Talk:Ruby Rose/@comment-26258854-20190127071514/@comment-25936766-20190130181221

1) "The blindingly obvious needed to be said"?

Ruby: ''We're going to Atlas. Bigger people than you have tried to stop us and failed, but we're supposed to be on the same side! We're supposed to use our power to protect people, but you just use yours to look down on everyone! We didn't want to steal from you. We did it because you gave us no other choice! Now I'm giving you one last chance to stand down and hear us out. ''

The only "blindingly obvious" thing in that entire speech was the part of Cordovin looking down on people....which in itself is not really correct since what she does is brag about Atlas (and to be fair, Atlas is in a better state than Vacuo, Vale and Mistral right now. Qrow himself said it was the safest Kingdom at the moment).

She also says that they chose to steal an Atlesian airship simply because Cordovin didn't let a bunch of randoms who showed up out of nowhere go to Atlas while Ironwood doesn't want anyone in or out. IIRC Cordovin even mentioned that last part. That's just stupid of Ruby to even try to justify like that and makes the whole group sound less like unfettered heroes and more like entitled brats.

It was unnecesary and the speech himself just causes migraine. In moments like these, silence is worth more than a thousand words.

2) The speeches at Qrow being warranted isn't the point. The point is that Qrow is presented in a negative light, being an ovely whiny cynicist to the point of being obnoxious, just to make Ruby look good. Which in itself is bad writing, but being done multiple times in a row only makes it worse.

Qrow can be a depressed drunk without being whiny, you know? Or at least keep it to himself. Or at least show him having more of a spine when he's being a whiny cynicist, especially since in the 2nd speech he made a fairly good argument.