Board Thread:Speculation House/@comment-31953669-20180124124137/@comment-34633327-20180204060300

Christl Rosebud wrote: No, i don't believe she's dead, Anime Rule 101: if there's no body, then the character isen't dead, there just in a lot of pain!

Also Anime 101, not everyone leaves a body behind in their death, and not every death has the death actually shown. And Rooster Teeth 101, if they aren't a member of the Grif Family or Michael J Caboose, if they fall a massive height, and we don't see their body, they are most assuredly dead.





Nightmarrionette wrote: I doubt she's dead. She won't die unless Jaune kills her, Ruby kills her, or Salem kills her. She still has a role to play in the story as a main villain with a personal conflict with both Ruby and Jaune,

2. as well as a Maiden who still needs to retrieve their Relic (As Ozpin says she doesn't have the Relic from Beacon).

3. The only way I would have been convinced of her death is if we saw her Maiden powers transfer out of the pit to, let's say, Raven or pretty much anyone.

1. Uh.... No, she doesn't have a role anymore. Her role for the past two volumes has basically been train her powers, give RNJR a reason to go to Mistral, and be an enormous bitch. Jaune and Ruby having a conflict with her is not justification to let her live, seeing as plenty of people irl go their entire lives without getting revenge, or are robbed of the chance before they can.

If anything, Cinder being dead before they can get resolution is the better plot, as it can actually show Ruby and Jaune struggling to get the proper closure, and have to move on in other ways.

2. That role can be fulfilled by anyone with the Maiden powers, not just Cinder.

3. We have no evidence to suggest what happened with the powers when Cinder killed Amber is the norm for Maiden Powers considering

A) They were transferred in an artificial manner

B) They were drawn to their other half

C) Said half was about 30 feet away from them.

Hell, there actually is a case that would state this is not the norm: Ozpin and Oscar. Ozpin and Oscar's link is basically the male equivalent of Maiden transference, which makes sense since the Maiden Powers were once Ozpin's power. The transfer is even described in a similar manner.

{Goodwitch: When a Maiden dies, her power leaves her body and seeks out a new host, ensuring that the seasons are never lost, and that no individual can hold on to that power forever.

Pyrrha: So, how does the power choose?

Goodwitch:  At first, the only thing that was certain was that the powers were specifically passed on to young women. But as time went on, it was discovered that the selection process was much more... intimate. As we understand it now, when a Maiden dies, the one who is in her final thoughts is the first candidate to inherit her power.

Qrow: Unless it's a dude or some old hag. Then the power goes to someone random, and our job gets a lot harder.

Pyrrha: Won't her power just transfer to the next host?

Ironwood: Under normal circumstances, yes. But this is a delicate situation. It's not uncommon for the last thoughts of the slain to be of their attacker. And to make matters worse, no one's seen the power split like this before. For all we know, it will seek out its other half. We can't transfer Amber's power to you, but we can give you what those powers are bound to.

Pyrrha: Her Aura.

Ozpin: Her life would become intertwined with yours.}

{Ozpin: We are in complete agreement on that matter, I promise you. Believe me, I wish this weren't the case. But as I've told you, our Aura, our souls are combined.}

{Ren: Which means that, whenever one of them dies, the power transfers to someone - a female - that they cared about?

Qrow: Whoever was in their thoughts last. Important distinction. Best option is someone we can trust. Regardless, their souls become combined, in a way.}

{Ozpin: For thousands of years, I've walked the surface of Remnant, living, dying, and reincarnating in the body of a like-minded soul. ...I am the combination of countless men who’ve spent their lives trying to protect the people of Remnant. With every rebirth, my soul is eventually merged with another and I am changed, but my memories stay with me.}

Oscar doesn't seem to remember a mass of power colliding with him, and his first time noticing something was up was when he looked in a mirror and Ozpin talked back. Plus, we never saw Ozpin transfer out of the Vault of Beacon Tower. So Cinder gaining Amber's power seems to be the Exception, not the norm.

73.Anon.52 wrote: KarpToEndAllKarps wrote:

Her backstory has a ton of holes and doesn't cover much at all, making it an odd place for her death.

I think she's dead, but won't be too surprised if she has a BS resurrection or at least a "true death"/harvested corpse scene.

They can easily explain her backstory post-mortem. They did the same in Red Vs. Blue for alot of the Freelancers, and for Felix. So yeah, she's probably dead unless they pull an asspull.

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