Talk:Haven's Fate/@comment-31726788-20180121194042/@comment-25936766-20180122213539

Honestly, I'm more surprised people didn't abandon the show before this.

I know RWBY's writing, and other things, has been a zig-zagging mess since Day 1, but even with all it's flaws, Volume 1 was, at the very least, enjoyable. It had shitty writing, terrible animation, terrible visuals, but it was entertaining at the least, and showed good potential.

Future Volumes improved in some ways and took steps back in some ways. Not just in visuals or animation or episode length, but in writing as well.

......But Volume 5, has been an overhyped mess. There are way too many things wrong with this Volume writing-wise, from wasted time to wasted potential and minimal improvements while taking too many steps back. But unlike previous Volumes, Vol.5 isn't even fun for the most part to make up for it.

The fights are not as good or well done, for the most part. There's no exciting songs to pump you up during them either, with 2 exceptions as of ep13 - not counting shorts - and of them only 1 is a new song. They left like 90% of the fights in this Volume to The Battle of Haven, but they aren't that good for the most part and it only makes the rest of the Volume a drag.

I've seen people express disappointment in Volume 5 for one reason or another (mostly "they are just standing around and talking"), but in any case I haven't seen real excitement since V5E2, aside from the dumb kids who treat RWBY as perfect and insult anyone who criticizes it.

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RT tried to advertise it as something far more grand and epic and exciting than it really was, which did not help things. I still remember reading about RWBY billboards in Akihabara to promote Volume 5.

If people abandon the show because of this Volume, I'll give them a hug. Maybe that way Miles and Kerry will realize they are fucking it up and will try to improve things for real.