Talk:Goliath/@comment-144.13.179.96-20151023225801/@comment-24.104.77.242-20151028220738

Certainly not more than Phantom was. If you'll note, I removed ABRN and JNPR from the lineup and only included two teachers (Phantom said just one would take SEVERAL + 5 teams + Penny). Ozpin's not a "teacher" by the way.

Given that fact that Vale doesn't want to even try to tussle with even one of these things despite that they have more than enough (Huntsmen) manpower, Goliath's are at least this strong. And FYI, being able to endure a battle versus eighteen people does not make a creature a god, no matter how powerful those people are. A god can take on an entire galaxy without fear of even being scratched. We already are clear on the fact that even Atlas's soldiers and machines can't fight the truly powerful Grimm.