Board Thread:Speculation House/@comment-35941743-20190304195312/@comment-26018514-20190625171942

Megadracosaurus wrote: Indeed. Cinder was so far gone she was willing to become part Grimm. That alone should tell everyone how eager Cinder for power is to, as Raven said, turn herself into a monster.

Ultimately, some villains are redeemed and some aren’t. Cinder is one of the cases where she isn’t. There was a chance in V4... but then she doubled down. The problem is that fiction offers a window into another world, actions we are shown don't just matter; they are ALL that matters, when you show a character hedging their bets and doubling down, that really has to mean something if you aren't trying to lose the audience, this is why Ilia betraying Blake twice was a really shitty writing move... it should have mattered more or not wasted our time.