Board Thread:Episode Discussion/@comment-25396609-20191207154319/@comment-24994749-20191209143956

Ok, so first thing first:

NO NORA NOVEMBER IS OVER! I repeat, NO NORA NOVEMBER IS OVER" This Is Not a Drill!!!

"It will be just like Beacon again!" *sweats nervously remembering what happened the last time a redhead kissed her love interest*

ZeoCobra wrote: Speaking of Faunus, is it me or does Robyn not see Faunus as people, she placed them in a separate group when she mentioned them in her plans for the Kingdom. Given that she seems pretty close with Fiona, I am pretty certain the faunus might not have full citizenship under the current law.

AntisocialMedia wrote:

Robyn says "citizens and Faunus"; are Faunus somehow not full citizens? Jacques at the party said they had the same opportunities... Let's go over what we know about Faunus Rights:

- Slavery was a thing until the Great War.

- They were granted "equal status" to human after the Great War, yet the humans also tried to push them all to Menagerie and they had to fight an entire separate war to prevent it.

- We saw Faunus protesting for civil rights in Vale, which is apparently one of the most accepting kingdoms.

- Businesses in Mistral are still allowed to reject serving faunus.

- Atlas is more racist than Vale.

- Robyn makes a distinction between citizens and faunus.

I think it possible that the law discriminates faunus in certain ways by not allowing interspecies marriage, limiting right to vote, limiting educational opportunities, minimum wage laws might make a difference between faunus and humans, etc.

NeoIceQueen wrote: This could be coincidental but I noticed that it was Clover who suggested that they all take a night off on the night of a planned attack. Kinda shady but could just be coincidence I also saw it pointed out, that it looks like Ren's danger sense went off when Clover arrived with Ironwood, just like it went off when the Ace Ops first appeared.

EndeavorT wrote: There might be a way to prove Penny's innocence, though I'm not sure if it's credible or not or if RT will even use this in the show for the good guys to prove Penny's innocence. We know Watts modified the footage to make it look like she killed those civilians in the dark but even in night vision mode the cameras would've shown blood on her swords but Watts used old footage of a Penny fighting Grimm and they don't have blood. Even when the lights came on there would've been blood on her weapons and there was no sign that Tyrian tried to flick the blood off his blades when he caused that massacre. The thing is, who is going to be presenting the evidence that it wasn't Penny? Atlas.

And it would take hours or maybe even days to analyse the footage and prove it was doctored.

And the people of Mantle might not be inclined to believe it.

And then you add the racism issue, because there will be people that will see it as humans framing a faunus.

Phantomlink959 wrote: If any of the happy huntresses is trans, my money is still on Joanna; more masculine body structure with an androgynous voice.

May is pretty overtly feminine in build and voice. It's just my personal opinion, but given very few trans people have a perfect transition it may not be the BEST form of representation. I can already imagine people complaining about it. Well, personally, I have run into plenty of trans people who are tired of trans-women always being portrayed as somewhat "masculine" and trans-men always being portrayed as somewhat "feminine", regardless of transition status.

On the other hand, a lot of people are jumping to say that because a character is being played by a trans-woman, that character should be trans... which reminds me of Florencia de la V (she is a famous Argentinian trans-woman) and how she said that while she had no issue with being trans or playing trans characters, she sometimes wished she would just be allowed to play a female character that was just that, female, and didn't get outed as trans at any point of the story.