Board Thread:Speculation House/@comment-35941743-20190304195312/@comment-26018514-20190717170225

Megadracosaurus wrote: Cinder’s main motivation is gaining power and getting revenge. Not once did she even think or mention Mercury and Emerald. Even Mercury knows Cinder views them as pawns. Emerald is in denial, but Cinder has already shown how much she values them. Its most likely just her using them. But even if Cinder somehow genuinely cares about them, then its an abusive relationship at ‘best’. Based on everything we know, Cinder either views Emerald as a usefull pawn or someone she genuinely cares about yet has no problem abusing her. Its a lose-lose situation either way. …

Cinder isn’t very comperable to Vader... 1. I agree, much as I do agree with Thunder that pre V4/5ish I thought Emerald could redeem her, she's made it pretty clear by abandoning her subordinates to Salem's care that Cinder doesn't really care about them, she cared just enough to seduce/ensure loyalty, but otherwise they are on their own.

2. Agreed, the only real comparisons are being a second to the ultimate evil with inordinate levels of power... but Vader was born to that power, Cinder takes it from others.