Thread:ChildOfTheMoon3/@comment-14138255-20161024195610/@comment-26185073-20161103032142

WC-83 wrote: It's just that there are several people who want genders (that frankly overlap in many ways) to be recognized and are infuriated that people don't label them correctly when they honestly can't be as easily identified as they'd like.

The problem with people who want multiple genders to exist is that it often is heralded by bored white girls who think gender identity is an adventure ("it's fun!") when it's often a crisis of identity for those with gender disphoria (transgendered people, who have a clinically diagnosed disassociation with their birth gender and actively seek to change it, and this honestly is normal).

ShoeOnHead is a Youtube who often tackles extremist gender politics. She has a video with her trans friend (who was once female but now is male) where they look at Hunter and Milo videos (also Youtubers, at opposate ends of the spectrum). They also look at a ridiculous gender chart made on Tumblr that has several abstract genders that cannot be easily labelled (aerogender, ambigender, affectgender, and those are just the A's). To be fair on the chart, it does not mention sex, which is what most people think of, and it doesn't nessecarily say there are adjectives attached to them and are meant to be easily identified in common parlence. But I would assume that most who look at it want to be that gender and act incensed when they are "mislabelled."

I would like to ask how you mean by it's not much different? I don't know how you see gender politics, and that is important if the debate is going to go anywhere. Female to male transgender? Trans boy? Easier.)

I don't see gender politics in any particular way, I mean, these are just people's lives, how they identify. It's like back when we were brainwashed into believing there was only two. I know better than to get involved in these conversations, because I don't know all the facts, gender identities, and there's still so much I need to learn about it.

I think you should debate with someone better, with more knowledge. I still have a lot more to learn about gender..

I'm not entirely sure how to explain gender or anything..?

I mean, I guess just read 'Assigned Male', that might help..?