Board Thread:Episode Discussion/@comment-4141313-20190119003858/@comment-25936766-20190205173941

HotSwappableGaming wrote: 1) I don't like the crescent rose argument. The moment we bring in the sharpness of a weapon things just get too assanine. Especially when it's never referenced.

2) She has an aura. as a result, Penny must have a soul - to some extent, at least.

3) I'd imagine her 'soul' would be tied to object - a core - and that core may still be intact.

4) Nah, his rifle can't be used when it matters. Call-back!

5) Adam's clones are just akin to after-images, though, right? They never led his actions, did they? Only followed?

6.1) A force-field that must consciously be turned on and used.

6.2) And if his guard was down for the stinger, I don't think it would be hard to land an aura-less backslash.

6.3) It's also referenced here on the wiki that Hazel seems to let his aura down when using the dust with it.

6.4) slash down some trees to force Hazel to get block-y, use the leaves and trees as a cover to have him lose sight 1) Well, too bad for you, but it's a legit and reasonable argument. Crescent Rose is one sharp little pole, which makes sense since it helps Ruby make up for her lack of muscle. And it has been consistent in that regard.

2) Yes. We know. But that part is obvious, and beyond the obviousity in that sentence, it has nothing to do with what I said, which for reminder, was just a theory that metal stuff isn't protected by Aura.

3) I seriously cannot see how anything I said has anything to do with that. And there is a big problem with this idea: The Battle of Beacon.

Penny was ripped apart in Amity, a colosseum flying in the sky. Amity was then swarmed by Grimm. None of the students there ever bothered to pick up her pieces before leaving, while Atlas was more busy evacuating everyone and soon after the robots went crazy and ships started blowing up.

It's been a year since then. Ironwood called everyone back to Atlas and no one can enter or leave without his authority. No one in Vale has any reason to go to Amity to get the pieces of a random robot girl. And Atlas themselves have even less reason when they can just make another Penny from scratch.

4) Except he still has blade beams. Which I also mentioned.

5) Completely wrong. They act either at the same time as him or before he even does anything, and their movements are different from Adam's. They are more like Sun's clones without the "stand still" limit.

6.1) Which Ren explained eventually becomes second-nature to turn on when needed. Especially when you're in the middle of a fight. And Hazel is not a dumbass like Sienna.

6.2) Wrong. When he dropped down his guard, that was after he saw the army of Menagerians that walked up to Haven, as well as the Mistral police airships, and then the brawl that ensued. Not something particularly small that one would just casually ignore.

None of your ideas of "Adam would do this and then that and then more this..." provide anything that would convincingly distract Hazel just as much. And that's assuming Hazel doesn't learn from his mistakes.

6.3) If the wiki says that then someone fucked up. He needs to turn it off to inject the Dust into his arms, but that's it. Once that's done he turns it on again, and it was outright noted that his Aura was active and regenerating fast back at Haven in the show itself after he had already doped with Fire and Lightning Dust.

6.4) Why would slashing down trees force Hazel to be blocky? Trees can't use Aura, they don't even have brains to know how. Hazel does, and Aura alone can help people survive literal explosions in the face, among many other things. Slashing down trees doesn't even work for intimidation against someone like Hazel. At best against bandits.

And Adam can't use neither leaves nor fallen trees as cover. At best he can jump on trees like a monkey, but even then, he is dressed in black and red, red that glows when he uses his Semblance, he completely fails at forest camouflage.

And chill with the Moonslices to the back. There is no damage bonus from back attacks against people with Aura up, this is not a videogame.