Board Thread:Speculation House/@comment-27143816-20160216033644/@comment-14909251-20160606210243

Sentry 616 wrote: It doesn't take long to bleed out.

Even if some entity made it out of the vault to ground level, they would be unarmed, in the middle of hundreds, maybe thousands of Grimm. The entity would also probably also be quite weak, confused, and/or disoriented.

Unprotected, unarmed, ridicously outnumbered, weakened, and alone. That would be the state of whatever entity you're describing. Some of these things could change, but even if something was created from Amber and Pyrrha, it would probably soon die. These are a lot of assumptions. As I see it, Pyrrha knew she was going to die or that at least her body would be killed and was already aware that her soul would live on so there is no reason for her to have been confused or disoriented. With Amber it would be different, but if we allow that any merging or subsuming of Pyrrha's Aura into Amber's would not occur immediately, then you would have at least one skilled huntress in full possession of her faculties occupying that body. Given Amber herself is a skilled huntress, I don't think Pyrrha would struggle to get her headmate sorted and focused on escaping and surviving.

When you consider what Lie Ren could do unarmed right when he started at Beacon, the idea that being unarmed is a serious impediment is misguided. They wouldn't have to kill every Grimm, but rather just kill or injure when necessary for defense in order to escape to a sufficiently safe distance away from Beacon. A single body alone would have an easier time of sneaking away than a group as well. Unless Grimm being able to sense negative emotion works like radar, there is no reason to suspect that Ambyrrha would not be able to stealthily sneak away. It should also be pointed out that they are literally in a combat academy so there may be some spare weapons if they were needed.

SomeoneYouUsedToKnow wrote:

Mmm....You know, you're right. We don't know if the arrow pierced her lungs. In fact....

If you look at her chest...you can see the arrow hit the pod's glass...but never actually touched her.

In fact, there are no signs of Amber having any injuries or any objects piercing her skin. On this point I disagree. If you look real closely you can see the arrow seems to pierce her chest. However, the entry seems to be in the upper right of her chest. That is definitely not piercing her heart unless human anatomy is different on Remnant or she has some genetic anomaly. It could have pierced her lung around the top, but the location is such that it is more of a guess. Again, if we assume the arrow was heated then it could have cauterized the wound anyway.

Regardless, I still disagree with the Ambyrrha theory. Because Pyrrha doesn't really have any part of Amber's soul, at most a tiny bit too small to make a difference. But who does? Cinder. So assuming she's alive, it would not be Ambyrrha, but Cimber.

If we assume the Silver Eyes of God "KOd" Cinder's consciousness, Amber could take over. Since she would have full Maiden powers, plus being outside, she has better chances to escape.

Cimber is plausible, though I don't really think it would work the way you suggest. We don't know how her power-sucking ability works, but if it doesn't drain Aura then the only reason Amber's Aura would be in Cinder is if the Aura transfer bound up the Maiden powers and Amber's Aura in such a way that they were dragged together into Cinder.

As to Pyrrha not having any part of Amber, my suggestion is that Pyrrha got a portion of Amber's Aura and when Amber was killed her remaining Aura went to link up with the portion in Pyrrha. Then Amber gets revived so when Pyrrha is incinerated, Amber's Aura goes right back to a now living body. In essence, the soul returns to the body upon it being revived, though in this case since it was in another living body that one had to be killed or destroyed for it to happen.

73.Anon.52 wrote: The last character I've seen like Ambyrra in a series was the demon/god that killed Fred in the buffy spinoff "Angel"... as I recall the character was pretty universally hated and just one of the bad decisions that lead up to the end of the series.

I admit to not knowing how other fans reacted, but Illyria was not a character I hated at all. Nothing I have looked at suggests this was considered a bad decision or that the character was "pretty universally hated" by fans. The show ended mainly because viewership kept dropping as it is the kind of niche drama that usually doesn't last with viewers and only degrades in quality when continued past a certain point. I think it ended pretty much where it should have ended.