Board Thread:Speculation House/@comment-31098022-20170218174614/@comment-69.138.248.186-20170405220831

Tyrian: I think Ren was intentionally aiming for Jaune's shield. It might have been a team move they worked on. Jaune doesn't have his shield up when Tyrian first comes behind them but has it in place after Ren calls his name. I meant that Tyrian might see Jaune as "the weak link" as he's the least trained fighter. That doesn't mean he can't see potential in him like the Hunter X Hunter comparison.

If Oscar is in the middle of talking to Ozpin he might not notice others approaching. He didn't know Hazel was there until Ozpin told him to be on his guard and he started looking around.

Yeah it's a shame but it could be part of her learning progress. None of the student started out perfect, even Pyrrha wasn't as perfect as everyone assumed. Come to think of it I don't think we ever saw her fight without her weapons although she could block with her arms.

I know, the lay out of the room looks similar to the Ruby/Qrow room. My point was that if their not all sharing a room there's more potential for them separating. Ruby might want to spend more time with Qrow after being separated from her team and family for so long. JNR had Ruby as part of their team but I got the impression she still felt a little like an outsider. Plus Jaune might want some space from Qrow. Not saying it will happen but there's still a chance for them to split up especially if WBY arrive.

Jaune meeting Lionheart/Watts: He might not approve of things Ozpin and his group have done but he at least knows most of those involved in the Maiden transfer. At this point he has no history with them and no reason to trust them either. I've seen someone else on this board try to argue that he'd be used by them but at this stage I see him being the most guarded. Unless Ozpin sees Leo has changed I don't see anyone else doubting him.

Eyes/Souls/Powers: Usually Jaune could trust his friends to handle themselves and he was the one in more danger. The only situation I can think of where one of his friends was in serious danger that could have triggered it was when Tyrain was going to sting Ruby. He might have just assumed Tyrian was going to take her alive since Tyrain never said he was there to kill her. (Interesting to note that if the eyes are related to the Semblances Jaune closed his eyes then.)

Nora was already rushing in to save Ren before Jaune could get to that point. Any danger they had in the Nuck fight involved others being around to help out and I'm not sure if trying saving Qrow would have triggered anything.

Of course Ruby's SEW powers only activated when Pyrrha was killed before her. I'm thinking Jaune's will when his friends are about to die because it makes the most sense from a writing standpoint. He feels useless, is the most eager to make friends, lost one already, and wants to be the hero. This would make that moment pretty powerful.

Aura: I know I was just saying what was the difference between an aura shield and a force field. Just because you can't feel the hit doesn't mean you wouldn't know you were hit. Jaune would still have his other senses. If Tyrian hit him from behind and Jaune had a force field protect him he would have heard either the impact or Tyrian bounce off/yell in pain. Although I think Jaune would probably have to be aware enough to make a forcefield unless his semblance works like Qrows' and just happens whether he wills it or not.

One: Yeah that's what I meant.

Qrow and Tai: I wouldn't put it past Tai knowing Glynda and Ironwood since Qrow suggested the "coolest team to ever graduate Beacon" would know everybody to some extent. Which I took to mean STRQ were all involved with Ozpin's mission at some point. If that was the case he'd know not just the people closest at Beacon but also the headmasters. Besides we know Tai has had some contact with Ironwood as he gives Yang the arm and Ironwood's message. Tai also alluded to "calling in favors" suggesting he does have some connections. But we haven't seen Tai really upset at anyone besides Qrow and even then he fondly mentions him and "Oz" in his story. I felt like Qrow still told Tai a lot, at least anything involved with his girls. Ozpin tried to get his students to call others to help him defend the tower. Whether he and Pyrrha died or not at that point he wasn't trying to endanger students. He certainly had nothing to do with Yang losing an arm or Ruby going into a coma. If Tai knows about the Relics (likely but not confirmed) he'd know why someone had to stay at the tower. That's probably the main job of all the headmasters.

I think Cinder was a little too in love with her powers at that point to rush after the Relic. She's smug up until the point Ruby unleashes her SEW power. We don't know what Cinder planned to do with the dragon but her prime objective seemed to be destroying the communication first. Cinder didn't think anyone could stop her especially after she just took out Ozpin.

I don't know if I'd say she seemed really powerful in the first episode since Glynda was giving her trouble. I got the impression she was supposed to be using Dust since the same effect happens there that happens when she changes her catsuit into a ball gown.

Nora: Ren and Nora would probably be more careful since they literally had no where else to go. Well at least Ren would normally be more careful (the food fight comes to mind and he seemed fine with that.) We see Cardin bully people in front of teachers twice and neither of those incidents are physical. Well sparring with Jaune wouldn't count. If Nora broke Cardin's legs on purpose it would be a bigger deal than overhearing him taunting others.

Ren: It's hard to guess what that look meant. Were they surprised even Pyrrha was getting mad? Did they think Jaune was part of a bad crowd? Either way neither seemed bothered when Jaune goes with Cardin at the Forever Forest.

Weiss: I think Weiss is mostly annoyed with the flirting because she assumed it's not sincere otherwise she didn't mind Jaune. Which is a great bit of irony because she's tried of people trying to date her because of her fame/wealth yet the first thing she does is try to use Pyrrha for her fame/skills. Meanwhile Jaune takes up a fake lady killer persona to try to be confident, which as Pyrrha points out isn't the real him. I love these comparisons between these three. I see it as Weiss not getting Jaune since he's not as skilled as them but I think she'd have to at least respect the fact Ozpin saw something in him. I don't think Weiss would forget Port telling her Ozpin makes good choices for the leaders.

Blake: Yep. That information was from RT not in the show. According to them Weiss only told JNPR because Blake said it was okay. Mentioned here under the Welcome to Beacon part in the volume 2 section with a link of Monty stating it. This implies Blake really trusts JNPR when she's super paranoid about her status as a Faunus. On screen I don't think she's said a word to Jaune but this level of trust suggests their at least close enough to be on good terms. Yang: Hard to say. Yang's interactions with JNPR have been brief, more than Blake but we don't really get much of an impression. At least with the boys and her.

Ruby: She might have been trying to change her plan since urging him to get help was going no where. Ruby seems to be trying to appeal to his duty as a leader and value for his friends to get him to do the right thing. Whether that's inspiring him to do the right thing or guilting him...I don't know. I'm not sure why she would think he could handle it himself when she previously tried so hard to get him admitted he needed help.

I give RT a little slack given everything their trying to do with the story but a couple lines relating to different members relationship would be amazing. I do get the impression the teams are close I just don't know how some of them interact. I don't watch Chibi so I wouldn't take anything there as canon but at least they all talk to each other.

Ozpin: He has a long history with Salem which seems like it would make them both ancient. Sacrifice has lyrics about ancient ways so I think this is probably likely.

It's also been pointed out to me that while Jaune was good enough in the match up he still didn't land a single hit. So he's skilled enough to defend at least.