Talk:Salem/@comment-69.166.127.73-20160216004846

Salem is creepy. At first, when I didn't read all the voice a or credits, I thought she was Summer. Now I know she isn't. I think she can be Cinder's mother or grandmother. As I have stated on Cinder's page, I think Cinder wanted to take revenge upon Ozpin because her grandmother/mother "died" or suffered because of him. I am pretty sure Ozpin and Salem are about the same age. If Salem isn't Cinder's mother/grandmother, I think she was a Maiden. Then she would be younger than Ozpin. You can't figure out people's ages just by looking at them in RWBY universe. Or she can be related to Raven. The eyes are similar... And Qrow did say that Raven had a point of view of the world that he doesn't really thinks the same. Maybe Raven thinks that the world's in trouble because of Ozpin... But I am 99.99% certain that Salem and Cinder are related. Maybe Salem and RUBY are related. Who knows? Or maybe Salem and SUMMER were related. That would make a little sense. Salem could've been Summer's good friend. They maybe both went to Beacon. Then one day Oz sent Summer to a dangerous mission. Salem didn't want Summer to go but she had to because OZPIN said so. The Summer never came back. Salem was furious against Ozpin and left. Then she took place somewhere and planned to destroy Oz. Maybe her daughter WAS Cinder. And Cinder just hated Ozpin because her mother did too. And that way Ruby would be a little related to Salem because her mother was friends with her. If you say Cinder didn't care about Ruby well that's normal. Maybe Salem just didn't know Ruby was alive. Or at least didn't think that she'd be at Beacon because she knew Summer didn't want Ruby to go. And she didn't warn Cinder about that.