Board Thread:Episode Discussion/@comment-14138255-20180123171649/@comment-26018514-20180128001025

2001:8A0:D21C:B401:89BD:3658:6593:6CF2 wrote: 73.Anon.52 wrote: I don't(particularly want "red eyes" to be a thing), I'm just saying it is entirely possible other, lesser, magic abilities are also being passed down through lineages Ozpin has lost track of that ultimately may or may not enter into the narrative... ...

I'm not saying this should happen, just that it could(and that possibilities such as these tend to make the story interesting even if left unexplored). There is still no reason to believe red eyes means any sort of magic...Why add something just because? That's just bad writing.

73.Anon.52 wrote:

I mean, if he saw them as useful, don't you think he would've trusted them to allies centuries ago? OR, that more likely he had something like beastboy transformation to start with and parsed it out over the centuries while keeping Corvus transformations to himself?

And I don't even get what point you're trying to make.

I think his magic is unspecific. Meaning he can do whatever the hell he wants at any point, albeit with some limitations. You talked like he had a collection of powers and just decided to distribute them. Yes, he has probably given powers to somebody else, but the Maidens are the most powerful ones, so maybe that's why their powers are transmitted and others are not.

Furthermore, those powers aren't transmitted via inheritance per se, they are via thoughts or random, so Em's family history is irrelevant. Not to mention that neither Yang or her have shown any sort of magic (and I really hope they don't besides Maidens or birds - I am ok with Qrow dying).

If Raven or Qrow died, would someone else inherit those powers? Even if that's true, why would eye color be affected? The Maidens' eye color differ from Maiden to Maiden even if of the same thing: Amber's brown eyes, Cinder's amber ones.

Finally, you suggested Ozpin forgot he gave those powers.

1) Sometimes, we "forget" things but them they are remembered by a trigger. If Ozpin's magic related to red eyes, then those would be a trigger and would remind him.

2) It would mean Ozpin is even more incompetent than I already think he is. I barely have any respect for the guy as a person who is in charge of the fate of the world - there are teenagers who would probably be better at handling it than him - but to lose track of giving magic... wth!? For a person whose motto is "we can't let the world know there's magic otherwise chaos", one would think keeping track of who has magic and can reveal to the world the existence of it would be pretty damn important. 1. CONTEXT- everything I've been talking about is under the conceit that "red eyes" don't have to do shit(nadda, nothing, Zero), likewise that Ozpin doesn't go blabbing about other people's magic to a bunch of kids who'll never see it if he doesn't think it matters... I'd certainly never tell a group of soldiers the capabilities of a nuclear warhead in a briefing if I were asking them to breach a door in a country which has never seen nor possessed any of the technology unless I had prior indication it would matter, nor would I say "O shit that enemy can be a gecko!" if the enemy has no apparent clue either.

2. WORLD BUILDING- It's a thing, doesn't have shit to do with your story, not every Tom, Dick, or Harry is shoved into a narrative just because they exist in the world of the story, even if they are more important to the world's history than your main characters, likewise you don't need every species, you don't exactly meet Snow leopards on the Serengeti or Elephants in the Alps, so why would magic be any different? I'd rather not see every form of magic in the world used by our protagonists or villains, as it indicates a larger, more realistic setting.

3. His magic IS unspecific... but he clearly states that once he gives magic, he can no longer do what that magic allowed him to do, which indicates that any magic he has given was something he was once able to do... now why would he have had power over all the elements, yet only the ability to transform into one animal? and why on earth would he wait till now to give away a transformation ability if that was his only one?

4. I was suggesting he forgot the specifics when asked earlier... far before he saw Emerald, and that natural red eyes are enough of a thing he doesn't immediately think of his old magic when he sees someone with them who isn't using magic.