Board Thread:Speculation House/@comment-4830106-20141010002549/@comment-25091485-20141011004348

MetallicArcher wrote: Well, for one, Ruby's fall from the Nevermore wasn't quite the same as her fall into the hole in this ep.

Her fall from the Nevermore was cut mid air by Jaune and then she jumped off the tree branch to join Yang. There is also the whole psychological aspect: she had been intending to jump from the Nevermore, against here where the ground just collapsed under her and she barely managed to save her dog (anyone who has a pet will understand the panic the idea of it falling into a dark of doom like that can give you).

As for Sun and Penny taking down the goons easily. Sun, while he too uses a pole arm, his fighting style seems to be largely unarmed, given he delayed deploying his staff up until he was effectively surrounded. And Penny is a combat robot and she didn't really engage in hand.to-hand with any of them, she used the swords always. I think that being hit in the air with a speeding projectile of Jaune's weight would be possibly a lot more painful. But there are other examples of Ruby's physical resilience: Getting whacked by a deathstalker or taking a direct hit from Roman's melodic cudgel, being almost blown of the roof and still being able to get up.

Definitely valid. Though one of sun's backhand strike was enough to send the mook flying and Ruby's mook didn't even flinch.

I think the key issue would probably be psychological and plot reasons...

That being said, there are are some differences in WF mooks we over looked, between here and episode 16. '''These mooks don't have sleeves, wear gloves and shin armor. does that make them more badass :P ? (ok, i was joking.) '''