Talk:Cardin Winchester/History/@comment-67.44.192.50-20151030005803/@comment-173.58.100.7-20151030031022

Okay, yeah. Even Loghain is an example. He fought to free Ferelden from Orlais, protected it, then betrayed his king at Ostagar, tried to get the Grey Wardens killed, and (at the cost of Alistair) can be recruited, eventually be forgiven, and redeem himself defeating the Archdemon.

I totally know what you mean.

- Surana