Board Thread:Off Topic/@comment-74.101.236.56-20170321065847/@comment-68.194.1.35-20170404045348

On the Yang front what I really think it comes down to is that the writers just see Yang in a totally different way then what they present her as in the actual show. Like the commentary and the backs of some of the DVD's both describe Yang as a "party girl". Since I watched the whole series before I heard both of those I was confused, and at no point in the show could I call Yang a party girl. Sure the yellow Trailer shows her walk into a nightclub, but that is to obtain information. Plus when she is at the school dance she just stands there on the balcony, alone. In the commentary tracks Miles says: "She is a very popular, very loved person in the World of Remnant" Barbara says she is "so confident and so loved by every body" Considering her whole character "struggle" is her being sad that her that her mom abandoned her and her dad refusing to talk about it. I don't consider that to make someone "confident:. Plus she is just some random high school girl (Or college girl, since Beacon is more like college) who lives on a small island and only has four friends who we only see once and never encounter again. That doesn't really translate to being "loved by everybody". Fortunately her Volume 4 development seems to have her develop more realistically, so they seem to be getting better on Yang's whole portrayal.

First of all, I never heard of the theory that the silver eyed people have Grimm literally inside them. Next maybe Cinder's thing WAS some sort of initiation? I mean Ozpin sent Team RWBY to Mountain Glenn despite being outnumbered, way over their heads, and having little knowledge of what is going on. And since it is implied by the opening narration and some other things that Salem and Ozpin are both way older than anyone else. It is possible that they use the same training methods. Maybe.

Yeah that was just me doing some research. Because my whole Mercury messing up by chasing Ruby closer to Pyrrha and thus being able to save her wouldn't really mean anything if I didn't know what door she came out of. I just assumed it was closer to Pyrrha, or on the ground floor because that is what made sense. On a closer look I realized she some how got to the top floor. That just opens a bigger can of worms, like: A) Ruby making it to the top floor during the cuts to Pyrrha and Penny fighting can be added to the "Interesting and Plot Relevant Things That We Don't Get To See List" B) How Ruby managed to get to the top floor, down to save Pyrrha so quick. And if you say her speed semblance, I would like to remind you that she wouldn't have had to use her speed semblance at all if she didn't just spontaneously run up to the top floor. C) Also what about that force field that prevents the crowd from getting hit by the competitors attacks. Where did that go? How did Ruby or Jaune manage to get thru it? It can't be a one way force field because then someone might fall thru it and get hurt in the arena. If Cinder's virus shut it down then that would be another thing she did that messed up her plan.

As I said before, I would really like to see the RWBY uncut where we get to see all of the things that they ended up skipping. Or at least make a whole volume dedicated to treading the old ground or something.

Yeah... I like Port's whole discussion with Weiss. (It was my favorite character part of Volume 1) But it, and all of Weiss' lessons has some problems with them. For example:

Look at the scene where Weiss saved Ruby from the Death Stalker. Leaving out the MANY flaws with that whole scene, Weiss says: "If you stop trying to show off, then I'll be... nicer" But in the next episode she is constantly giving Ruby shit for being unprepared and irresponsible. So since she is technically not showing off, you don't have to be nice to her anymore?

As for Port's talk, he says: "Be not the best leader but the best PERSON you can be." After that she is shown to be nicer to Ruby in that episode and episodes following it, which is good. But when Sun shows up it reveals that she is still a bitch to him and all Faunus in general. So why didn't she apply that lesson to the Faunus? Does she think that she doesn't have to be the best person she can be around them because Weiss doesn't see them as people?

Finally at the end of Volume 1 Weiss finally reconciles with Blake. The event which causes her to reach this epiphany is... uh going door to door for 12 hours looking for Blake? "Nearly 2 days and you've given me nothing but small talk and weird looks." Sun Wukong. OK. So Blake was gone for 2 days and Weiss has apparently only been searching for a quarter of that time. So... What was she doing for the rest of those 36 hours? And how did it make her change her attitude towards Blake?

