Board Thread:Episode Discussion/@comment-34633327-20180112214926/@comment-24994749-20180114231219

MaxusFox23 wrote: Oh, and one more thing: Raven still has some cartridges left on her sheath after the fight. So I guess she can use them against Yang without risking having her identity as a Maiden exposed (only in the case Yang doesn't put two and two together). I do not think either of them wants to fight.

I think we might get the conversation that was hinted at in the V2 post credits scene.

That said, Yang didn't see Raven's aura go down. So Raven could knock her out with a discrete Maiden power blast that Yang can't tell apart from dust manipulation and BE DONE WITH IT.

XXMintshadeXx wrote:

- Someone pointed out that chunks of ice appear on Cinder before the wave of ice reaches those areas (notably, one appears over her heart before the wave of ice gets there), and they thus believe Raven froze Cinder from the inside out. Thoughts?

- Cinder quite obviously didn't steal any of Raven's power when she pushed Raven up against the elevator door, as Raven seemed completely fine and was still able to open the vault door. Was the arm just draining her Aura? Does Cinder need the victim's Aura to be drained before they can steal soul? Any idea what was going on there?

- That sounds extra painful and would give credence to Cinder being dead-dead.

- Given she tried to steal the power from Vernal without breaking her aura first. I would say it's more likely the aura's protection needs to be inactive. Which you can get by depleting it (like she did to Amber) or by taking the person by surprise.

Alhazad2003 wrote: Even if she does survive the final chapter, she's in a no-win situation. Her Aura is broken so she can't create a portal to escape, so she'll have to fly out via her Maiden powers but then her big secret will be out. Good luck hiding it from Qrow and Ozpin then. And if she kills Yang then she'll be sentencing herself to death before long, for she would've killed the last bit of goodness within her. It'll all depend on whether she can actually raise her sword against her own flesh and blood.

Or she could fly out by bird form, which is also magic and does not require aura.

Knightmareace wrote: Raven actually seemed angry when Cinder implied she killed the last spring maiden.

I wouldn't put it past her but any ideas?

I have personally been crossing my fingers Raven will pull a Snape on us, minus the loyalty to Ozpin. PhantomHeartless5 wrote: Just saw the episode. Freaking awesome Maiden fight!

So that's the end of Cinder Fall. How ignominious. Though I'm not quite convinced she's dead yet. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if in the next episode, she thaws herself out, uses her Grimm arm to climb out and tries one last attempt to steal Raven's Spring Maiden power and the relic.

Also, R.I.P.. Vernal. A Grimm-Human Hybrid abomination Cinder clawing her way out could be the season's post credit stinger...