Board Thread:Episode Discussion/@comment-14138255-20160214165601/@comment-25185936-20160214212153

WC-83 wrote: BlackLilliana wrote: I don't even think Cinder needed Ozpin to die honestly. Her goal seemed to be much bigger than dealing with him, so all she really had to do was put him out of commission for a little while so that she could get away and continue with her mission. They could be the creators of the world as we know it, but Salem ended up becoming evil and created the Grimm, with humanity only surviving because of Dust (that Ozpin probably made). Then Ozpin shut himself off and lived in isolation, until the 4 Maidens renewed his faith in humanity.

Of course they probably aren't, but Ozpin is most definately old, being older perhaps than Port or any other being seen in the show with the exception of Salem. You're one smart cookie. I like that theory a lot actually. They could also be representations of life and death in which Salem was death and Ozpin was life and she was jealous at how everyone feared her and loved him so she created the Grimm to bring them all together in death and he'd be alone.