Then Volume 2 rolls around and Weiss isn't the slightest bit racist towards Blake or the Faunus though she was still distrusting of Sun by the end of Volume 1. It kind of makes me believe that the writers so to speak "killed off" Volume 1 Weiss and replaced her with... someone else. Someone with some of the same qualities as the original Weiss, but not really, and had some other ones added on artificially to make her more traditionally likeable. That seems kind of ... DISGUSTING to me. They should have just let her be the Hate Sink of Team RWBY. Whatever lesson Weiss learns she seems to only apply to the given person or situation that made her learn the lesson in the first place, and doesn't really grow much after she does that. At least she doesn't seem to grow realistically or even believably

Not to mention in Volume 1 she was all like: "The White Fang and the Faunus have been killing my family and friends so I hate them." Then in Volume 2 where they are discussing their motivations for becoming Hunters. Weiss says something like "My family's company has been real mean towards the faunus guys so I am going to fix it (In the most unrelated and stupid way possible.)" It is that kind of shit. This kind of shit turns me off to her entire character. What makes her go from the sensible and believable "I hate the faunus because they killed my family and friends " to the ridiculous and tacked on "those faunus who killed my family and friends, maybe they got a point, they dindu nuffin." How did she arrive at that? I get that her hating all faunus because of that is bad, but you can't just have a character turn away from such hate because: racism is wrong and Weiss shouldn't did wrong actions. But we can't make people in real life nor in fiction do that, it has to happen organically.

My point of them showing Team RWBY voting who to pick for the doubles round is that if they did so then it would just be a little fun. They could have wrote some good jokes on some hilarious way RWBY could have picked who gets to move on. Ruby might want to do it in some stupid and naïve way like spinning a bottle, or flipping a coin, a name out of a hat, etc. Weiss' big ego could have rigged the game or changed the rules so she could move on. Blake could've rolled her eyes and facepalmed over the whole thing. And Yang (being as she is the Team Mom) would resolve everything so everyone becomes mostly satisfied. Plus it could have filled in the exposition Port and Oobleck gave about how the tournament works in a less ham-fisted and crowbarred in way than simply interrupting the tournament to explain it to the audience watching at home who should already know how the tournament works since one apparently happens every year.

I am not going into depth in explaining how the Yang and Weiss vs. Flynn and Neon round could have been better thought out because you or I could both come up with better ways of it going down. So I am not going to waste time with it.

It's a pretty big slip up in the writing because now I have to question EVEN MORE what happened between seasons. With that they just implied another super important, super relevant to the world, Grimm Invasion happened off screen that Team RWBY was somehow involved in, by total accident. It is weird even if she did say criminals because I don't recall Team JNPR ever fighting Roman or the White Fang anyways, so that still doesn't make any sense.

THAT. IS. LITERALLY. RETARDED. (Not figuratively, but literally) That makes things even more vague and bullshitty. Before we had an approximate amount of time in order to determine what could and couldn't have happened between Volumes 3 and 4. Now we can't do that because they have now blurred the line so badly that we can no longer be able to pick apart their bullshit. Real writers don't correct their mistakes, they take their mistakes and roll with them.

Ditto. When they were shown fighting the Geist in the beginning of Volume 4 I was excited because I thought they were gonna do something like in Avatar. In that, our team goes on a long journey fighting Grimmm and saving towns along the way to some faraway place. Kind of like they are actual wandering adventurer heroes. But we only ended up seeing that happen ONCE. And the rest of their arc is them poking around abandoned or destroyed towns. So now I have to imply that they've been doing this for the past 6-8 months. Ooh I'm sorry, for the past unspecific amount of time. Also It cut out all of the angsty bits of Yang recovering from being a cripple.

OK fine. Aura is like your shield in Timeshift. As in, you are pretty much OK as long as you have it, but once its gone, BAM! Instant pain. (It still ruins a lot of fights in my opinion, and is hardly ever depleted in Volumes 1 and 2) Also the magic system is confusing. So Dust is not magic, but you need Dust to do magic. But some other people DON'T use Dust to do magic. Your semblance is also magic because you can use Dust with you semblance, and Dust is needed to do magic. And you semblance is attached to your soul, so I guess you soul is also magic. just ugh...

