Board Thread:Speculation House/@comment-4830106-20151116021418/@comment-27121183-20151122055234

-- I'd feel pretty letdown if the big bad was in fact Cinder. There's a reason higher ups stay away from the fray.

-- I've always had the feeling that Raven may be running with the other side, or is under very deep cover.

-- I also think Autumn could be a second name for someone, like maybe a person who went through a change so drastic it changed who they were. Maybe a not-so-well Summer, or a Summer who fell to the other side. It would explain why 'Summer Rose' was memorialized on that cliff with a headstone, even if the person was still alive. (And then the song, Red Like Roses, Pt. II, where Summer's speaking, and she tells Ruby, 'Pretty please don't do what I did, I don't want you to waste your life in vain.' I figure if she were doing heroic things like defending people from Grimm, she wouldn't have said that, so I think she was out doing other missions, maybe missions that were in a very grey area, or possibly she got too close to the enemy and realized they were the ones in the right. So, she's warning Ruby to not go down the same path.)

-- Maybe Cinder is the one who convinced her she was fighting for the wrong side, thus, 'Infiltrator ... responsible for Autumn's condition.

-- Sorry/not sorry. Bored at work.