Board Thread:Episode Discussion/@comment-2601:189:4381:65F5:4568:1C58:D805:F83D-20180103073818/@comment-2001:8A0:D238:9B01:8DED:A90B:D80A:AB9B-20180104170720

Alhazad2003 wrote: Somehow I doubt they knew, in "The Next Step", Salem talked about Cinder killing Ozpin like it was a major accomplishment, which we know now isn't the case. If the whole cabal knew that Ozpin could reincarnate, then there'd be no reason to rejoice over his "death" at Beacon. Hence it would be a vain gesture on Salem's part, and I'm pretty sure she's not into vain gestures. She knew Ozpin was still alive, but didn't tell her acolytes because she wanted them to focus on the downfall of Haven. Though now I wonder if any of them will dare take Salem to task for that very large omission she made. I'm certain we'll find out in Volume 6. Salem didn't rejoice. She was a bit happy, but right after she showed concern. She has been fighting with Ozpin for possibly centuries - how the hell did she not know he would come back? He has done it before. Also, Leo justified himself to Hazel by saying it's Ozpin: if they didn't expect Ozpin to come back, why would Hazel would just accept that information? Nevertheless, killing him even if temporarily was a win for them. They didn't expect him to come back so early, and they didn't expect him to find Qrow so fast (not to mention not tell Leo himself, which kinda shows they knew they were walking into a trap - even if they did not that they prepared for it correctly)