Board Thread:Speculation House/@comment-24177652-20140316072117/@comment-67.170.114.195-20150212230133

1) Qrow and Yang/Ruby's father are different people, they were brother's

2) Cinder is Summer

In sacrifice (which is very, very obviously Cinder's song) one of the lines is "death is not always what it seems." another line involves the moon watching roses die(why is the moon repeatedly shown throughout the series) Also I think something like that of Dust an elysian tail happened, maybe why the super material is called dust, as blake is at the start of the series, reading a book about someone with two souls. It could also be something along the lines of Jekyll and Hyde. Another possibility is that they dueled, and whichever one died possesed(if Summer won) or imparted their soul(if Cinder won) on the other.

The rest of this is copied from an argument I won on youtube comment

 Ruby did recognize cinder when she saw her, Ruby's face was that of someone who knew the other person but not from where, and ruby didn't see her face in the first episode. also we can guess with accuracy that cinder has infused hereself with fire dust so her natural eye color could be silver. Also in Sacrifice (which is obviously cinder's song) one of the lines involves roses dying, as the only two characters connected to flowers are summer and ruby it seems suspicious to be in cinder's song. another line in that song was "death is never what it seems". in the song red like roses part II Summer says "don't waste your life in vain. she "died" while fighting monsters to protect people so how is that in vain, unless she turned into a monster herself. also multiple opponents have tried to use fatal attacks against team RWBY but cinder never did any sort of attack that would cause more than mild damage against Ruby, even when Ruby turned her head. Perhaps Summer is still fighting back against the cinder persona. also the book blaze is reading is about "a man with two souls" most likely foreshadowing, as Roosterteeth loves putting in tiny easy to miss details like this. now there are a multitude of possibilities stemming from this theory Summer has amnesia and found cinders around her causing her to choose the alias Summer was somehow resurrected through some sort of magic Cinder is a seperate persona controlling summer's body Cinder was Summer's fighting persona as she may have had mult personality disorder and took over during the fight once and for all Cinder is Summer's murderer and Summer somehow imparted herelf in cinder also it is never said that they found summer's body in fact the opposite is stated and Ruby hasn't seen Summer since she was a toddler 5 and below. stong memory cohesion comes at age 6 so Ruby would not remember her face clearly. also in sacrifice it sounds like cinder is talking to herself in "did the things you thought you should, all the things they said were good" also "born an angel sent from heaven, falls from grace are never elegant" It is very possible summer is rebelling as she learned a terrible secret and is using the alias cinder so her family stays unharmed