Board Thread:Episode Discussion/@comment-34633327-20180105193053/@comment-5430952-20180108101342

KingFubuki92 wrote: Again though, keep in mind, we are only hearing Ozpin's part in it. Only Ozpin says it was a training mission and Hazel's sister. Hazel just said "she" was a child and wasn't ready. For all we know, "she" may not have died on a training mission and Ozpin only said that to get Oscar to focus, and "She" could have been Hazel's daughter.

We can't trust Ozpin's word on anything anymore. Everything that comes out of his mouth is a half truth. "Oscar has to give me control", no, he just prefers that, he can take control whenever he wants. "Qrow and Raven asked for this power", really? Considering the burden speech Vernal gave and assuming Raven has similar feelings, I doubt she asked for these powers. To trust his word would be the same as trusting the word of a politician. Ah, so Qrow was just covering for Ozpin back there, I get ya. Yeah, I can imagine he's covered for Ozpin on a lot of things. But if he realizes Ozpin deliberately kept quiet on Raven being the Spring Maiden, oh man Qrow will be furious.  I imagine the only ones who know the truth are Ozpin, Raven, and Lionheart. Possibly "Vernal" as well, since Raven trusts her the most of the whole tribe.

And on that note, I got a crazy idea on how the next episodes will go: Raven nails Cinder with a heavy magical attack, sending her flying. Seeing an opportunity, she uses her Maiden powers to restore "Vernal," gives her acolyte her mask, and tells her to escape. "Vernal" may hesitate, but she does so, taking the elevator back to the surface. Cinder mocks Raven for her foolishness, until she realizes the elevator is the only way out. She tries blasting it, but Raven parries it wth her own magic and the fight continues.

Once she reaches the surface, "Vernal" calls out to Lionheart, telling him the passage has been sealed. Lionheart thanks her, then throws her his pocket watch and tells her to escape, and hopefully they meet again one day. "Vernal" thanks him, and tells him that Raven thanks him for everything, before she disappears from sight.

When the other villains see this, they are incensed.

Mercury: Hey, what's the big idea, old man?!

Emerald: How is Cinder supposed to get out?

Lionheart [turns to them with a steely gaze]: Cinder's not getting out.

Emerald: What?

Lionheart: The plan has been enacted fully, and now that the key is gone the passage cannot be opened again, that underground sanctum will be her tomb.

Mercury: You bastard!

Emerald [drawing her weapons]: You'll pay for this, no one double-crosses Cinder and lives! [gets blindsided by Ruby] OW! What the-

Ruby: Sorry, you were wide open, I couldn't help it.

Yang: Where do you think you two are going? [cocks her gauntlets] We're not done with you yet.

Mercury: Argh, that's it, I'm through toying with you brats! And once we're done with them you're next old man.

Lionheart: Try if you like, but it won't save your mistress, her fate has been sealed.

So in effect, both Raven and Lionheart can earn some form of redemption before it's all over. Something like this anyway.