Board Thread:Speculation House/@comment-35941743-20190304195312/@comment-14909251-20190315235740

73.Anon.52 wrote: I think you're really overselling yourself on just how "friendship is magic" the show is...

If RT follows through on the "simple soul" trope, we already know Salem will die through co-operation, such a death actually makes Tyrian's survival possible and more probable than Cinder's as he worships Salem as a goddess, Cinder doesn't.

Yes Tyrian's a crazy psychopath, but Cinder's a loose-canon with Maiden powers, this leave's the former a threat to villages while the latter is a threat to Cities.

Watts seems to just want to do research he wants ethics be damned, but still isn't as big a threat as Cinder would be to humanity, and you literally named almost all the other villains who could survive and be left alive at the end, so why would Cinder need to live?

Keep in mind that in even in one of the biggest "villains to friends" series, Dragonball Z, there was still only like 5 villains once they got to the long game who lived through it... and many of those died at least once(Vegeta, Buu, Piccolo), and they were only able to leave them alive because while the threats were stronger, so was the Hero.

RWBY has no chance of entirely becoming more powerful than Cinder so long as she has maiden powers, Yang will likely inherit Raven's, but otherwise there are only 2 left to go around, and if they get them then the other country's would need her dead to be safe from her, so again, she would need a 100% heel-face turn... and that seems impossible even for Shonen standards, especially since such a perspective would likely result in her implants trying to kill her. It doesn't have to be a 100% as all it really needs is that she no longer wants to fight the heroes. Being good and chummy isn't what is required. All that is required is that Cinder gives up on her desire to be powerful and stops trying to get revenge. She doesn't have to "turn good" to do either of those things. Not sure why you think Tyrian's survival is at all plausible. He, far more than Cinder, is unlikely to stop being a threat. Even if he somehow abandons or gives up on Salem if that is what you are implying, his underlying nature doesn't seem likely to change. With Watts it currently doesn't matter as we have no real reason to care and he could just as well die as live without either outcome mattering. Cinder's underlying nature isn't very clear, but it definitely isn't the kind that suggests she will always be violent and murderous.