Board Thread:Episode Discussion/@comment-24032889-20190105161936/@comment-14909251-20190118041719

BlizzardDragon wrote: You do remember they only gave up after being surrounded and after Adam tried to blow all their asses up right? He tried to kill everyone there, including his own loyal followers, in order to spite humanity. And he's the only one who escaped. They were a team of roughly eight members surrounded by two of their former members, an entire militia including the leader of Menagerie, the Mistralian police force, and a huntsman in training. And even then they didn't all immediately give up, as the ones who fought back were restrained like the one Ilia tackled.

What do you think the other members would think then if the only info they had to go on was by word of mouth, and they suddenly heard Adam bolted into the woods after a minor scuffle with his ex-abusee while leaving his followers behind? I'm not sure what your point is here. Adam fought until it was clear his only options were being captured or killed. He was the last one fighting and his fighters had given up. The notion that he "abandoned" them by escaping is still absurd. Sure, it is possible people might judge him based off how the information is relayed to them, but we know better. Note sure how anyone here can seriously claim Adam abandoned anyone.

And again, not everyone is against him, only the ones in Mistral are. With the CCT down, none of the other members have reason to hate him, meaning whats left in Vale, the stragglers in Menagerie, and any in Atlas and Vacuo, are still loyal. Do agree at least with this, but I think it would be ridiculous if anyone who heard about it was suddenly be against him. Surely there are those in the White Fang who can recognize he fled to continue the fight rather than facing certain capture or death.

Plus, Adam is not Blake's entire plotline, nor is the Fang. Blake's plotline was always about the fight for equality between humans and faunus. The Fang were simply a roadblock to that goal. While they are out of the way, another roadblock isn't, the SDC. If anything, this allows her plotline to intersect with Weiss' again, as both have big issues with the SDC.

Adam was a personal antagonist, yes, much like Jacques and Whitley are for Weiss, but to say without him Blake has no plotline is factually incorrect. Good thing I didn't say she has no plotline or else I'd look like as big an idiot as a person who ascribes to people things they didn't say. Your argument that Blake can now just share a plotline with Weiss is not very good at addressing my point. The struggle with SDC and Jaques will always be the main struggle for Weiss and making it now Blake's turns her story into a subplot of that storyline. She becomes a secondary character in the struggle Weiss has with her family.

I would also say that Blake's personal story was never strictly about the fight for equality, but about the fight over methods in achieving it, which was partly a product of her personal struggle. She abandoned her old way of thinking and pursued a new way of thinking, but the old way kept creeping back up to challenge her. That conflict doesn't really work if there isn't someone or something forcing her to grapple with it and it is uniquely hers. Adam is a powerful representation of that conflict and the only suitable one.

The one way I can see them being able to continue with Adam dead is if Adam still has a certain influence over her and by that I mean he gets in her head at the end. He says something that rings a little too true to her and it boils up at a later point with the ultimate result being something akin to a face-heel turn. I can see that as a part of a Second Great War arc sparking off in their time at Atlas.

SomeoneYouUsedToKnow wrote: Volume 6 is the only time Blake's motivations and plot thread hasn't had anything to do with the White Fang or Adam......until Ep10 rolled around, so not even that. Illustrating my point, up to Adam's appearance, Blake's story has been pretty inconsequential this Volume. Ruby, Oscar, Jaune, and even Qrow have been more significant features in the story so far this Volume. Blake was basically a tag-a-long for all the big story developments until this episode.