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KNN005 wrote: That's what I keep saying. How serious were they about catching Salem's minions if they didn't even compare and contrast Qrow's info in the field with what was happening in town? Robberies. Tukson's death. Any eye witnesses of who went into his bookstore before he died. Any of street camera surveillance around his stores if there were no eye-witnesses.

If it's implied Qrow found Salem and was spying on them and gathering info before he saved Amber. Let's say months before. Why didn't he put two and two together when he got back to Beacon? He just found out Salem had minions heading to Vale. Then he stops Cinder from stealing all of Amber's power. She hides her face. But he can tell she's a woman, dark hair, fire magic, and working with two others. A boy and girl. One brown skin one a cyborg. Months later he gets to Vale's Beacon and meets up with Oz's faction. That would've been a perfect time to tell them a full description of who he spied on before Amber's attack, and who he says attacked Amber. When they say "we know Salem's minions are already here." He says "Gimmie a list of those transfering in for the Vytal Fest. They may be amongst those transfers."

Even if Leo BS'd up a series of fake credentials for Merc, Cinder, and Em. All three of them together, in the same room and syncing up with the preps he saw attack Amber would've been a red flag. All Qrow and Oz's faction had to do was put the preps' description in a search amongst the staff and visitors for Vytal Fest and question the names that came up. And as long as Qrow was there for the questioning, he would see the features of the preps match with the 3 he stopped.

The means were there to stop Cinder. But the adult dropped the ball so hard.

EDIT: The second Qrow sent a message saying that Salem was sending out minions, Oz should've asked "Who? How many? Tell me descriptions if any?" And we know Qrow saw them because Merc shit himself when he saw Qrow arguing with Winter. That means he knew if he (Qrow) saw them there Qrow would blow the whistle on them. So Leo's tampering or not, all the adults needed was to sit down, and sync up all their info on Salem with each other and look for a good 10 people who fit that description. The only person they shouldn't have to worry about was Neo who no one knew, and Roman who was caught. There were apparently no recordings or witnesses that could say something about Tukson's death.

We don't know if Qrow found Salem's base or anything, we only saw his message saying that the Queen had pawns. Notice that he didn't send the message until months after Amber had already lost her powers, and Amber was probably already in the Vault. So unless there is a continuity mistake (remember that the Maidens were mot even thought of until after Volume 2) Qrow was only confirming that the people that stole Amber's powers were working for Salem (even though it was kind of obvious), or maybe the message meant something else, or maybe he meant different pawns to the ones he saw or whatever.

Qrow probably didn't have time to take a good look at the people who stole the powers, he probably didn't even notice that Mercury had robotic legs.

And remember, the Vytal Festival is the time when a kingdom opens its gates to the whole world, not only to students. They had no reason to assume that the people that attacked Amber would infiltrare the kingdom as students. And even if the idea crossed their heads, they would probably dismiss it because of how ridiculous it sounded.