Board Thread:Episode Discussion/@comment-34633327-20180112214926/@comment-34633327-20180113202754

ACWeapons wrote: What about Nora and Blake? Nora being able to absorb far more electricity and Blake with an squad of shadow clones? The problem with Blakes is that her Shadow Clones don't possess too much autonomy, they can move a step or two, but mainly they just take her place right before she gets hit. So an army of them wouldn't really be that useful. As for Nora, considering how much she absorbed from Hazel without a boost from Jaune, I don't think she has a limit to how much she can absorb.

And again, to all the naysayers on Cinder not being dead. Her aura is broken, and her body was frozen solid. The average amount of time a person with even a little exposed skin in 0 degree F weather takes to get Frostbite is 30 minutes, but Cinder has the ice being applied to her body directly. Ice cannot form that quickly even at Absolute 0, so the temperature of the ice has to be even lower than that. Raven only survived because her Aura protected her. Cinder doesn't have that. Her body right now is being exposed to temperatures lower than Absolute Zero, on her entire body, without any aura. If she could access her fire, she would have done so by now, and the ice at the least would be steaming and cracking like it did with Raven.

But, for the sake of the benefit of the doubt, lets assume Cinder does break free of the ice. She still would have to deal with the impact with the ground. Considering that as she continues falling her speed will increase, and assuming the hole there isn't bottomless, lets make an estimate at how long till she hits the ground. Lets assume Cinder weighs about 110 pounds, and that the hole is about 200 ft deep, or 60.69 meters deep. At the rate she is falling, by time she hits the ground she will be traveling 35 meters per second, around 115 ft per second. And she'd hit the ground in about '''4 seconds. '''

The highest height a person has fallen and survived was 33,330 ft, or 10,160 meters. But even then, Vesna Vulovic, the one who fell from that height, still ended up in a coma for 10 days, spents months in the hospital recovering, and had a fractured skull, and broke three vertebrae, both her legs, several ribs, and fractured her pelvis. So, Cinder could survive the fall, yes, but she would be in tremendous pain and would be out of commission for some time. Combine that with the injuries from her fight with Raven, the fact she still isn't fully recovered from the Silver Eyes, and the Frostbite we already covered...... yeah, Cinder's chances of living are pretty much non-existant.