Board Thread:Episode Discussion/@comment-4141313-20181116204649/@comment-27640692-20181117193902

BlizzardDragon wrote: Man, it seems the RWBYQ v Ozma thing has divided the fanbase.

To people saying RWBYQ grabbed the Jerkass Ball or are being Unsympathetic, I leave this little post from Tumblr for you:

https://hermionevibritannia.tumblr.com/post/180209654862/why-doesnt-team-rwby-pity-ozpin-you-ask

The jist of it being:

Having a sad backstory doesn't excuse Ozpin from sacrificing literal lives for a goal he doesn't see as possible. So many people have died for his cause, when his cause isn't even more than a game of keep away. Ozma isn't a badly written character, he's well written. Someone trying to stop the shit that could happen but not being able to. It doesn't change the fact though that he has screwed up big time.

To those saying he's still bothered trying, has he? If anything, things are worse now thanks to his secret keeping. RWBYQ are highstrung, scared, and understandably frustrated. If you think they'd be understanding of Ozma immediantly or entirely sympathetic, you are nuts. To play devil's advocate, emotion doesn't always subscribe to reason (in fact, it's emotion nearly because of that, illogical.) I UNDERSTAND why RWBYQ is upset with Oz, it's a perfectly human reaction, and it's fine to criticize Oz's way of doing things as well. However, Oz had given up at one point entirely (he spent most of his earlier lives trying to get away from his destiny, or trying to forget), the fact that he's trying now is a big achievement in of itself, most people would've just kept drinking it away. If anything, I applaud Maria for being one of the only reasonable ones among the group, keeping everyone on task despite the fact that she literally JUST learned humanity had been wiped out before.

Raven was right in the vein that they're fighting a war they seemingly cannot win, she isn't right in the sense that she appears to have given up entirely, in fact she is actively adding to humanity's downfall by attacking places with her tribe, and dividing people further. The group dissension is understandable (though I don't particularly care for some of the righteous grand-standing), albeit its nothing more than a distraction.