Board Thread:Speculation House/@comment-71.84.15.225-20150807131522/@comment-14909251-20150914232517

LiveandSound wrote: 1-"Didn't make it out of the tunnels" doesn't = "The Grimm massacred them all". They died thanks to Roman and arguably Glynda, whose actions are the reason their fate was sealed. Even if the tunnels had no Grimm at all, even if there were and the WF mooks survived, since they can't escape, they would have died of starvation if not commited suicide.

While that is possible, keep in the mind the Grimm were chasing after the train even as White Fang were being knocked off of it left and right. There is a very good chance they were killed by Grimm.

2-Yes, most of the Grimm were young and stupid, but you're forgetting a few things: 1)It's been 2 years IRL, it's about time they showed a real adult Grimm, instead of all these countless 1-HP-Wonder red shirts. And 2)There were Deathstalkers, the closest thing we have to adult Grimm. Like 4 of them got 1 hit Killed by Coco in less than 6 seconds in a single scene. And Coco is far from a graduated Huntress. If a 2nd-3rd Year student can cause that much damage, imagine what a profesional Hunter can do. Suddenly the whole idea of the Grimm being a menace desintegrates and falls into the Void.

I think the Goliaths were very much meant to be real adult Grimm and Oobleck points out that they are waiting for the right moment. Basically, those Grimm were intelligent enough to know full well that storming into the city would be suicide. The fact the show is just barely into the second half of the first school year in the RWBYverse suggests they really don't need to go all out yet.

In other news, I got an idea. Lots of noobs and ignorants say "She must be alive!" simply because Yang didn't outright say "she died", instead using an euphenism. Other, more inteligent people, say that she is dead and it's freaking obvious. I've been thinking of a 3rd option. Basically, Summer died....and lived. Yes, it's possible.

I am neither a noob nor ignorant. My issue is that I am noticing how people in the best position to confirm that she is dead had or have avoided explicitly confirming it. To me that seems as if they are leaving open the possibility or very much intend that she is still alive. Nothing that could be taken as official confirms it and thus I see at as an open question.

Biologically, Summer is alive. Psychologically, Summer is either dead or in a very long coma. This could be used for a future arc in a future volume, and pleases both sides. You want Summer alive? She is. You want her dead? She is. As for the tomb, is simple: One of her partners in that mission saw her fall off the cliff. Judging from the height of the fall, s/he thought Summer had no way of surviving that. The tomb was made because they thought she was KIA, and it's there in that location because that's where she died, more or less.

Well, the second part is also how I think the altar can be explained. Only difference is I don't think amnesia is a good example. As I explained earlier, I think a good possibility is that she was betrayed and is aware or was told by who rescued her that it goes much higher than just the people with her on the mission. Going back would thus endanger her and her family, so she has stayed away to protect them as she tries to find and bring down the people who betrayed her.