Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-25266931-20170126040344/@comment-25266931-20170131050059

@WC-83: SMH My god. That's a way to go. Years of kicking Grimm ass. Only to die from poison or the weather due to your ruined immune system. No cool at all. If anything it'd be better to die doing a last stand against the Nucklavee Grimm as Ruby and gang run for the hills crying his name and vowing to avenge him when they're stronger. No way is Cinder gonna turn over a new leaf, but she may start to distance herself from Salem and tell Merc and Em to get their Oh Shit Bags ready so they can ditch Salem's group if need be.

@ Spirited: I think Cinder saw Oz die in that the whole vault room must've fell on him. That's the only way I could figure her not grabbing the cane when she could. He decided to run and leave him to be buried alive. Oz is dead otherwise Oscar would have his soul. Maybe when she saw how Tyrian was treated for his failure Cinder got a taste of what she would've got if she failed the Beacon Mission. The heroes don't always win in this show. Nikos got killed after giving it her all. Penny got tricked into dying too and she was as innocent and heroic as it gets. I would say the heroes always prevail if this was just Torch and Neo and some Team Rocket type villains. But Salem's crew seem like they are pumped full of Dust Steroids. They're each powerful enough to deal with like 5 intermediates.