Board Thread:Speculation House/@comment-27143816-20160216033644/@comment-14061097-20160605032300

Arkantos95 wrote: The Devil&#039;s Advocate WP wrote: Arkantos95 wrote: When you use facts to back up an argument, it's no longer speculation, it's debating. Using facts instead of baseless assumptions is exactly what strengthens an argument.

If you can't take point-for-point criticism of baseless speculation vs an argument using established facts from the canon, you should leave, not me. You seem to be confused. Both of us are using facts, but that does not mean neither of us are speculating. A fact would be that Amber was shot in the chest with an obsidian-like arrow and pierced the glass door of the pod. Speculation is you saying Amber couldn't be revived by a broken pod and that she would have drowned in her own blood. The difference between me and you is that you seem to think or at least act as if the latter is a fact or as good as one. I refuted a number of the points you made previously, or at least gave completely reasonable rebuttals, yet you come right back with the same exact arguments as if that didn't happen insisting that only your understanding of things is logical. The assumptions you make to get to your ultimate conclusions are considerable, yet you don't even seem to think those are assumptions.

Joshua.roy.77 wrote: I'm with Arkantos on this. Obviously me and him are in a bit of a disagreement on the subject but the point of this thread as of late is to debate those disagreements, not tell someone that they should leave because they disagree with you. I'm not saying people should leave because they do not like one person's speculation, but if they are going to spend their time in a speculation thread asserting that the speculation of others is wrong because their speculation is better than they don't really belong. Unlike Arkantos, I'm not so arrogant as to believe I know what is going to happen in the series or know what is possible within the series. Seriously, read that quote again. The sheer galling arrogance on display is suffocating. I'm not saying that I know what's going to happen, I'm saying that I know what I saw and what the facts of the matter are. One of them is that all signs shown thus far point to Amber and Pyrrha being very, very dead.

Second, explain to me exactly how Amber would get out of the elevator shaft, because if she's the dominant one like your theory suggests, that mean using Pyrrha's Semblance is a no-go. The problem for me is whatever happens whether she comes back or stay's dead either way there will be people who aren't satisfied and bitch about it. I've pointed out already that if I feel I've been proven wrong by the show then I'll accept it, and if I'm proven right then I won't gloat I'd rather just discuss how it would affect the future of the show just like any other event.