Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-25266931-20170126040344/@comment-25266931-20170208235753

@Arkantos: I have no idea why Salem is mad at Oz. But how Cinder spoke of what Salem told her about Oz seems she has a strong distaste for Oz. And couple that with how she keep saying "send your best it won't matter I'll still win" in the narrations and then couple that with how she spoke at the end of Season 3. All of it seems like she hates Oz the same way Adam hates Blake now. Not as lover most likely, but more like Oz betrayed her trust in some way. Maybe he abandoned ideals he used to have. And she thinks he's arrogant enough that maybe he sees himself as a god when in fact she's closer to it. IDK, but that's the vibe I get. She's pissed at Oz and if she had Oz dead at her feet she'd be happy beyond just getting rid of a rival.

@MiniDaggers: I think it was Someone who said something like "even if 1-3 was the prologue it's still been a long time wait for answers". Either him or it was me who said that. Either way, that's how I feel. I don't mind waiting. But I see each season (since the episodes are so short) like movie. If you watch all the episodes of a episode in order back to back its like watching a movie. Yet one thing never changes at the end of all the seasons. THEY NEVER EVEN COME CLOSE TO GETTING TO THE HEART OF THE PROBLEM. I don't mean the heroes beating the villains. I mean the WHY of what we're seeing. Qrow said "Not much is known about [Salem] and honestly it doesn't really matter." THAT THAT BIGGEST LOAD OF BS I HAVE HEARD IN ANY ANIME SINCE AIZEN IN BLEACH SAID HE MANIPULATED ICHIGO'S ENTIRE LIFE FROM BIRTH! Of course who Salem is and why matters. Because if you know your enemy you know how to kill them. Know thy enemy. As long as you just play defense and try to stop what she does because all you know is the WHAT then you will never truly strike at the heart of the matter. Blade said it best in the first movie "If you understand the nature of something, you understand what it's capable of." A snitch is a worm who will tell anyone anything to save their own skin or try to gain something. A killer will kill as soon as they think they can get away with it. A dictator will rule over people and manipulate the people's ignorance. That's what they are. WHAT IS SALEM?

The heroes have to ask these questions so they can stop trying to hit her and hit her. Stop figuring out where to stop her and strike her at her base. And by finding out who she was you can deduce where she headed and where she is now. And what she's doing there. A criminal returns to the scene of the crime out of curiousity and vainity. 1) because they want to see what the cops have figured out 2) because they get off on seeing people stumped by their crime 3) because they like the thrill of being so close and yet still free as a bird.

Salem has manipulated an entire planet into fighting each other. And talked a select few into joining her mad schemes. So is it really so wrong to go ahead and say what it is we're seeing here? What is this? Is it domination? Is it destruction? Is it revenge for how she was treated pre her transformation via Grimm? Is she a left over god that didn't leave Remnant? Is she trying to get the gods to return by getting their attention by wrecking their world ala FINAL FANTASY 13 style? WHAT THE FUCK?! I just want to know! I have pondered this since the first episode I heard her voice. Since the first time Cinder showed up. Since the day it was clear Cinder worked with Salem. I'm tired. I want at least a few answers.