Board Thread:Episode Discussion/@comment-25396609-20191130155818/@comment-35434444-20191204113215

Phantomlink959 wrote: I spend like 3/4 of my life concerned about other people.

Don't think anybody has called me effeminate for it. And you've just demonstrated exactly what is wrong with this picture.

Nobody is saying you have to be made of stone and only care about yourself to be a man. If Qrow spent this scene beating himself up over not being a good enough rolemodel to Ruby and the others in spite of their reassurances and resolved to do something about it under his own determination he would be acting like a man.

Men look after other people. That's what they do.

The reason this scene is emasculating for him is because he's over-eager to lean on Clover and Clover is over-eager to comfort him with soft words. This is the way women typically support each other.

The missing elements are dignity, responsibility, and self reliance. Not empathy. This is the big misapprehension that women make about men; that because they don't talk much they don't feel much.

https://youtu.be/QIAIk6secck?t=26

This would be like if All Might helped Deku pass his training by lifting the trash off the beach for him. It would make a mockery of Deku's attempts to change himself.

Clover is essentially robbing Qrow of his balls by absolving him of his weakness in a way that means he doesn't have to shoulder the problem himself. There's a great deal of sense to this, but it's not what a man needs to hear.

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