User blog comment:SomeoneYouUsedToKnow/SYUTK's V5E11 - Being Weiss Is Suffering - Impressions/Recap/@comment-34633327-20180103231431/@comment-34633327-20180104012843

1) The line she said though was in regards to solely Pyrrha, as it was a response to Mercury asking about Pyrrha. What power was there to take from her? She was a 17 year old girl with a Magneto Semblance and skilled for her age. That's it. Why not just kill her?

Also, I am of the opposite belief. Pragmatism is my main belief in regards to tactics, and many of Cinder's goals seem less pragmatic in the long run. Her goal was to get the Maiden Powers and secure the relic, while also causing Beacon to fall in the process. What purpose did hiring the WF have? Getting a fall guy? More forces? They've made it clear they can cause the fall of Beacon without them, seeing as the ones not named Adam were glorified cannon fodder. Hell, with the King Virus they were able to lay the blame on Atlas and more specifically, Ironwood.

Even then, there were ways to get the objective down without inciting the panic. For example, put a tail on Ozpin and find the chamber where Amber is, like Cinder did at the last minute during the fall. Then once she has the power, blow the tower up like they're having Adam do to Haven. By causing the incident during the Vytal Fesitival and causing a panic, it gave those that didn't panic the time to launch a counterstrike. But by getting the objective done when everyone is focused on the tournament, you risk less interference. Then if you want to, incite a panic, and slip away in the confusion, securing both the objective, the Maiden Powers, and starting the fall of Beacon, then she can easily go back later once the area is under the Grimms control and search for the relic. What purpose was there in fighting Pyrrha? She could have just killed her outright. What purpose was there in fighting Ozpin if they know he'll reincarnate? Wouldn't it better to just capture him when he is unaware and drag him back to Salem's?

2. Just as there is a difference between a sadist and a condescending asshole, there are different variations of sadists.

Some like Roman make a show of their sadism, whereas others like Cinder use sadism as a means of expressing control. Not all Sadists laugh their heads off or are into BDSM. Some like to just exert their dominance. Plus, again I offer the unhinged argument.

3. I offered the Maya vs. Poser argument based on what was seen in the Volumes. I am aware of the expressions Ruby made in Poser thanks to Monty, which confused me as to why we didn't see stuff like that in Volume 1-3. Hence why I offered the argument, that it may be more difficult/improbable to do so.

Also, pride is quite the deadly quality, it is one of the 7 Deadly Sins after all. Damaged pride can make people quite angry, but throw in a quarter of Cinder's body being maimed/petrified, and you have a bit of crazy to deal with. It's been done in media before.

Freeze was so pissed at Goku, a filthy monkey as he put it, after he went Super Saiyan and began beating him that he tried to blow up Namek, and then after seeing Trunks in Super Saiyan tried to blow up the Earth, and even after being revived in Resurrection 'F' he is so obsessed with Goku because of his pride he won't do the rational thing and forget about Goku.

Tai Lung was so convinced he was gonna be the Dragon Warrior that when Oogway told him no, he went berserk thinking the old fool was a moron and tried to destroy the valley. Even after getting the Dragon Scroll and finding its blank, rather than just accept the scroll was always blank, that that the power was inside himself, and that he was wrong, he goes berserk again thinking its a fake scroll and tries to murder Po.

Hell, Gilgamesh's pride is what causes his downfall in so many routes. His pride is so great, that the Corrupted Grail, which is supposed to turn servants into darker forms that serve it, was unable to affect Gilgamesh. His own pride fought off insanity, because it practically already made him insane to begin with!

All three people I used for my example turned a little unhinged in the former two, or were so consumed in pride they couldn't be made any more unhinged in the case of the latter.