User blog comment:PerhapsTheOtherOne/Speculative Spitballing: Goliath/@comment-173.58.100.7-20150608180157/@comment-4010415-20150608194443

Not sure if Shadow was joking or not.

There were giant elephant monsters (forgot their name) being ridden by the enemy in Lord of the Rings, and Legolas and Gimly (Spelling??) were competing to see who could kill the most enemies. Legolas did what Surana said Ren would do, and Gimly told him it only counts as one.