Board Thread:Off Topic/@comment-25396609-20170505174118/@comment-25936766-20170531225113

HookshotHotshot wrote: 1) I've always seen her semblance as a one-time temporary boost to all her attacks... When does melanie slice a shell in half? can I get a rough time in the Yellow trailer? I just want to check for myself.



2) We're NOT talking about Huntsmen or Huntresses. We're talking about Grimm.

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3) I ended up using a Blast Parameter Calculator. I'm comparing the load to TNT (bacause Fire Dust isn't an option, surprisingly), and made the assumption that the Fire Dust rounds weighed the same as Shotgun Slugs.

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4) ...I'm such a nerd. This is what watching Game Theory on YouTube has done to me!

5) Anywho, the blast does tons more damage than the punch because it deals comparable PSI (assuming Yang's aura makes her stronger than Cain) but affects the whole body, delivering that force to every organ and blood vessel in the body.



6) At 10 PSI from an explosion, you're heart and lungs take serious damage. This is 300 times that. And remember, we're typically talking about Grimm here, beings without Aura.

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7) And lastly, Size =/= force? Really? Shall we compare, let's say, 1 kg of TNT to 100? To 1000? I'd hazard a guess that it does make quite a bit of difference based on size.

1) It's not temporary. More like Toggled. And Melanie cuts one in half roughly at the beginning of their "phase" in the Y-Trailer.

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2) No, we are talking about Hunters, at this point in the conversation. Because the argument I made was that Yang's punches are stronger than EC's explosions, and in a general sense that explosions are not necesarily stronger than a Hunter's punches.

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3) TNT is a good choice...........though it's hard to compare Fire Dust to a specific explosive material (though TNT is considered standard in explosive measurement), since it's literally Fire itself.

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4) Eww.

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5) Which means it's weaker.

The reason: While the amount of Force is 1 thing, another factor is how concentrated it is. Example: 3000N distributed over your entire front, or 2000N only in the chest. The latter one will be more painful and damaging within the area it affects, because the whole Kinetic Energy is focused on a single area.

Sure, in this case the explosion would hit all the organs and such with the force alone, but, it would be comparatively weaker than what a single punch could cause with at least somewhat-smaller force, but focused on a single area. The smaller the better.

6) Then the answer it's obvious: EC is not that strong. You did the math wrong.

If 10PSI is enough to cause serious damage, and a single EC explosion is 300 times that, Yang would literally be a walking nuke, nearly-unstoppable. Meanwhile, just by watching the show you can see that EC's explosions are not even half that strong, or half that damaging.

Especially if you consider the fact that she fires them point-blank, with every punch. Which means, based on what you told me, she would practically 1-shot if not downright kill almost anyone with every punch, because if the PSI of the explosion alone is severely damaging, now add the PSI of a punch.

If she doesn't kill or 1-shot someone, assuming the target has Aura, it would likely be blown to 0 anyway.

That's one thing you need to keep in mind: If the result would be too absurd based on what's been seen, it's a hint that something is off.

7) There are so many mistakes here, it's not even funny.

First: Weight=/=Size. Small things can be heavy. Big things can be light. Square/Cube Law dictates that "the bigger, the heavier", but pretty much only between 2 objects of the same or similar kinds.

Second: You are talking about amounts of TNT, not size of TNT. You're basically saying that 4 boxes are stronger than 1 because they are 4. At the same time, Kg refers to mass. Small things can have much mass (thus more weight), and big things can have less than one would expect (thus not be as heavy).

Third: If you pack more explosives, then sure, the explosion will be bigger. But I'm talking about the force behind the explosion in an individual basis.

What really matters with an explosion is the force delivered by the shockwave. Said shockwave is invisible to the naked eye in normal circumstances, but the blast is not. The flames and smoky cloud we see.

Thus if you see an explosion, the blast can be big but the force delivered and it's radius can be smaller than you'd think. The force in the shockwave is normally bigger than the blast one sees, though it's not necesarily big in radius.