Talk:Cinder Fall/@comment-24834640-20180620211231/@comment-24834640-20180621015237

@73.Annon.52

The reaction and comments of several Cinder Haters tell me otherwise. Accompanied by the fact that Cinder was put as a Noob when both were on par with power, it makes me think about it. Even several "fans" of Raven hate Cinder and say that Raven is a heroine for her battle with Cinder. Cinder's comment box is a clear example of what I'm saying. Even if it was not done as a Fansercive I end up being one.

@ChishioKunrin

Let me explain what I mean by the choreography and the script of the two fights.


 * The two battles began after Vergil and Cinder observed their opponents, followed by an exchange of words.


 * In the first round Vergil and Raven used their speed against Sephiroth and Cinder forcing them to the defensive. They even used their other powers and abilities to try to overwhelm them (Vergil used his teleportation And Beawolft, while Raven his Maiden powers, specifically ice)


 * The first round stops after Vergil and Cinder were injured (The abdomen and arm Grimm respectively)


 * These scenes They are verysimilar


 * Sephiroth and Raven took advantage (and created) distractions to their opponents to execute their movements.


 * This point is guided by the previous one. Sephiroth and Raven won because Vergil and Cinder were distracted by an external agent (The clones of Sephioroth and Vernal) that allowed them to do the coup de grace (Super Nova and the Cinder freeze)

Of course they also have their differences well marked.


 * The Sephiroth vs. Vergil was more focused on the duel of the characters. While the Raven vs Cinder in the destruction of the environment product of the power of both


 * The Sephiroth vs. Vergil was a battle where both fighters were respected. While the Raven vs Cinder was pure Fansercive


 * The victory of Sephiroth was better elaborated in comparison to the one of Raven (The appearance of Vernal was forced)


 * You may be right and see things that do not exist. But both battles I liked and the fact that both series are RT and have a month of difference led me to the conclusion mentioned.