Raven commented the grimm arm couldn't be enhanced/covered by aura? This situation is why that was relevant, as Cinder was out of aura, the ice should have affected her immediately, and in order for that not to happen should she have resisted with fire magic we should have immediately seen signs of melting/steam... but we didn't, because she was surprised.