Talk:Raven Branwen/@comment-29933641-20180124061135/@comment-26018514-20180124165037

1. Vernal was a sacrifice, that she wasn't intending to sacrifice her at that moment is irrelevant, her entire life was a sacrifice, an artifice that shifted the target on Raven's back onto Vernal.

2. Raven's tribe were bandits, their lifestyle necessitated the death of innocents, even those killed by Grimm afterwards are her fault. The only way that this would not be true is if the bandits were only extortionists, like a mafia offering "protection" money, and since she razed a village with Maiden powers we know that was not the case.