Board Thread:Speculation House/@comment-14138255-20140801004849/@comment-96.254.157.84-20140802175443

Zolnir wrote: In comparison to Yang, Weiss is unbelievably childish and innocent.

I also doubt you actually understand how a 'shitty' childhood works. When you're forced to grow up and become independent faster than the average age, that's when you shed your innocence. Weiss lived a sheltered life where she heard her relatives being targetted and killed, and her form of hatred towards White Fang spawned mostly from her father not treating her well because he was too focused on his enemies.

Weiss almost never needed to make choices for herself. She studied for her family/dad/reputation, she wanted to be perfect for the Schnee, she was so reliant on her family that her view became distorted, and being sheltered only made it worse. She thinks she understands, but because she was never a player she doesn't actually understand the implications and consequences of things.

Kind of like how you are right now.

The entire point on White Trailer was to stress that Weiss Schnee has finally stood up for herself and taking the first steps towards really growing up as an adult. She only truly started her life when she decided to go to Beacon. Hence, she is incredibly lacking and ignorant - also known as innocence, although it is generally regarded as a positive term than the former - when it comes to making decisions and generally directing her own life, and her socializing skills before meeting RWBY can make a cow cry.

There are many examples that support this.

Zero, she exploded on Ruby over the tinest possible thing in the world. She doesn't know the limit of lecturing someone even though she's on the right, and was repaid the consequences in full when Ruby sneezed an explosion.

First, Weiss believes that there are 'turns' when in actual combat. Although she is correct that one partner should cooperate with each other, her understanding is completely off, not to mention that it's impossible to work with Ruby since they have little idea of each other's combat skills.

Second, Weiss believes that she's more qualified than Ruby in every way, and thus should be made leader instead. The fact is she cannot accept that she was topped by someone two years younger than her, and blew over Ruby in public.

Third, openly insulting people and calling racist comments, and again, not knowing the limits. She said it because she believes she's in the right and completely justified to call a Faunu a rapscallion, because some other Faunu in the White Fang hurt her family. It like accusing an old man for rape because another old man committed rape, and thus all old man must be rapist kind of stupid logic. Anyone who actually thought it through will realize that.

Fourth, let's talk about the card game. She allows Yang to completely dictate her turn and subsequently destroys her in one fell swoop. On her defense she had no idea what she's doing, but after a whole semester with Yang, that she actually believes the blonde will help her beat herself and let her win just like that is seriously naive.

Fifth, the argument she made that 'we are not ready, so we should just let the authorities handle all of it!' is because it is the 'correct' way to do things. Let me teach you a bit about life. If you don't take an initiative, no matter how stupid or genius it is, that's just being dependent and you'll eventually become a useless person.

Yes, Team RWBY's decision will definitely put themselves in great danger. They probably didn't even think it through, which is definitely a minus. But they made their decision not to just stand by and watch and do nothing, and even if they have not a clue how to proceed it is a start. That's how you grow up. That's how you become a productive adult.

Finally, Weiss is actively absorbing everything she can learn from her time at Beacon, precisely because she finally understood how childish, how ignorant (we call her innocent, but she must have thought herself ignorant - people are always harsh to themselves), and how naive she was. If she wants to help her father, if she truly wants to be a Schnee worthy of her name etc, she needs to grow up.

That's why our current Weiss Schnee is still an innocent and naive girl. She's growing, and she's learning fast, but in the end, she is still a child. I can literally feel my brain cells dying arguing with you. Let's just agree to disagree and move on.