Talk:Cinder Fall/@comment-2003:45:5D63:2B00:D083:1E5:E2EE:C9E7-20180131213705

I am thinking that we will see more of Cinder...but this defeat will have severe Repercussions, like the defeat from the hands of Ruby.

So she will lose more of her humanity than she already has. She was already vulnerable to Ruby´s Power before she has the Grim arm. This means the Glove which she used to steal Ambers Power change something within her (Mark on the Back).

If i´m right than Raven was not hurt by Ruby´s use of her Silver Eyes as Cinder was in Haven, and as a Maiden you could think so (if you remember Salems words that the new Power, Maiden Power, in Cinder brings with it a crippling weakness). So She was only affected because of the Grim-parts within her.