Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-25266931-20161128203912/@comment-27082610-20161202184319

KNN005 wrote: 1) Not just that. To me a story falls apart if there's plot holes or amateur writing. A writing a character to be just super selfish and evil with no reason why and/or no redeeming traits seems like a bad road to go down if the story is suppose to be top shelf stuff. 2) If we accept that Raven "just doesn't give a fuck" and no matter who you are if you're not in her tribe you can burn in hell that's almost like giving the writers a get outta jail free card when it comes to development of character.

3) Is she really a torture soul bogged down by a tribal tradition? Does she not want to hurt the poor but has to steal to survive? I don't want to just across the board label her as evil and that be that. 1) Raven not caring about Yang is not a plot hole. She is not selfish and evil for no reason, she simply only cares about the well-being of her family, which she has mad explictily clear does not include Yang or Taiyang. Adam doesnt' need redeeming traits to be an intersting character, and his reasons for being evil have already been explained. In summary, you're full of shit.

2) No. No it does not. There's a lot that can be done with that with her as a character and a leader.

3) That is fucking ridiculous. She has had TWENTY FUCKING YEARS to change her mind and leave the tribe if she doesn't like their way of doing things. She doesn't have to hurt anyone, if they decide to put up a fight that's on them, not her or the tribe.

And for the last FUCKING time, 'I am not calling her evil. I am not saying she is a monster. '

My statement is exactly what she said in Family: She leads her tribe and will do anything to ensure their survival. If what she has to do is viewed as monstrous by others, so be it. That's it.