Talk:Ruby Rose/@comment-28171999-20180918210033/@comment-25936766-20180922155850

1) "Ruby can't control her genetics", dude that doesn't matter at all, not even the slightest bit. She still turned out, out of nowhere, to be part of a rare race with unique superpower that can even defeat ancient Grimm in a literal flash. Just because she didn't know it doesn't make it suddenly stop being a Mary Sue trait.

2) "Ruby being made team leader is because she's the main protagonist", that doesn't make it any better. And there are multiple main protagonists in fiction that are not the leaders of their teams.

3) "Lacking in CQC" doesn't really matter though. First of all, her "lack of hand-to-hand skills" doesn't null any of the other traits or magically make Ruby not a Mary Sue by itself. But if we're talking about CQC, we could add the fact that with just a single month of training, she managed to land a headbutt on Mercury, who is:

>Skilled at hand-to-hand combat.

>Trained to be an assassin, or at the very minimum as good as a Huntsman.

>Gave Yang, the Team RWBY member specialized in hand-to-hand, a good fight in V3 even without trying to win.

4) "Lacking training in the Silver Eyes" doesn't mean anything, since she still has those powers and has used them more than once, and her lack of training hasn't caused any problems for her so far.

5) Remaining naive so far is not a Mary Sue trait, nor does it make her not be a Mary Sue either. What is a Mary Sue trait, is how she has remained practically the same despite everything that's happened.