Talk:Qrow Branwen/Behind the Scenes/@comment-27082610-20180213125318/@comment-25936766-20180213204614

Except you're putting "Theme" and "Allusion Theme" in the same basket when they're not the same.

CRDL does not allude to birds. They are named after birds and have birds for symbols, but don't allude to them. Case in point: Cardin Winchester -> The Cardinal of Winchester Henry Beaufort. Who last time I checked, was not a bird.

Actually, we can't say shit about CRDL because only Cardin's allusion is confirmed. We cannot say "CRDL's theme is X" factually because we don't know shit.

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And when it comes to Qrow and Summer and Raven, it's the same as CRDL. In fact, even worse.

1) Yes, they have similarities. Both Munnin and Qrow gather info for Odin and Ozpin, yes. Yes, both are crows/ravens. And on a far more petty level, both were given an ability by them. But if we went by similarities alone, then:

>Yang would be Rapunzel instead of Goldilocks.

>Nora would be freaking Pinkie Pie instead of Thor.

>Adam would be Vergil instead of the Beast.

>Roman would be Alexander DeLarge instead of Candlewick/Lampwick.

Alas, those are not the case, in spite of similarities. So talking as if "similarities prove it right" is just fallacious logic.

2) You say "STRQ's allusion theme is poems". And I ask you this: Where was it said all of them alluded to poems? When, ever, has Tai even referenced any poem whatsoever?

Summer, we don't know shit and haven't seen shit aside from "thus kindly I scatter" and a pic that showed us she was a palette swap of Ruby. Taiyang, never seen any poem references. Raven, at best only has Qrow's reference to Munnin's poem.

So, we cannot guess their allusion theme either. Raven has far less similarities to Huggin than Qrow has to Munnin, and nothing about Summer and Tai says "birds" for us to guess anything. Meanwhile, Tai has nothing to do with poems so far, so we can't say "poems" either.

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So, overall, the conclusion is obvious:

"Qrow alludes to Munnin" is pure speculation, and so is "STRQ's Team Theme is Poems". Now, "Qrow references Munnin", as it is now, is much better, but that's how it should've been from the start.

Honestly, it's the 2nd time this kind of shit happens with Qrow. I know 3rd time's the charm but can we please not get to that point? The 1st time was already enough to make the Wiki a bit of a laughing stock.

As for "more than 1 allusion", IIRC ToonRadio said that the CRWBY did confirm in a commentary that everyone only had 1 allusion, but could "stand for" another character in regard to someone else's allusion.

In this case, Ozpin is the Wizard of Oz, but stands for Odin in regards to Qrow's Munnin (if we follow that idea).