Talk:Battle Pages/Battle of Haven/@comment-35455126-20180910001328/@comment-26018514-20180910041635

To be fair, there are a few key differences from Vale's fall that would explain that;

1. There were no non-combatants; Blakes menagerie Volunteer militia, Salem's forces, Mistral's police, experienced WF forces, Ozpin's forces, Leo, and Salem's forces.

2. There wasn't more than a few key player acting on negative emotions; with only Salem's forces and arguably Raven's forces acting on killing intent, as well as Adam himself(the rest of his forces were just there to blow up a relatively empty building to stick it to the man), and Leo practically shitting his pants in fear, there wasn't much draw.

3. Salem's group was attempting a surprise attack by portal, she may have been actively keeping Grimm clear of the area to keep suspicions of imminent attack from forming. and keep local grimm clearing missions out of nearby areas.