Board Thread:Speculation House/@comment-4830106-20141010002549/@comment-25308133-20141013094947

173.183.64.107 wrote: no because we don't know how dense vale is every where like look at Canada compared to japan for an example.

Agreed. As a Canadian it boggles my mind how densely packed some places are compared to my home. The city of Tokyo in Japan has roughly five million more people then my entire country. There's at least three more cities in China with comparable populations.

Vale is probably more like Canada then Japan, since they would have to feed themselves from within their own boarders. Even if they have a large fishing fleet (which is likely) they still need a large amount of space for farmland.

I seem to remember it mentioned by someone, Oobleck I think, that one of the reasons Mt Glenn failed is it lacked the natural border defenses that the rest of the kingdom had. That implies to me that there are large cliffs, canyons, rivers or such bordering the kingdom which is likely why the site was chosen. They sealed off the few access points and then early hunters more or less cleared the area of Grimm, likely a huge endeavor taking years, then patrolled the borders to make sure nothing too powerful or too numerous got in (we know there are some Grimm within the kingdom, from several references, most notably Yang's story to Blake about looking for her mother). After that the population slowly grew into the available space, until they started running out, thus the need for Mt Glenn.

Kudos to the above mapmakers.