Talk:Summer Rose/@comment-28171999-20180724133445/@comment-25936766-20181011220316

"Yang said that she was often on missions, that means that she was did take time to spend with her daughters"

No it doesn't. You need to either apply some alien reasoning, or have very low standards for "taking time to spend with children", for that sentence to even imply any of that. Especially since Yang also said Summer took missions around the Kingdom, which naturally goes way beyond Vale and Patch, and can take days.

"but that in itself doesn't mean that she didn't go often in missions which is also something that Yang said."

I cannot tell if you're being redundant for emphasis or because you have no idea what you're trying to say anymore. Because that entire paragraph is read as:

"Yang said she was often on missions, meaning she took time to spend with her kids, which also means she often went on missions, which is something Yang also said.". See how superfluous that is?

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"Also her caring for her family doesn't mean at all that she didn't care for others,"

Doesn't mean she did either. The whole thing is a Schrodinger's Cat. You cannot say she did because there's no proof at all that she did. You can assume but there's nothing to confirm, so it's just spitballing.

"Plus Summer was described as a very kind and idealistic woman"

Wrong. She was described as a good and likely-workaholic mother who suscribes to the Power of Friendship. The "idealistic" part is purely in your mind. Not even the "you sound like your mom" bit from Haven implies any idealism since even Salem thinks the same thing.

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"Cinder too isn't someone you can use as an example to demonstrate the importance of the ideals of working together"

Why not? She gaves us a better example of unity and teamwork than the heroes did in the entirety of Vol.1-3. She gathered allies by her own accord instead of being set-up and forced to work with others like Team RWBY was.

She never fought or complained about said allies either, even when they could've ditched her or betrayed her at some point like Adam. She barely even intimidated Roman once, and just Roman. And of course, she displayed very good teamwork with Merc and Em against Amber.

And her entire plan depended entirely on everyone doing their part, trusting 100% that they were capable of doing their roles, with the plan being capable of failing hard if any of them, especially Roman and Emerald, failed. It was a plan based entirely on trust.