Board Thread:Episode Discussion/@comment-34633327-20171110205409/@comment-4010415-20171113071039

Shounnen wrote: 1. We saw Jaune being angry at Qrow for what happened to Pyrrha, right? Of course he wouldn’t let anyone kill him out of that anger because that’s his nature and duty as a huntsman, but in V5 Chapter 1 we see him smiling at him like nothing happened. And when Ozpin appeared again? Jaune, Nora and Ren were just amazed and happy, and even curious, not aware or angry because of what happened to Pyrrha. Let’s be honest here, Jaune even accused Qrow to use Ruby as bait to attract the enemy. The lack of scenes (where it doesn’t show he got past that) just made scenes from previous volumes lose their value.

2. You are contradicting yourself; you said that Ruby needed character development, yet she had a lot from Volume 1 to volume 3, we’ve seen her grow, and you also said that other characters need to shine or take the spotlight to make them grow as well. As spectators, we have to see the personality for each character; Ruby is just like that, she is weak on the inside and even if we are starting to see her weakness showing up, that doesn’t mean her character development is starting late, it means she is strong enough to swallow the grief and keep moving forward. We should not confuse those kind of things. Besides, you said it in your point 4, she will eventually break.

3. Indeed, other mistakes that they are still making are the ones I pointed out in my point 1; the fact that some scenes don’t have any value or stopped meaning something because of their attitude in this volume. 4. Yup, although I must say that because she knows Ruby’s dialogues she can have some ground on what she feels like before anyone else (besides the tone voice the script tells her to have as well).



1. Yeah, that is weird, and I'm hoping that we will have Jaune scenes that help that make sense or something this volume. We're only on the 5th episode out of 14, and on the Ozpin side of things, Jaune was probably too focused on the weird situation that he was learning about to focus on blaming Ozpin for what happened to Pyrrha. Though, I noticed at one point, it did kinda look like Jaune was glaring at Ozpin a little.

While Ren also has his arms crossed, Ren's eyebrows are relaxed, whereas Jaune's eyebrows are kind of like angry eyebrows, and he has a slight frown. Know what I mean?

2. I was not saying Ruby needed character development. What I want is for Ruby to act like a person with an actual personality, with deeper thoughts and motivations, which she did show while writing her letter to Yang in No Safe Haven and showed a lot of in Volume 1. Meanwhile, in Volume 2, she started declining, and by Volume 3, she had lost a lot of that. In Volume 4, we finally saw that again once in a while, and I would like some more of it to help make up how disproportionately little she has had in comparison to her teammates and Jaune.

While it is fine to let a character take a back seat for a little while, it is not fine for that ride in the back seat to take up most of two freaking volumes, especially if that character is a title character. Team RWBY are the main protagonists, and Weiss, Blake, and Yang have been allowed to keep acting like people, though we didn't get to see much depth to Yang until Volume 2. Ruby shouldn't spend most of two volumes straight acting less like a person and more like a character who's just kinda there to do plot things.

Her development is building up, yes, but in the meantime, I'd like to see her still getting to be a person instead of just a cardboard cutout that's only here to give reactions to what's currently happening and help push the plot, which is what she felt like for a lot of Volume 3 with that decline into it beginning partway into Volume 2.

3. According to Miles, the reason they set up for Volume 5 to be 14 episodes instead of 12 is because they wanted to be able to have more happen without having to skip over things and rush everything just to fit it all into one volume. I heard there was also something about them having more funding that helped them be able to raise the number of episodes, but I'm not 100% sure how accurate that is. Perhaps, as time goes on, they'll be able to raise the number of episodes a little further.

4. Yeah, there's no doubt that Lindsay knows her character. It's just that it's one thing for them to tell us these things outside of the show, while it's another for us to actually get to see it in the show. You know what I mean? It's like how it really would've been helpful to know why the Nuckelavee's demon person thing went limp whenever the horse portion was moving and why the horse wouldn't move around while the person thing was attacking. Only someone who has bought the DVD or Blu-ray and watched the commentary or looked it up on the wiki will know that it's because it's a fusion between an Imp and a horse-like Grimm and only one can be in control at a time, so they can't both move at the same time as each other. Some things should really be in the show, not just in some commentary or interview somewhere as an "Oh, by the way..."