Board Thread:Episode Discussion/@comment-4141313-20190119003858/@comment-25936766-20190124172831

BlizzardDragon wrote:

Or, using RWBY as an example, how often did Sun forget about his gun-chuks despite needing ranged attacks? Just gonna point out, Sun's gunchuks are shotguns too. They are as useful to him as Adam's shotgun sheath is useful for him in terms of ranged effectiveness.

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Finally watched the episode. The title was too useless. I mean, sure, we "see red" definitely, but it's something quite small compared to the end of this David vs Goliath fight with the Mech.....or how our great heroes's attempts at crime would have made Cinder proud.

1) I like how Cordovin closed the missile box right as Ruby shot. She might be stupid but she's not stupid. In comparison everyone else whose name wasn't Ruby Rose was practically useless in this part of the fight. Truly, the might of Atlas is not to be underestimated.

....Well, except for the crew in the base. I know they were ordered to stand by, but they act more like they were watching a football game (btw, is full of Photoshop potential).

2) First he copies Blake's "run away without telling anyone anything or leaving any notes". Now he copies Weiss's "if Maria keeps flying this thing, we're going to die" reactions. At this rate, he'll be a one-man Team RWBY.

3) Pilot Boi is Farmboi's uncle. Oscar's amazing ship-landing skills run in the family. On a side-note, why did Qrow jump off the cliff if he was going to fly towards the forest? It's almost like he was "RUBY I'LL SAVE Y- oh wait, she's this way".

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4) You know, the cannon's weakpoint shows a rather big design issue. By getting hit by a bullet right inside the cannon while it's charging the shot, the whole Dust in it erupts and makes the cannon arm useless, and by extension makes the Mech useless.

Thing is, even Ruby looks tiny inside the cannon. And a tiny bullet was all that was needed to make the Dust burst out. So, what if a flying Grimm, like a Nevermore, ends up flying into the cannon while it's charging? With that size I bet even a Sphynx could get in.

Which would normally not be an issue since the Mech is an obvious Kaiju-killer....but then you consider how Titanosaurus at the end was accompanied by a whole murder.

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5) I admit, I almost vomited and just refused to watch when Ruby started that shitty, useless "wE ShOuLD bE wOrKinG TogEThEr" speech.

All Cordovin did was not let a bunch of randoms take a ship to Atlas, who Ironwood himself ordered to be locked down, no one in or out without his authority. And it was our heroes who decided as a Plan A to steal an airship in response to that.

And while Cordovin's response was total overkill and freaked out the people, in the end she was pretty much doing her job: Take care of criminals trying to steal an Atlas vehicle, and not let anyone enter Atlas without the General's authority.

Ruby's speech about "we shouldn't be doing this, we should be working together" is both too late and too cheap. Appealing to unity doesn't work after you've already knowingly broken the law without thinking of even a single alternative. Like, I don't know, have Weiss call her sister to see if they can get to Atlas legally?

And it's worse from a logical standpoint. Cordovin most likely has no idea what a Relic is, and the Relic is the only reason stealing an airship is even remotely justified. Ruby's "we only did this cause you didn't let us go to Atlas!" just sounds like bullshit from a brat.

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6) When the Dust bursted out, I was disappointed that there was only Ice, Earth and Lightning....but then I realized that it makes perfect sense. The Mech is designed to deal with big, slow aquatic Grimm. Fire and Wind would be useless, Earth would hit harder than Hardlight, and Gravity wouldn't be very effective because of buoyancy. Lightning, meanwhile, would always be effective, and freezing the water is a perfectly sensical tactic.

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7) I liked this half of the Adam fight - though Adam didn't do enough to recover from his loser status from Ep11 - but, the music was awful. I know what they were going for, but they should've just thrown a song in there instead.

Cool fights with awesome music was what RWBY was all about, and the fight was cool, so where's the awesome music, like in the Adam short with Lionized, or Yang's short with Ignite? That was all it needed.

8) Although there was one obvious fuck-up. At the start, when we see Blake and Yang on a splitscreen. It shows their right side meaning we see what's to their left. Seconds before that we saw that Blake was to Yang's left. But then we see the splitscreen, and there's nobody to Yang's left. Like, Blake just outright vanished on Yang's screen.

I got a picture of it, it wasn't hard. Though it would be spoilers, so it's gonna have to wait. Still, it's such a blatant fuck-up that there's no way it slipped through.

9) I seriously wonder how damn sharp Gambol Shroud's katana is, to pierce Adam so easily even with half the blade broken (Blake's half I mean). Also, forgot to notice, but, did Adam's Aura flicker to show it was down? I mean, I don't doubt it went down, he got hit by an Ovecharged Semblance-boosted punch to the face, but still.

10) I expected Yang and Blake to have more of a response after killing Adam. Especially Yang, since at least Blake has done terrorist stuff before and probably already killed people.

Sure, Blake inmediately starts crying and all, but it felt more like she was crying just from the sheer emotional intensity and for being finally free from Adam, instead of feeling sad over actually having killed someone with her own two hands. And Yang gives far less fucks about his death than Blake does.

I mean, sure, he was an asshole, but one would imagine that actually having blood on their hands for the first time (and not merely "throwing people off an explosive train", but right in their face) would've shocked them at least a bit. Like "oh crap...did I just kill someone? I'm a murderer now?" or something like that. At the very least show them with shocked eyes and looking at their bloodied blades.

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11) After watching this ep, I already know what's going to happen in the finale. Our heroes run back to the city and one way or another help take down Titanosaurus, which will most definitely involve Ruby blasting it with her Deus Eye Machina.

After saving the city, they think that now they deserve to be taken to Atlas, as a favor for, well, saving their asses. And Cordovin does just that: They are taken to Atlas.....under arrest because this was all their fault.