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Midnight Blaze V wrote: I'm hoping for a victory here but this time it comes at a price, like they save Atlas and Mantle but they lose something or someone important enough that it feels like even though they won they still lost

Something like "Empire Strikes Back", where even though the rebels and heroes survived to fight another day they lost Han Solo (the fact that they rescued him in the next movie notwithstanding)

The obvious I can think of is, Cinder and Neo stealing the Lamp of Knowledge for Salem and get back into her good graces That's kind of what the Battle of Haven was meant to be, a victory but how much of a victory really was it? The headmaster is dead, the school is in shambles, they don't have the spring maiden, sure the tower is safe but with the one at Beacon still damage the CCT still doesn't work enough for the kingdoms to communicate with each other. It was a good concept that I want to say was poorly delivered but I don't think that key part of the ending wasn't really given any delivery to be poor, it was literally nothing.