Talk:Raven Branwen/@comment-61.68.181.79-20180424074847/@comment-24018437-20180424142845

I think the reason why Zuko's redemption arc was so popular is because, even when he was still an antagonist, there was always something sympathic about him. You wanted Zuko to find the light and redeem himself because you knew there was good in him. Of course, Zuko's backstory was also great and the way his redemption arc was handled was (in my opinion) also done really well.

Raven...well, she lacks several elements that made Zuko's story so strong. While Zuko was at least somewhat sympathic from the beginning, Raven had only one moment in the entire show so far where you could sympathize with her, and even then its more likely you feel satisfaction rather then sympathy, as she deserved Yang's speech. She lacks Zuko's sympathic side.

Another difference would be that Zuko was...lost. He was hurt, confused, humilated and outcasted, even by his own father for trivial things, not to mention he grew up with a sister that was better at everything. Ozai once stated that Azula was born lucky and that Zuko was lucky to have been born at all.

Raven...in this situation, I honestly think she's more similiar to Ozai or Azula then Zuko. She lacks Zuko's sympathic side and backstory, and while its clear that Zuko was desperate in his quest to reclaim his honor, Raven doesn't strike me that way. Like I said, from the very beginning, Zuko already had something sympathic and we understood and knew his motives. We saw him at his best and worst, saw him do terrible things, but also good things. While Zuko was build up to be a tragic antagonist and victim of cirmumstances who turned hero, the show pretty much portrayed Raven as a complete and utter bitch, and its very hard to sympathize with her when she hasn't offered much to be sympathic about.

So yeah, I'm also interested in how her redemption arc will be handled. I honestly don't think I'm lying when I say that Raven is probably one of the most despised characters of the fandom, and for good reasons. I'm interested in seeing how the writers will redeem such a character.