That doesn't really make any sense. Witches and Communists didn't start the Witch Hunts and Red Scare. It was the Puritans and paranoid people like Joe McCarthy who started those things. (Although I hear a theory on how everyone involved in the Witch Trials was driven mad by ergot poisoning.) If Salem herself went out and said certain people were her lackeys, then she would suffer tremendous risk to herself, given as to how she could release this information without the kingdoms governments tracing them back to their source and raiding the place. I mean hell look at what 4chan trolls did to Shia Labeouf. If the kingdoms were to release knowledge of her and her lackeys. It wouldn't be her or her lackeys starting stuff like that, it would be people trying to swindle everyone's money by using paranoia mongering. Probably somebody from within on of the kingdoms.

Yeah, Beacon and equivalent schools really are more like college than high school. I think that the reason everyone is around 17 is so people cam draw porn of the characters and have it be legal, that way people looking for porn see these characters and get tempted to watch the show. (Depending on where you live in the USA, sexual consent age varies between 16 and 18.) Even though rule 34 exists and people are gonna draw porn of anything regardless of age. To me the around 17 thing just allows fans another way of marketing for the show in that regards.

I know the part of CFVY wrecking shit is just Monty wanting cool fights. The problem is Miles and Kerry don't really give a reason for them being nerfed. Like when Team RWBY destroys Roman's mech, plus several more on the train. Then they fail to take on one even when greatly outnumbering it, and Velvet has to come save the day with recycled animation. Winter explains that the ones Ruby fought were just flawed prototypes and not the finished model. They give no real narrative reason as to why CFVY and Coco's Gatling gun suddenly just blows goats. And it will be kind of be hard to explain why.

Huh. I thought they were just doves which Winter killed because... rich people enjoy hunting or something. I'm saying they are tiny and grow to be GINORMOUS. So that makes me think the Goliaths were "born" tiny as well. Also they have been apparently killing people for hundreds of years, somebody should have just followed them back and killed them when they were still kind of tiny. I mean they just walk around in circles at Mountain Glenn, they can't be to hard to find. (And yes I don't know whether or not they walked in obvious circles when they were "younger", that is just speculation.)

Yeah. We did get that information that nobody knows much about Grimmm. We are also given information of how they are hard to keep in captivity, yet Professor Port and the White Fang can apparently imprison/transport them with no problem. Also it is still unclear on whether the Grimmm are "born" or merely transported thru the black pools. Maybe the reason the appear to reform thru the black pool because it is the type of teleportation where you are broken up in one place and reassembled in another place.

OK. But she ended up destroying the CCT with the dragon anyways. I thought that one tower being destroyed took them all offline. So infecting it with the virus is kind of needless. Also if they were able to get some of Ironwood's prototype mechs, wouldn't it be simpler to just infect some of them with the virus along with the robots directly? And thus not risking the time it takes for someone to discover the virus slowly spreading. As for Ironwood's ship: maybe he just has higher security in place because he is so important. His votes apparently mean more than others so maybe his security system is better than others.

Good, glad we understand. I'm guessing that Mercury getting his leg broken by Yang was what was SUPPOSED to cause the Grimm to come. But since it didn't do that and it didn't really end up mattering that much. Penny getting killed was just a Plan B of sorts.

Maybe they weren't responsible in Volumes 1 and 2, but now they are. They said they were writing out a lot of detailed moves and the progression of the fights. Plus in a letter Shane wrote he said he was forced to sit at a board meeting where they would debate each fight shot for shot. That is why the tournament fights sucked so much. Plus characters in the fights spend so much time mugging to the camera and standing still. But Shane said that the animations for the fights in Volume 3 ended up being "top notch" so he doesn't get out scott free either.

That makes sense even if it was poorly conveyed. Also they should just get a videogame console like Yang if they want something to do between bouts of trying to collapse civilized society.

Yeah I guess your right. The problem is now all we can just do is HOPE that the show gets better as time goes on. And since from minute 1 I have been thinking "Okay, when is this gonna start getting really good?" I kind of expect me and a lot of other people are just gonna burn out as the show goes on instead, even if it does get really good.