Board Thread:Episode Discussion/@comment-5430952-20181103172633/@comment-4141313-20181103214448

Okay, I guess I'll give my full thoughts, though I may enter into a rant.

Ozpin is a fucking moron. (Okay I'm going straight with a rant) For starters, he seriously expected he could keep telling half truths after the others explicitely asked him not too, while his current host is on their side? That's Strike 1.

He doesn't trust people because others have betrayed him. I understand trust issues are a thing, but thats like say "1 cat in a litter of 10 bit me while the others were all nice, so I hate cats now". If he has truly lived millenia, and has had numerous people like Qrow, Glynda, and Ironwood with him, he can't just keep quiet out of fear of a Lionheart. Hell, this is why Ironwood doesn't trust him! And even Qrow is starting to lose faith in him! That's Strike 2.

He tried to take the Relic, outright lying to the others again despite his host knowing his thoughts, and when Ruby rightfully asks the only person who can tell him the truth, Jinn, he charges her and attempts to bum-rush her?! Does he really expect anyone to follow him if he attacks them like that?! Strike 3 Ozpin, you're out.

But just to give a 4th Strike, for all his talk of humanity being strong and light shining in the darkness, he has surprisingly little faith in them himself. No wonder all the villains and Raven hate him, he's not only a moron, he's a goddamn hypocrite. I actually fear that RAVEN was in RWBY's position originally, and she decided to jump ship after finding out!

Worst part is that there is a big swaythe of the fandom defending Ozpin and demonizing RWBY for trying to find out the secrets, saying "They can't handle the truth" or "Ozpin has a right to his secrets". Not when they are entrusting their lives to him he doesn't!

I seriously am hoping Oscar absorbs Ozpin rather than the other way around, cause at least with Oscar, they won't be kept in the dark perpetually. And it seems possible since Oscar did manage to fight Ozpin for control rather than Ozpin just continue controlling him.

Okay, Ozpin Rant over.

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Onto other thoughts, OFC Cinder is still alive, there was a conveniant lake and a conveniantly brittle wall for her to escape through. Real nice design on those vaults Ozpin when a random civilian would have found it had Cinder not killed her. And she isn't going back to Salem? ''Whaa? 'Yeah no, totally obvious. '''She goes back there without results, her ass is done.

So the Relic of Knowledge is a Genie's Lamp, not the Flame of Knowledge. And it has a, lets say Spirit since she clearly isn't a Goddess, in it named Jinn. I doubt every Relic has a Spirit, rather only Knowledge does to further the Genie comparison. Odd however that Jinn mentioned only being made by the Brother God of Light. Thought the Relics were made by both Gods, unless there's more to the story of the God's that not even Qrow knows, and again, Ozpin does.

So the Grimm hunt for the Relics due to their "nature"? At first I'd think Salem, but as Jinn is telling us, Salem was once human, and according to the story the God of Darkness was the sole creator of the Grimm. So did the God of Darkness never truly leave Remnant, and wants the Relics for himself? And is using Salem as a pawn? .... Nah.

And while the Relic can only be used every 100 years, its concerning that one question has been used already, meaning Ozpin used it on something. If it weren't for the "consequences" of using a Question, I'd ask why not just use all the questions at once so even if Salem does get it, it will be useless for another century.

And the Madam is "Little Miss Malachite", so possibly a relation to Melanie and Miltia. The Spider Motif makes sense now. A man was mentioned asking about RRAYNBW, but who? Hazel should have headed back to Salem's domain with Mercury and Emerald, and Adam wouldn't associate with humans.

So Salem was human once.... It was obvious. Knows the Wizard intimately, wasn't mentioned in the Story over who made the Grimm, and was one of three options for the identity of the blonde woman in the intro. Something concerning though, but I wouldn't put too much stock in it. Someone on tumblr remembered Tyrian being interested by Jaune in V4 for an unexplained reason, and said Salem's human form and Jaune have some similarities.The idea their putting forward is that the Arc family isn't descended from the Warrior King, but from Salem. I wouldn't put too much stock in it since the similarites are superficial, but it could explain Tyrian's interest if he knew what his "Goddess" looked like as human and saw some resemblance in Jaune.

My biggest concern is that Maria is probably seeing this too. We have no idea if she was even aware of any of this shit going on before, but now is getting a crash course on it, and they have no choice but to let her in.

Now, predicatably, they will still have to deal with Ozpin, as a scene of them walking in the snow and Maria being on Bumblebee still hasn't happened yet, and Oscar was with them. Really hope Ozpin stops acting like an idiot though.