Talk:Cinder Fall/@comment-10390252-20181120121002/@comment-25936766-20181121131126

Cinder never double-crossed Salem, you people. Double-cross = betrayal or deception, and Cinder didn't do either of those things. She never tried to, say, take the Relic for herself.

The goal of her plan was on paper the same: Get the Relic in Haven and let the WF blow it up. All Cinder did was add an invitation to all the main heroes out of a revenge boner for Ruby, that never got anywhere because she decided to ignore Ruby in favor of Jaune.

If her plan had worked, the heroes die, Salem gets the Relic. That's no betrayal. But, the plan backfired hard and they got no WF, no Haven, no Relic, and all the heroes are still alive. That's still no betrayal, just epic fail.