Board Thread:Episode Discussion/@comment-4141313-20190119003858/@comment-38271940-20190207003825

SomeoneYouUsedToKnow wrote:

1) Yes it is.....if we're talking about a raw chunk of metal. One dense block, instead of something much lighter and thin, like a car's door.

2) But if you want me to say if I think he could: Yes he could, if he uses his Semblance, otherwise no. Because his sword is the kind designed for speed, not power. And the design means it lacks CR's effectiveness for things like this, because CR has more concentrated pressure and a handle that can function more similar to a lever.

3.1) ......Serious question here: Are you being stupid on purpose, or do you simply not watch this show at all?

>Ruby exterminated a whole horde of Beowolves alone before even starting her Beacon classes.

>Yang took down Junior and all his men alone in their own club before even starting her Beacon classes.

>Adam and Blake take down multiple AKs and only have some amount of difficulty with the lone, outstanding Spider Mech.

>Team RWBY defeats dozens of WF mooks in the train without any difficulties, after starting their trip to Mt. Glenn one-hit-killing entire groups of Grimm. They only have a hard time when Yang faces Neo and Weiss faces the WF Lieutenant.

>Ruby alone takes down quite a number of Grimm in her V4 short, IIRC even slicing a Nevermore in half. She only has some trouble with the lone Beringel.

>Weiss took out multiple Lancers on her own, and only had problems when the Queen showed up and shrugged off multiple boxes of exploding Dust.

>Yang took out an entire dozen of bandits alone without having to give a damn.

And those are just a couple of off-handed examples of this in the show. So again, I ask you: Are you being stupid just to antagonize me?

Not to mention, RWBY is indeed your "typical trope show". Leaving aside how all shows use tropes, Monty himself just wanted to make cool stuff without thinking.

3.2) If he can endure that much and walk it off, what makes you think puny shots from normie guns would make any difference?

3.3) If we went by "what the show proves" then you're the one that looks dumb for thinking Hazel is a dumbass for using his Semblance. Because it was because of his Semblance that he was such a juggernaut for the entire night. He berserks, yes, but berserkering can work quite well, and in the show itself that would be an understatement.

His Semblance is literally, both in concept and from what we saw, one of the most practical and useful Semblances in this show. He would be a dumbass if he didn't use it

4) No it isn't. Best it gets on that is Magic, and even then not much. "Women who can shoot elemental shit from their hands", "people who turn into birds", that shit is extremely lacking in imagination. The Vaults are better, but Fable did it first and Fable 3 was just as alien with it.

5.1) I've seen characters much bigger and bulkier and slower than Hazel doing small evasive hops. I see no reason for Hazel to not do the same if he can. Not my problem if you can't imagine a big, muscular man sidestepping.

5.2) And by that you mean what, Adam running like around using his Semblance on random trees? That would be brain-dead stupid of him, a total waste of energy. 1. Well that does bring up the argument of metal types, but let's evade that complication. Instead, I was imagining chopping through an engine, and admittedly the robots wouldn't be that thick.

2. How is a scythe better? Especially in the manner that Ruby used it? Scythes are meant more commonly for stabbing and then ripping, not for chopping. Plus she's also a speed type like Adam, not a strength type.

To finalize my thoughts on this part I still think Adam (as well as any huntsman with a bladed weapon) could easily cut through a tree - not because the weapon use is logical, but because the world itself designates it as such - but without another example to cite I'll concede.

3.1. Are you ignoring the context on purpose or just stupid? ;)

Ruby fought exclusively melee opponents.

Yang fought exclusively melee opponents until the one on one with the DJ and then the 2v1 Melanie and Miltia.

Adam and Blake were 2v1 against less than 20 mechs in a narrow passage. Numbers don't compare.

RWBY fought a 5v50 in a narrow passage - numbers don't compare.

Ruby slays fights like less than 10 grimm - numbers don't compare.

Weiss fought exclusively melee opponents.

Yang fought less than 10 enemies - numbers don't compare.

I'm not trying to antagonize you. I'm trying to explain that the show isn't a one-man army trope. It differs from most tropes in terms of combat in that the good guys don't always win and the bad guys don't always get away. Numbers mean something when they're trained - even mildly. And Adam wasn't facing a dozen enemies - he was fighting upwards of 100.

When did Monty say that? I'm not familiar with that line. And regardless, the show's canon differs.

3.2 He would still be taken down eventually when facing those numbers. The shots of the enemies aren't puny, they're just like the main characters. The difference is that the main characters either aren't shot at, dodge, or deflect. In a hypothetical, like this? Yeah - they would actually shoot.

3.3 He's not a dumbass for using his semblance, he's a dumbass ''because of it. ''It makes him dumb when using it - like real painkillers. Let's number it to clearly show what I'm saying.

Regular Hazel: Pain Tolerance = 50%, IQ = 100

Hazel using his semblance: Pain Tolerance = 100%, IQ = 50

Using his semblance makes perfect sense - it's great and he's great with it! But he becomes half mindless while it's happening.

4. You take that back, you monster! Obviously I mean the combat is imaginative (beyond 4/5). Look at the Nevermore battle in volume 1. THAT SHIT IS IMAGINATION AS FUCK!

5.1. But he doesn't dodge. He absorbs and counters. I'm not saying he's incapable of it, I'm saying he wouldn'.t

5.2. Not a waste of energy if it distracts Hazel enough to kill him.