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Megadracosaurus wrote: @Brooklyn Kontic

Considering everyone else already summed up the Bumblebee stuff, I'll focus on Adam instead. First of all, no. I don't think it was ever said how powerfull he was exactly. Again, judging by all the things he's done in the show itself, he's nowhere near as skilled as Qrow. You're doing here what a lot of people do: making assumptions about Adam based on what you wanted him to be, as opposed to what he actually is. Of course he isn't gonna live up to those exspectations if said exspectations all come down to 'he looks cool and his fighting style looks badass!'. Its not fair to judge Adam compared to something that never happened, was never planned to happen and won't happen. You should judge things at how they are, rather then what you want them to be.

Again, just take a look at all of his fights and tell me with a straight face that is someone who is as skilled as a veteran Huntsman. If you're being honest with yourself, then the answer is no. Adam, judged by everything he did in the show, is around the level of a third or fourth year Huntsman Academy student at most. He's an assasin, picking off weak opponents and striking when they're vulnereble. Blake even said this during volume 5, when she stopped Sun from going after Adam.

As for Adam not being shown to be psycopathic and spitefull, I ask you: what was he shown as? Prior to his appearance in volume 3, we only saw him for a long period of time in the Black trailer, where the only thing shown was that he was ruthless. A five minute video isn't enough to sum up the entire personality of a trailer. Really, this again come's down to people making assumptions that are based on what they wanted Adam to be, as opposed to what he is.

As for Blake fearing him...It wasn't just because of his strenght or even his influence in the White Fang. Remember what she told Yang? How Adam made her feel small, helpless and vulnereble? How he managed to get into her head and make her feel useless? That's a big part of why she was afraid of Adam. If you don't believe you can defeat someone, you're not gonna defeat them, even if you're able to. You can fear someone for more then their fighting abilities.

In the end, it all come's down to people seeing glimpses of Adam and making all sorts of assumptions and exspectations that ultimately aren't found on what Adam is.

When you see Adam beat up bandits and androids, he looks awesome, I won't deny it. But is it really that impressive when you realize the bandits are underleveled, have no armor and have small, simple weapons, or that the androids were old and outdated and were gonna be replaced soon because they just weren't all that effective? Or him cutting off Yang's arm. Is it still impressive when you realize she was already weakened (as CRWBY confirmed in the commenantary of the episode) and Adam had already stored up his Semblance from all the fighting before? Its like a lion in its prime stumbeling upon a wounded zebra and finishing it off. Ultimately, Adam's achievemnts just aren't all that impressive when you look at them through context. Ok. I admit, nothing much was shown in the trailer ITSELF... but in context of WHY he was doing it for the White Fang. A lot of people believed he was a specifically ruthless but believed in the cause. (Him being a crazy ex-boyfriend was just a really over-used trope. And nothing about him and blake having a relationship was hinted prior) Also, I'll admit his power-level is never officially stated, but most people I talk to or meet say he's pretty much a first-rate huntsman in comparison. Again, this could be completely wrong, but aside from you no one's ever really tried to correct that theory... so... yeah he could be weaker than that but not by much.

And in the case of Adam making Blake fell vulnerable... well there are actually a lot of ways for him to have done that.

Also, I don't care how weak Yang was, against a regular opponent in such an environment, she would've had the reflexes to at least DODGE. (And she CAN dodge in mid-air, she's shown being able to use her shotgun's recoil as a form of mobility)