Board Thread:Speculation House/@comment-31953669-20180124124137/@comment-2001:8A0:D21E:E301:84B0:AE1E:49B1:C9FE-20180317032323

To be fair, Cinder not being back doesn't mean she necessarily died. Cinder could have  had no interest in showing herself to Raven and Yang, since it would mean an automatic death. Even with just Yang, she could have felt she was too debilitated to fight her. As for escaping the vault, I'm sure they could find a way. Sounds a bit weird Salem's faction wouldn't even bother to check Cinder since she was a maiden. Which means all they had to do was find the watch/create one or use someone would a semblance that creates portals. Also, no reason to believe the path to the vault cannot be destroyed by Maiden's powers.

Personally, I hope Cinder is dead and that they add new villains. But I do understand Cinder being a maiden and all would mean a huge step back for the villains. Even if Em gets the powers, she would still be nowhere near Cinder's level.