Talk:Lie Ren/@comment-128.151.150.18-20170220171437/@comment-25936766-20170430123422

First of all, we saw him use his Semblance, and we saw his Semblance not only greying people out but making Grimm stop noticing them. We even saw how the Nuckelavee was about to hit Jaune, and after Ren Greyed him, the Nuckelavee stopped and looked around as if Jaune had vanished.

So his Semblance makes people invisible to Grimm. That much is obvious. How does it make them invisible, we do not know. It may just make them invisible to Grimm outright. Or it may make them Invisible by inhibiting their emotions, which is somewhat more debatable and brings it's own series of questions.

But what cannot be denied is that it simply makes one Invisible to Grimm. I don't care a single bit whether you want or don't want to believe that a Semblance could be so specific, that's what it's done, those are the facts.

And as such, it is complete bullshit to think that combining it with any sort of physical attack would allow one to pierce through someone's Aura. Especially when your only "explanation" for how it would allow this, is that "The Semblance involves getting his Aura into them".

For starters, it does not, because of their own Aura preventing this. Second of all, the very idea that it involves getting his Aura into them, IOW inside them, in complete disregard of their own Aura, is a complete assumption.

For all we know, he gets his Aura onto them like a blanket. For all we know he just passes his Aura (with the effect) the same way one would pass other kinds of energy on contact. Neither idea involves piercing through someone else's Aura to apply the effect, which also makes them far more likely.

So in the end, anon, you're still spitballing bullshit with no evidence to support it beyond more spitballing. If he performs a palm strike, or any sort of attack, with his Semblance, then the attack won't do anything more nor anything less than what it would normally do, because both things are completely unrelated and have nothing to connect.

Next time you want to criticize Grey, or anyone, just for saying that nothing would happen, try to come up with arguments that are more solid than water.