Talk:Lie Ren/@comment-36.36.68.69-20150802142836/@comment-26018514-20150802161248

I think Nora riding the Ursa was a similar level of achievement... it would have been difficult using her hammer to do that, so she likely did it mostly bare-handed... not to mention she sustained it with a living target... something Ren did not do.

That said Live is correct... the simple fact of the matter is Ren is not equipped for attacking armored opponents... if you gave a man an SMG and threw him against an armored division within their optimum range... would you expect him to win? No, he's not armed for it... yet Ren still wins 1 vs 1... and is still useful against them in those conditions... that shows great skill.