Board Thread:Administrative Requests/@comment-27394867-20160307022626/@comment-10337166-20160308070517

Yo, Old member of chat here, exile, loudmouth aussie, cheeky lad, all of the above and beyond.

Speaking as someone who's been a on and off member of chat for going on 3 years now to one extent or another, and having been apart of and hell contributing to that original draft for the removal of Nedz rights.

Firstly, I'd dispute the usage of that original draft of his removal as it's at this point, over 2 years old and the issues within have long since been resolved to one extent or another, at this point it's basically dredging up shit from the past which in all honesty is hardly relevant anymore. His promoting of utter was another mistake, as well and should b treated as such, however he has not repeated it showing he learnt from said mistake.

Secondly, I'd also dispute the IP related shit because it was from an entirely different wikia. Being from fanon, I've been told multiple times by multiple members of staff that "main doesn't involve itself with cross wikia issues. What our members do on other chat's isn't our problem, so long as they don't bring it here." Well, Nedz didn't bring it here, if those people wanted their problem solved they could have done it through official wikia channels or solved it in house. TL:DR wasn't relevant to main and I hardly see why you'd use something like this when it's been made clear many times your opinion on cross wikia issues.

Thirdly the issue with the user who would like to remain anonymous. That IMO is a big fuckup on Nedz part, she wasn't luring or entrapping something. In an online chat room, someones gender is hardly relevant unless they have an issue with someone using the wrong pronoun, you shouldn't be forced to be outed no matter what it isn't right, nor is it fair. For a place which puts forward so many claims of being welcoming and safe and all that other PC crap this is a massive oversight. With all the Chat Rp'ing that goes on here, i'm surprised anyone cares about who's what gender anymore but that's just me.

Fourthly; The chrono issue. I don't honestly know why this is being admitted as evidence against nedz. Everyone has shit days, being a mod you have shit days, staff are people too, and I don't have enough fingers or toes to count the number of times I've seen other staff members here do something similar. Being a mod on fanon, I can tell you staff are people to.

Fifthly; Basically, if you remove nedz you have a huge timezone gap where he used to be and that would be a crapshoot waiting to happen. There are people who would abuse this, and when your only options are users like DBD then I'd honestly be worried about my safety in chat should someone like that rise to power.

Sixthly; As someone from the fanon wiki (I know right we exist and stuff) I can honestly say nedz is one of the few staff members who has actually tried to work with us and solve issues we have with members of main. For that reason he has a lot of goodwill earned from me, despite my personal issues with him in the past, of which he is fully aware of and we have worked through. I don't know if mentioning fanon is relevant, but seeing as there are a number of users who go between the two, I think it is fair to mention.

I realize that due to my mainspace edit count my vote will most likely not be counted, however I feel as a long long standing member of the community, both of main and fanon, that I should be allowed to have an opinion on the matter. I believe that nedz has made mistakes, certainly, he needs to realize this and hand out some apologies to people. However much of what has been brought forward as evidence against him are things numerous other members of staff have done one way or another. Hell based on the stance put forward I could make a convincing case against most members of main staff given one night and a large pot of coffee. I personally have dealt with mistreatment from staff here, as have many other people.

Ergo my vote is against the removal of his rights, however he does need to take a long look at some of his past actions.

TL:DR he's done shit, so has everyone else.