Board Thread:Speculation House/@comment-35941743-20190304195312/@comment-1446360-20190717121221

Glitchee123z wrote: The Devil&#039;s Advocate WP wrote:

Glitchee123z wrote: No, I was saying that it being necessary didn’t make it any better than pointless misdeeds, if not than made it worse because Cinder is willing to kill anyone for power. You just somehow made it seem like it being necessary was actually worse than unecessary, which was nowhere implied in my sentence. Yeah, if that is not what you intend then you need to seriously examine your phrasing. Even here it reads like that is exactly what you are saying. Feh. Your opinion.

Again, Cinder has not shown any sign of remorse or a “better side” thus far, and as Mega pointed out the words “i WaNt tO bE FeAreD” are the words of a power-hungry tyrant in the making.

You can’t just excuse or justify a villain’s actions by comparing them to another villain who isn’t part of the same series. It just doesn’t work and sure as hell won’t work now. It isn't about excusing or justifying anything. The whole point is whether it is possible for a character to be redeemed in a story after so much horrendous conduct. Showing that it can and has been done with a character whose actions were even more ruthless is reasonable.

Really, the part where she says "I want to be feared" is the part that most makes me think her backstory has something tragic in it. The way that line is delivered reeks of panged desperation.

Well in that case, explain how Cinder could be redeemed logically, because Vader redeemed himself to save his son from Palpatine. (If I remember correctly)

Emerald. Emerald could be the deciding factor as to whether or not Cinder gets redeemed or not. She could be the only person that could actually get through to her given their history together. Sometimes, even the most callous, cold hearted bastards have that one person that can cut through the icy cold exterior and find the heart inside. I think maybe Emerald is that person.