Board Thread:Administrative Requests/@comment-24573226-20170620150929/@comment-14909251-20170623052234

HazelQuill7445 wrote: Yeah, with consent being a pretty big deal to me, I looked into your "I never asked" bit. You had 17 days between your nomination, which clearly mentions making you staff, and your user rights being changed to turn it down. You were on the wiki every one of those days, as well as several consecutive days after the message to your wall congratulating you on your changed status. You may never have "asked" but you never turned it down when offered. No one even told me I was being nominated is the thing. I did notice that discussion a little after I got the message about being given the rollback privilege, but the only mention of "staff" was by a then non-staffer and since the nomination suggested I could be an admin one day I assumed that is what the person was talking about. The page was only called "user rights nominations" and made no mention of every last user right entailing a staff position (still doesn't). As I said already, the staff page didn't say it until well after I got the message.

ChishioKunrin wrote:

Grif: "Just wondering if any of the rollback had skypes so I could make a group with them and admins to make discussion more straightforward rather than having to play the telephone game with things :P"

Admittedly, he was not as clear as he should have been, but the implication was there, with him saying that the group would be rollbacks and admins. You say that you got the impression that it would be about making it easier to deal with disruptive editing that rollbacks deal with (and that is one of the things we do use it for). That sounds like the kind of group chat that only people with special privileges on this wiki would be in, don't you think?

DAWP: "Yeah, I saw that after I asked. Truth is, I do not think I have used the rollback function once since getting it, so it would not make a huge difference whether I was included or not in a Skype group."

This is what I mean when I say that you turned it down. You said that you didn't think it'd make a huge difference if you were included in the group, which implied that you did not have enough interest in the group chat to even make a Skype account and download Skype. Obviously, I did have a special privilege in that I had rollback privileges. Since rollback only technically gives a user the ability to more easily undo certain edits, I assumed the whole point was that if folks are dealing with disruptive edits they can relay this to others to rollback or block the accounts. Basically, something like a noticeboard to report vandals or other disruptive types. The concept wasn't explained in a way that would make clear the real purpose that it apparently serves.