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SomeoneYouUsedToKnow wrote: Arkantos95 wrote: Nah, they really weren't responsible for it at all. In a way, they were. For starters, the "revelations" they gave Pyrrha, plus the fact that they basically said they're gonna make her the new Maiden, that she could die or lose her identity in the process, and that she has practically no choice on the matter, caused a greal deal of mental stress to Pyrrha.

Which made it easier for her to be manipulated by Emerald, and made it more likely for Pyrrha to go all out and perform an overkill. Which she did. And it also made it weight more on her after she killed Penny, since her self-steem and emotional status had already taken some hits.

The stuff they told Pyrrha also influenced her when she went fight Cinder, as if she was the only one who could stand a chance. Which of course, led to her death.

So overall, yes, Qrow and the Ozluminati are to blame, just indirectly. Basically what they gave Pyrrha was less a choice and more of an ultimatum. That being said what I like about Jaune is how despite his newly found cynicism he's still as determined to do the right thing as Ruby. It's in some ways more inspiring than Ruby. Her optimism has been shaken but not shattered. In many ways to me it feels like Ruby is STILL in denial. Jaune's optimism on the other hand may never fully recover. But he is doing the right thing anyways not because he thinks it will make a difference but because it is the right thing.