Board Thread:Administrative Requests/@comment-5427970-20170802173038/@comment-25396609-20170802175200

All we do is state what we've seen without making any claims about the actual nature; you do NOT wanna see the rather heated debates about Ren was doing.

Which, I might add, was left totally unexplained until the V4 DVD commentary; and even that is only available to people who buy the DVD or blu-ray.