User blog comment:SomeoneYouUsedToKnow/SYUTK's V5E11 - Being Weiss Is Suffering - Impressions/Recap/@comment-34633327-20180103231431/@comment-25936766-20180104152307

1) "She was a 17 year old girl with a Magneto Semblance and skilled for her age. That's it. Why not just kill her?"

By that logic, why not just kill every single student at Beacon and Vytal? Answer: It would be unnecesary and a waste of time.

Pyrrha was inteligent, very skilled, and had a Semblance that was very powerful if not very versatile. As a minimum, she can rival Cap. America's Shield Throw and make nearly-impossible shots with ease, thanks to that Semblance. And of course, she had won 4 tournaments even before getting to Beacon.

Ozpin would've obviously made her a Maiden at some point. Pyrrha as a (half)-Maiden would've been troublesome for Cinder, so she had to take care of Amber at some point. But that wasn't the top priority, she had to set the pieces in place for the overall plan to work.

At the same time, you forgot/ignored the entire conversation.

Cinder: ''Hmm... People assume that she's fated for victory, when she's really taking fate into her own hands. Interesting. '''Add her to the list. '

Mercury: ''You should be able to take her no problem. ''

Cinder: ''It's not about overpowering the enemy. It's about taking away what power they have. And we will, in time''

She wasn't targeting just Pyrrha. Pyrrha was just another remarkable asset on Ozpin's side that she was taking into account.

2) "What purpose did hiring the WF have? Getting a fall guy? More forces?" Yes.

In the BoB Ozpin can be argued to have been somewhat distracted by the situation, and too focused on giving Pyrrha Amber's Aura before it was too late, to notice anyone following them. Not to mention, he trusted Jaune to keep watch while at it.

I doubt Ozpin would go to the Vault all the time. And the only time he did prior to the BoB, he was accompanied by Ironwood, Qrow and Glynda. The chances of being discovered were much bigger back then and if she was found out she wouldn't have been able to simply walk away.

And considering Glynda managed to keep up with Cinder back in V1E1, add Qrow and Ironwood and Ozpin (who managed to stay mostly-equal to Full-Maiden Cinder!) into the mix and Cinder would've been curb-stomped if she even tried to just follow Ozpin into the Vault during the time of peace.

And even if she took your idea of following Ozpin to the Vault somehow, there's a problem: What happens then?

She would then have to deal with every student, every teacher, and the Atlesian Army, plus any foreign Huntsman who was there for the festival. If you think Cinder could've dealt with all of them, or even most of them, you're seriously overestimating her.

By getting the WF, she got herself an army of sorts to not just help secure Beacon grounds and distract, if not deal with, the students, but also to help cause panic. The WF themselves managed to get multiple Grimm into Beacon and Vale, which add onto the ones that barged in due to the existing panic.

The same goes with hacking the Atlesian Army. It not only takes away the heroes's main defense, they start attacking the people they were supposed to protect, causing even more panic, IOW attracting more Grimm.

Hell, it's likely that the only reason she even managed to awake the Grimm Dragon was because of all the panic her plan managed to cause. And between the AKs and the WF, every Huntsman who hadn't left was too busy trying to get the situation under control all over the Kingdom, to even notice Cinder.

And of course, the panic she caused wasn't just in Vale, it also got to the other Kingdoms. Jacques himself mentions how even months later, some people still think Atlas caused the attack. In other words, Cinder effectively set the roots for a potential Great War II, which helps no one but Salem.

Pragmatism isn't tactics, it's also strategy. And it focuses on efficiency, based on prediction of the enemy, solving what problems are present, and being active. Cinder's plan fits all of that perfectly, both in the short term and the long term. Especially the long term.

3) Regarding Frieza, you're forgetting 2 things: A) He was afraid of Super Saiyans, and B) He was that powerful since he was born, he never had to put any effort to kill people or destroy planets.

Cue Goku not just going SSJ, but also beating the crap out of him to the point he did have to go all out. In simple words, Goku was literally Frieza's NIGHTMARE in flesh and bone, more than any other character.

It is not a matter of pride, it's a matter of fear.

4) Regarding Gilgamesh, from F/SN......you missed quite a lot of info there.

See, Gil in F/SN is already corrupted by the Grail, it's the reason he's that much of an asshole. The Grail has been corrupted since the 3rd Holy Grail War, in fact.

In Fate/EXTRA CCC, he's not corrupted by the Grail, and while he's still a prideful jerk who refuses to spend even 10% of his power on his enemies, 'he's a miles-better person. 'Far less insane, far less of an asshole. Granted, he still is willing to kill his Master (You) if you nag him too much early on when you haven't won his respect, but even then he's a much better person than his corrupted F/SN version.

And then there's Caster Gilgamesh, Gil after the Epic, who is nuch a nice person and king that his people loved him to the point that it is one of his Noble Phantasms.

Gilgamesh is prideful, yes, but you need to broad your knowledge of him.