Board Thread:Speculation House/@comment-97.117.77.25-20180117230750/@comment-2001:8A0:D201:ED01:B06C:45ED:1A19:833C-20180314232257

I really didn't intend to respond to this, but eventually someone else will appear with all the same arguments, so I'll respond to the OP (and the arguments used by them and others later), which shouldn't be necessary, since the writers have already confirmed Ruby's Tai's daughter. I want to make sure I covered almost everything (even things that others have pointed out), so it's going to be long.

First, the arguments you use against Tai being Ruby's father shouldn't be applicable to Qrow-Ruby if that's what you're defending. So, this invalidates arguments 1, 6 and 7.

1 - Ruby's last name isn't Tai's, but it isn't Qrow's either. BTW, why are we assuming the rule in RWBYverse is to name your child after the father? Even in the west, that's not the rule in all countries, for example, Spanish and Portuguese speaking countries usually give one name of the father and one of the mother. While that doesn't happen in RWBY, for all we know the rule is flip a coin to decide the last name, which makes a little more sense than to name a child after the father all the time (still not as much as giving one name of each, though). Or maybe the rule is to name after the mother, and Yang was the exception because her mother abandoned her and Tai was like "I'm not naming you after that b-"

6 - Assumptions about the song aside, if Ruby's Qrow's father, he didn't respect Summer's wishes either. So, why is it any different that Tai didn't. What makes you think Qrow taught Ruby behind his back and against his will. He obviously didn't. Not only Tai would have kicked his ass, considering Yang was already being trained by him, it would make no sense for Ruby not to be trained. Usually, not a good thing to deny a child something you're giving to their sibling.

7 - Ruby doesn't look like Tai can't be used because Ruby doesn't look like Qrow either. Also, for Ruby's hair being darker than Summer's - we have barely seen Summer. Hair can look darker or lighter than it is in certain circumstances. But I don't even think that was it, RT has been changing some colors for a while and that was probably accidental.

Now for the other points:

2 - There is no reason to believe there are consequences for leaving the tribe, especially when I'm guessing the risk of such task would be way too high for the nothing that would be the reward. Also, if Qrow was Ruby's dad, no way in hell Raven wouldn't know it.

3 - All signs point to Qrow was there when Yang and Ruby were growing up. Also, pretty crappy reason not to tell a child you're their parent.

4 - Again, no excuse not to tell someone you're their parent. Also, Salem's faction doesn't go after the family of people, if they did, Yang and Ruby would still be in danger anyway, because he clearly cares about them and is more than willing to die for them, so that lie would be pointless.

5 - We don't know how close Tai and Summer were. For all we know Raven, Summer and Tai were all a big happy family. Then, someone decided to compare them to team JNPR. I'm sorry, but how can you think that is an argument? 1) They are nothing like the STRQ, and yes, chibi Tai is similar to v1-2 Jaune, but real Tai can't be anything like that, because that guy could never get a Raven, not even in his wildest dreams and if they were the last two people on Earth. 2) Ren and Nora have been friends since forever, Tai and Raven probably haven't. Also, Ren and Nora's relationship is like the tamest thing ever, if you had something in your eye during V4 finale, you would have missed the entire relationship. That doesn't seem to have been Tai-Raven's relationship at all, judging by Prof Port's comments.

Other points made:

- Qrow-Ruby has been more developed than Qrow-Yang and Yang-Tai has been more developed than Yang-Qrow. Well, he followed her, and clearly he had to be the one to do it, because she did it behind Tai's back (yes, revealing Haven was a target against Tai's wiches was a douchy move on Qrow's part, so was telling Yang about her mother). And yes, Tai should have gone with Yang to find Ruby, that is bad characterization on the writers' part, but that's what it is: bad writing. Also, he should have gone to Haven for both Yang and Ruby. Also, even you do realize there are uncles and nieces closer than others, right? Qrow trained Ruby, so it's natural that they are closer than him and Yang. Also, Ruby being more shy than Yang and younger, it's natural she's still more attached to those she already knows.

- Tai protested just a little when Qrow told him he wanted to talk to Ruby in the end of V3. But he still protested. If he wasn't Ruby's father, he wouldn't have the right to do that and Qrow wouldn't have had to ask please.

Now for the point of Qrow being Ruby's father:

Build Salem's threat --> you know a better solution, show Salem actually do something horrible. Or explore the lives already ruined by her, which doesn't require Qrow to be Ruby's father, especially when she already lost a mother to Salem (probably).

Show everyone makes sacrifices --> Qrow lost 2 team members because of Salem, including his sister.

Bonus round:

Raven would definitely use that to make Yang against Qrow.

Yang clearly remembers Tai and Summer together, so much so that she thought she was her mother until being told otherwise.